Twin Terror Attacks - Norway

[grandpa_spec_F6]

Poor buggers, the place looks like an absolute mess.

TWIN bomb and shooting attacks in Norway have left at least 17 dead as a blast tore through government buildings and a gunman opened fire at a youth meeting of the ruling party.

* Gunman dressed as cop opens fire on youth camp outside Oslo
* Ten reportedly dead. Reports of at least 20. Fears explosives still at camp
* Gunman arrested, reportedly after being shot and injured
* Earlier a bomb detonated outside PM's office, near newspaper office
* Seven confirmed dead, dozens injured, reports some still trapped inside

http://www.news.com.au/world/twin-at...-1226100157179



Youth Camp:

[chrisfpv]

I'll never understand what goes through peoples heads to do things like this, never. Such a shame.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

I'll never understand what goes through peoples heads to do things like this, never. Such a shame.

You and me both

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

I'll never understand what goes through peoples heads to do things like this, never. Such a shame.

Sick $%*ks they are..... the chap they caught deserves a slow and painfull death in the main square.

I wonder if he will be found "insane"........

[creative]

been chatting to my mate in oslo and he seems to think its political.

The place they bombed wasnt the busiest area, everyones on holiday and its off season. He seems to think its been a scare tactic by a political party and to get minimal casualties.


the shooting though.... not sure on that one but a norweigan national has been arrested already, so the news says

[|Nate]

An Islamic political party?
Cause the killings of how ever many died in the bombing is no justification for bloody politics, if it really was that then I just don't know what to think.

[Ford_The_Win]

Probably down to an Islamic group, Norway has a relatively high proportion of Islamic immigrants, as does the rest of Scandinavia. It's a shame this happened because Norwegians are quirky but otherwise peaceful people that don't start trouble.

[Bad Bird]

Originally Posted by Ford_The_Win

Probably down to an Islamic group,

Nope, he was a Christian.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Bad Bird

Nope, he was a Christian.

Oh but christians are always the good guys... oh wait... they do.
One just needs to read the bible.

Apparently he will "reveal" his motives soon and I have sneaky suspicion as to what he will say.

[Pis-ton broke]

my condolanses to the victims families and friends.

[creative]

Originally Posted by zxctive

An Islamic political party?
Cause the killings of how ever many died in the bombing is no justification for bloody politics, if it really was that then I just don't know what to think.

I never said an islamic political party....


unfortunately we dont know yet, who is to blame. Could be an aussie for all we know.

[grandpa_spec_F6]

I've tried to get a hold of our friend in Norway however as of yet we haven't heard anything back.

From what I've heard it's a political attack.

[Ralliart]

this really annoys me to bit I'm half Norwegian i cried when i saw this on the news this morning, i can't believe this has happen to my home country

[Jim Goose]

yes straight away start blaming the usual suspects folks...
funny in one report i read it was linked to right wing extremist group i.e. political....

but hey lets all keep thinking that every single terrorist bomb is linked to al quaida.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

but hey lets all keep thinking that every single terrorist bomb is linked to al quaida.

wasn't oklahoma and the sniper attacks a few years ago by al quaida
it couldn't have been a disillusioned local that could have done it . . . . could it
what about the bushrangers in early australia - i may have read somewhere on the net they were muslims too - so it must be right

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by gtxb67

wasn't oklahoma and the sniper attacks a few years ago by al quaida
it couldn't have been a disillusioned local that could have done it . . . . could it
what about the bushrangers in early australia - i may have read somewhere on the net they were muslims too - so it must be right

LOL.... Well, some of them did have fierce beards!

In all seriousness, no religion (if any) has been linked I think.

[gtxb67]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

In all seriousness, no religion (if any) has been linked I think.

probably true, but joe public has already started accusing

[Jim Goose]

A gunman, dressed as a policeman, had taken a boat to where 560 members of the Labour Youth movement, aged between 15 and 25, were holding a summer camp.

"The person identified himself as a policeman," said one witness. "He said it was for a routine check regarding the terrorist attack in Oslo."

Blond, more than six feet tall and speaking fluent Norwegian, the "policeman" did not raise any suspicions as he arrived on Utoya

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/it-was-l...#ixzz1StOMqFUT

Blonde and tall... no doubt with blue eyes.... Yes sounds like islam to me

[fmc351]

Just as a heads up, you dont have to be dark to be Muslim. Not saying he was, and apparently he is closer to neo nazi or at least some form of nationalist. But just pointing out not all Muslims look like the 'traditional' muslim.


On topic, the mind boggles. Senseless and tragic waste of life, and the kids or youths as mentioned were targeted for the dumbest of reasons. Half the kids were probably just there for the camp itself and less for the political stuff the camp is named after. Apparently the camp is a Labour (political, not physical work) camp.

Apparently this is him

[Jim Goose]

Revised death toll now 87..... and the gunman is the apparent bomber?

'A madman's work': 87 dead in Norway attacks
July 23, 2011 - 1:15PM
Norway terror: the work of one man?

The man arrested following a shooting and bomb blast in Norway is now suspected of carrying out both attacks single-handedly.


A home-grown terrorist set off an explosion that ripped open buildings in the heart of Norway's government, and then went to a summer camp dressed as a police officer and gunned down youths as they ran and even swam for their lives.

Police say at least 80 people were killed in the shooting spree at the youth camp on the island of Utoeya where hundreds of youth were attending an event organised by the youth wing of Prime Minister Jens Stoltenberg's Labour Party.

Police director Oystein Maeland said police had discovered many more victims after initially reporting the death toll at 10.


