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Originally Posted by Cobra

The body and the intorior were all new for the VY. Well most of the body anyway...

But I can't see how the Orion will cost anywhere near 800 million. Not that I know anything about running a Car manufacturer, but in relative terms, most of the mechanical R&D would have been done on the BA? Only improvements from from here on in.

The front and rear of the body were new for the VY. The whole middle section was carryover VT-VX (with the exception of the mirrors). As for the interior, VY picked up a completely new dash but the doortrims were still the old VT-VX shape. The dash also used a different type of plastic to the old one, which meant on the VY, the combination of new dash with old doortrims created a huge amount of inconsistency to the feel of the plastics.

As for Orion, it will be a brand new car, not a facelift of the BF. The body will be completely different, as will the interior. The BA was simply a facelift for the AU, but a far more extreme one than the VX to VY facelift. The BA/BF still use the AU doors, but just about everything else changed. This includes the entire interior which included new doortrims, unlike Commodore. The fact is, the a 2006 BF Falcon is still based on the AU that came out in 1998, just like the 2006 VZ Commodore still dates back to a 1997 VT. The Orion will finally get rid of the AU doors, just like the VE gets rid of the entire VT midsection. That's the scenario.