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Old 25-11-2008, 03:19 PM   #1
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A NEW stealth speed camera was destroyed by angry road users while it was being tested.

The camera, which has the potential to reap millions of dollars for the State Government, has been installed on Maroondah Highway, Croydon, and is set off by laser sensors installed in roadside gutters only metres away.

It is promoted as being more accurate than other fixed speed cameras operating throughout the state. A single camera can picture any car travelling in one of three lanes, with two lasers gauging a car's lane and speed.

The Herald Sun has learned the camera was set up about three months ago, but was defaced and then destroyed by angry road users before it could be tested.

On November 5, youths spray-painted the camera, resulting in another camera being installed to catch vandals. Ten days later, three motorists tied a chain around the camera and ripped it from its base with their white Subaru station wagon.

Testing has now been delayed until it is repaired.
Nice going to all involved.

Raises the question though, if this one is so much accurate than the others, then how inaccurate are the safety cameras getting around the state.

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Old 25-11-2008, 03:27 PM   #2
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I noticed a strange looking contraption on the side of the road there the other day, at least that explains what it is.
Full points to the "youths" and subaru driver.
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Why is Criminal Damage nice going?

All this does is give the media scare campaigners more ammunition.
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Old 25-11-2008, 03:53 PM   #4
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Why is Criminal Damage nice going?
Don't get me wrong, when the Victorian Government puts resources into road safety, as opposed to road revenue raising, then I will be the first to stand up and congratulate. That means setting up these cameras in places with a history of accidents, not going around under the cover of darkness and putting them on roads which they are really not needed.

I live in the area, and Maroondah Highway is a great piece of road. Three lanes, great surface, service lane, big median strip and if that location is where I think it is, the road is pretty much straight as a die for more than 1 km. If the Government can identify that this road is a blackspot, then sure put cameras on each and every lane. But it has not got a history of accidents, bad or otherwise. Of all the places in this city that would require cameras as a safety measure (after all, these cameras are all about safety, are they not?) this location wouldn't even be on the radar.
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Old 25-11-2008, 03:29 PM   #5
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Does anyone remember the speed camera that got shot?? It was down my way in Werribee (Melbourne suburb)

It was located on a bridge overpass on the main freeway, if I remember correct it was either about to get turned on or had been just turned on.

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Old 27-11-2008, 11:04 AM   #6
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Does anyone remember the speed camera that got shot?? It was down my way in Werribee (Melbourne suburb)

It was located on a bridge overpass on the main freeway, if I remember correct it was either about to get turned on or had been just turned on.

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Happened at the Altona (Grieve Parade overpass) camera site, heading westbound.

The camera in Box Hill North at Eastern Freeway was also shot at.

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To the people that did it. Complete idiots. And it just goes to show the utter disrespect that people have these days.

If you have that much of a problem with speed cameras, etc. Then don’t bloody speed. Simple as that. And if you are up in the air over revenue raising, once again, no speeding = no contributing to revenue raising.
Totally uncalled for going to those kind of extremes.
You don't understand that cameras are notoriously unreliable and cannot be trusted.

There's currently some noise about faulty cameras on the newly opened Eastlink Tollway.
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To the people that did it. Complete idiots. And it just goes to show the utter disrespect that people have these days.

If you have that much of a problem with speed cameras, etc. Then don’t bloody speed. Simple as that. And if you are up in the air over revenue raising, once again, no speeding = no contributing to revenue raising.
Totally uncalled for going to those kind of extremes.
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warning to all: Let's not have this fizzle out into a 'who's got higher moral standard that the other' thread where we argue about how camera's are purely revenue raisers. Keep it civilised.
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http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sto...2-2862,00.html



Nice going to all involved.

Raises the question though, if this one is so much accurate than the others, then how inaccurate are the safety cameras getting around the state.
Good question, apparently they turned the cameras off on the West Gate bridge due to movement in the bridge causing inaccuracies in the speed detected. Given that the tolerance have been reduced, how many people have received a ticket for supposedly going 4 k's over when in fact they were below the limit?
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I've always wanted to carry around plastic bags in my car and tie them on to every speed camera I see. This way there's no violence or property damage...

