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Originally Posted by FTE217
People are aware cops are around, distance cameras, cameras in so many places sure there is still the rabbits who test the boundaries but nothing like in the past.
That’s Gov schemes, double demerits weekends might I add.
IF you don’t think that has contributed to facilities and or accidents to a % let me know otherwise.
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Penalties are massive too - its not just 'driving offences' anymore they're all summary offences now.
The fines can be nothing really (depends on the magistrate) but the ramifications of criminal convictions are wide-reaching, you don't have discrimination protection against being discriminated against in this area in some states, like you with discrimination protection on race/identity/gender/equal opportunity. The protections available now only partially exist in VIC since 2021/2022 with some new at the time legislation - and it still doesn't introduce discrimination protection, it just hides someones ability to see your conviction depending on how the chips fall in court.
Check out this one for 25 over:
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Fines for excessive speed, drug and alcohol offences are different from other fines – they are more serious.
They may result in:
driver licence cancellation or suspension
a conviction.
A conviction will be recorded 28 days from the Infringement Notice issue date on your fine, unless you object. If you were not responsible for the offence, you should act before that date. If you don't act, the offence will appear on your criminal record.
Excessive speed
You will be issued with an excessive speeding fine if you are caught driving 25km/h or more above the speed limit or driving at 130km/h or more.
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Its the only criminal conviction you can score without even needing to set foot in court, and it applies once you pay your fine - this is the sort of thing that will catch you out on international travel too and cause dramas, or show up on criminal record checks on job interview process.
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Dangerous Driving at Speed
In Victoria, dangerous driving at speed carries a maximum penalty of 2 years’ imprisonment or a fine of 240 penalty units. If the vehicle was driven at a speed of 45 kilometres per hour or more in excess of the speed limit, the court must also disqualify the driver for a minimum period of 12 months. If the vehicle was not driven at a speed of 45 kilometres per hour or more in excess of the speed limit, the court must disqualify the driver for a minimum period of 6 months.
What Actions Might Constitute Dangerous Driving At Speed?
The following actions can form the basis of a charge of dangerous driving at speed in Victoria:
Driving at 70km/h in a 40km/h school zone;
Driving at 150km/h on a 110 km/h highway;
Driving at 100km/h in a residential area which causes a collision.
Which Court Will Hear Your Matter?
Dangerous Driving at Speed is a summary offence and will be heard in the Magistrates’ Court of Victoria.
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If you oldies did what you did in your youth now, you'd be hit with 2 hoon strikes straight up (exceed 70+ over limit), paying 3 months worth of impound fees and funding lawyers.
The fine was only $850 but it cost me about $4000+ by the time you take into account paying impound fees, looking nice for court and paying lawyers,
If you take into account lost income on the driving ban if you relied on your car to get to work like most people do, than that figure raises to around $70,000.
I'm open about it because I want others to understand the potential ramifications, its not just the potential for accident its the administration side that you don't expect - but I understand if current Franco said this to past Franco, I'd have told myself to GAGF
Certainly changed my attitude behind the wheel, thats for sure.