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Originally Posted by J Arthur Rank
Thanks tichman, I appreciate the considered reply mate and we will have to agree to disagree as the saying goes. That's fine in my book though and I hope it is in your's too.
I would argue that my mate is not so much anti Xi as he is anti ccp and most of what they stand for and enforce. The same goes for the chaps on youtube, all three of which lived in China for years, learnt the language and can speak and read it. I don't know them but from watching many hours of their stuff, it's clear they love the place and the people and are still in regular contact with a lot of those same people they met. That seems to me a pretty valid source of info as to what the sentiment is like there.
The economics or Xi's election status and China's belt and road stuff are another topic so it's probably best to leave that out of this one I think. I wasn't alluding to any of that though and don't think it's the main reason people are "revolting" currently.
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Cheers Arthur, totally agree to disagree with no hard feelings. I am sure your contacts feel the way they do as they are there experiencing things for themselves and they (just like we all do) will perceive things in a personal way.
All I would hope for is for everyone to remember there is 2 or more sides to every story and yep, whilst the CCP controls a lot of what is put out in the media in China/HK, so too is our media controlled, edited, redacted, censored or just plain omitted as well and if we are unaware of that control then we do not recognise it is happening.
The German soccer team was all over the news recently prior to their game against Japan on the 24th with their hands over mouths protest against their captain not being allowed to wear a one love arm band or such.
Odd then that I have yet to see the following story in our media here... perhaps it was too ironic for some to be shown here. Perhaps yet another example of double standards...
On Sunday 28th, some football fans in Qatar played the same protest at Germany during their match against Spain by covering their mouths and waving posters of World Cup winning German star Mesut Ozil.
Ozil retired from international football following Germany’s early exit from the Russia 2018 World Cup, accusing the national media of making him a scapegoat and suggesting he was subjected to racism due to his Turkish roots – including from the German football federation (DFB).
Fans in Qatar made their message clear, in what were widely seen as accusations of hypocrisy directed towards German football figures regarding their protests and supposedly contradictory treatment of Ozil.