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Originally Posted by FPV GTHO
Ive heard DSG/DCT transmissions will still roll back on a hill though.
For my mind the gearbox itself is still a manual (no platetary gears, no torque converter) but automised and refined more than youre typical automated manuals such as those BMW and Ferrari developed. I'd call it an auto for licensing sake though.
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That is true but most modern DSG's have a hill start feature that will hold the brake for a couple of seconds once you lift your foot off the brake until the accelerator is pushed. Many new manuals have this feature as well.
An auto will roll back on a hill if it is steep enough to overcome the torque convertor. That is why they teach hill starts in both manuals and autos, it has become a bit of a lost art using the handbrake to complete a proper hill start.
As for the license restriction, if you are in one state driving on the license of another state, you still have the restriction of the state in which you hold the license.
To me the identification of an auto or manual box is the presence of a clutch. If it has a clutch it is a manual, if it does not and it has the function to swap gears automatically (which all DSG's do) it is an auto even if it does not have a traditional torque convertor.
Lets face it, there is no difference in the way I can operate my ZF 6 speed compared to a DSG, both have auto and manual modes. To say the DSG is a manual because you can select a gear is wrong, I can select a gear in my ZF 6 speed so does that make it a manual too? I could also select 1st in my 1968 2 speed powerglide in my old HK, does that make it a manual too?