Or place huge signs 400m before a speed camera, warning drivers of it's existance.

Speed cameras in my area are ALWAYS well hidden and DO NOT act as a deterent to speeding.
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Or place huge signs 400m before a speed camera, warning drivers of it's existance.
And because these cameras are always set up in blackspots, where there always is a long history of accidents, you shouldn't get any complaints from those floating around Spring Street.
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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
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The had to put another camera up to photo who destroys it............

Well that didnt work either - cant even get that right............lol

Should of known better and not tested it in Croydon
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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
Or apparently read the signs:


http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety...merasites.html
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Old 25-11-2008, 07:18 PM   #15
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Gee ,if only we had that in WA, We will probably get after you have passed the speed camera. By the way, in WA , the speed camera sign is usually hidden in bushes as well.
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Gee ,if only we had that in WA, We will probably get after you have passed the speed camera. By the way, in WA , the speed camera sign is usually hidden in bushes as well.
Too true, but at least we have the advantage that we can still use radar detectors in WA.

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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
Or move to a place where there is no speed cameras, and unleaded costs 45c per litre :-)
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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
That could now be the case when they install these more accurate speed cameras..
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Old 25-11-2008, 09:07 PM   #19
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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
I seems a fella in a subbie found another way.

I hate speed camera's and never been fined from one. Clearly there a cash grab.
But destroying one only costs us the taxpayers more money
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The only way to beat speed cameras is not to speed.

Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders.
The only way to beat STD's is by not having sex.
Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders and stop having sex.

The only wat to beat being killed in an airplane crash is not to travel in a plane.
Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders and stop flying.

The only way to beat being killed on the roads is to stay away from the roads.
Simple solution. Place responsibility on your own shoulders and stay off the road.

As you can see, by following "uranium_death" simple rule, you can "place responsibility on your own shoulders" and avoid all the terrible things in life...

Isn't his suggestion a clever solution?
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It is promoted as being more accurate than other fixed speed cameras operating throughout the state. A single camera can picture any car travelling in one of three lanes, with two lasers gauging a car's lane and speed.

So what are they saying? That the current cameras arent accurate and may detect you speeding when infact your not?
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If speed camera's save lives and do not raise revenue, how come speeding fines are raised up way outside the normal cpi ?

and if the notion that raising the fine saves lives other than raises revenue, surley they could work out the % increase in the fine to stop all road carnage. ?

sorry but to me many speed camera's focus on the struggling mums,dads and kids on the way to work and home forr a few K's over here and there.
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One thing that puzzles me, They are bringing in a National Standard (or have introduced) for Heavy Vehicle licences, Forklift /Crane Tickets are all now to National Standard.Why do we not have a National Standard for police speed detection practices & equipment? I believe hand held radars are banned on the East Coast? (NSW) They are used with glee in WA!! In WA the speed camera warning sign is placed on the verge, behind trees, in amoungst the gardens, AFTER you have passed it? Last time I was in NSW the sign was placed before the radar? I am all for reducing the road toll in accident blackspots, but to me getting booked @ 3 am on the Hume Highway, for 5 k's over the limit in a (100kmp/h) speed zone, seems some what agressive by the boys in blue!!! I would hate to be an intra state truck driver!!! This is not a cop bashing rant either, but I think a National Standard is warranted & needed!!!
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Hand helds are still used in NSW. However in NSW all fixed speed cameras are signposted. Some 2-3 times.
Only handhelds in NSW are LIDAR, not radar.

All Fixed cameras are signposted 3 times.
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NSW has had this for ages
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Even though it has already been answered, I'll answer again. NSW.


Even ACT has "most" speed cameras signposted 3 times with NSW spec signs. I believe only the red light/speed cameras are still using ACT spec signs.
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Reinforcements for the cameras are alright team rally and ready their keyboards...
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Hand helds are still used in NSW. However in NSW all fixed speed cameras are signposted. Some 2-3 times.
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