Meanwhile, the Oslo blast, in which at least seven people were killed, left a square covered in twisted metal, shattered glass and documents expelled from surrounding buildings in a dust-fogged scene that reminded one visitor from New York of September 11.

Norway’s national broadcaster, NRK, has named the suspect in the attacks as Anders Behring Breivik.
The alleged Norway shooter named locally as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik

The alleged Norway shooter named locally as 32-year-old Anders Behring Breivik

NRK and other Norwegian media have also posted pictures of the blond and blue-eyed Norwegian.

According to the TV2 channel, Breivik has links to right-wing extremists and possessed two weapons registered in his name.

A police official said the 32-year-old, who was arrested at the camp on Utoeya island, appears to have acted alone in both attacks, and that "it seems like that this is not linked to any international terrorist organisations at all".

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because that information had not been officially released by Norway's police.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/a-madman...#ixzz1StpYNHmT

[Franco Cozzo]

Waiting for the "QUICK BAN ALL FIREARMS! SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!?" brigade to reply.

Nasty incident, I want to know his motives.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Waiting for the "QUICK BAN ALL FIREARMS! SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN?!?!?!?" brigade to reply.

Nasty incident, I want to know his motives.

Well if listen to the reports... he is a right wing christian fundementalist.
and he gone on about being anti-marxist, anti-intergration, anti-muslim on his web pages. Has a thing for the Knights Templer...

A rambling 1,500-page tract apparently written by Behring Breivik has surfaced on the internet. It says he has been preparing the operation since at least late 2009.

"I will be labelled as the biggest [Nazi-]monster ever witnessed since WWII," the text's author writes, while discussing the preparation of his "martyrdom operation".

The internet document is part diary, part bomb-making manual and part political rant in which Behring Breivik details his anti-Islamic beliefs, attacks on Marxism and his initiation as a Knight Templar.

One entry titled "Autumn 2009 - Phase Shift" explains how he set up front mining and farming businesses to prepare the attacks.

"The reasoning for this decision is to create a credible cover in case I am arrested in regards to the purchase and smuggling of explosives or components to explosives - fertiliser," the tract says.

A summary of of the 1,500-page manifesto was also posted on YouTube, but was removed late on Saturday for not conforming to the website's rules.

Oslo police could not immediately comment on whether Behring Breiving was behind the 12-minute clip which shows Behring Breiving in three photographs, including one where he aims an assault rifle and another where he is seen wearing a gas mask and what looks like a protective suit.

The video was put on YouTube on the same day as the twin attacks and describes Islam as "the main genocidal ideology".

"Before beginning our Crusade, we must do our duty by decimating cultural Marxism," reads one of the texts that appear in the video.

Posted by user BerwickAndrew, the film is in four chapters: The Rise of Cultural Marxism, Islamic Colonialism, Hope and Renewal.

Anti-fascist monitors meanwhile said Behring Breivik was also a member of a Swedish neo-Nazi internet forum named Nordisk, which hosts discussions ranging from white power music to political strategies to crush democracy.

Its the usual rambling of someone brainwashed into believing God is on his side....

[XESP351]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Well if listen to the reports... he is a right wing christian fundementalist.
and he gone on about being anti-marxist, anti-intergration, anti-muslim on his web pages. Has a thing for the Knights Templer...





Its the usual rambling of someone brainwashed into believing God is on his side....

***** you speak some rubbish (highlighted). The guy was a freak and an extremist, are you now painting everyone who believes in God with the same brush??

Threads get locked because of tools like you.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Well if listen to the reports... he is a right wing christian fundementalist.

Why 80 something kids on some island camp? The camp was to do with some political party, but I doubt the kids where there for the party, probably just the camping part. I did Environmental Science in year 11 for the phillip island camp

Government building, well yeah you could see why someone would do that.

[Jim Goose]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Why 80 something kids on some island camp? The camp was to do with some political party, but I doubt the kids where there for the party, probably just the camping part.

Government building, well yeah you could see why someone would do that.

Why are you asking me?

If you read the news reports... youll put it together why he killed all those people.

His beef isnt just with the government...

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Why are you asking me?

Why not?

It just wasn't directed to you but I'm after everyone elses opinion

[Jim Goose]

Funny isnt it... you can bash islam on here... but say a bad thing about extreme ring wing christian fundimenalist who massacred 90 people and someone jumps to the nutters defence?

And yes... he believes god is on his side... just like other "religious" groups who kill in the name of god. Sorry if the truth offends.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Funny isnt it... you can bash islam on here... but say a bad thing about extreme ring wing christian fundimenalist who massacred 90 people and someone jumps to the nutters defence?

And yes... he believes god is on his side... just like other "religious" groups who kill in the name of god. Sorry if the truth offends.

no offense jim, but its the way you worded it before that did tend to tar everyone that believed in God with the same brush. i don't think for a second XESP351 was defending or sticking up for the nutter that did these attacks.

for what its worth, i believe in God but i'm not about to pick up a weapon and go on some sort of crusade in the name of religion.

[Jim Goose]

Behring Breivik's lawyer says he has claimed responsibility for the attacks and a rambling 1,500-page tract apparently written by the 32-year-old has surfaced on the internet. It says he has been preparing the operation since at least late 2009.

The internet document is part diary, part bomb-making manual and part political rant in which Behring Breivik details his anti-Islamic beliefs, attacks on Marxism and his initiation as a Knight Templar.

This is the picture being painted of him... which if true... will show that he seems himself a "christian soldier" fearful of global take over of islam blah blah blah.....

[Jim Goose]

It wasnt meant to be a comment on everyone who believes in god.... but meant to be about people who use religious beliefs to justify killing people.
Doing gods work... having god on his side. This is what a lot of "extremists" believe isnt it?