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This appeared at work today.
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Ive got a gazoo but it dont look like that. wont sound like it either I bet.
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Peter Car
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I'm not sure how to take the BMW straight 6 in it. I would have like to have seen a modern version of the 2JZ.
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Being one of the biggest automakers, they should have been able to find a few bob for one... Or borrow a Barra turbo! Ed ![]()
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Pretty disappointing really. Toyota has the means and the knowhow to make a hot and spicy in-line six, yet they grow lazy and use a BMW engine, sporting a very low performance per dollar factor. Guess it will be a bigger brother to the 86, which is also a half hearted effort, sporting a Subaru n/a engine...
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I for one will be watching with interest- if the price is right and the handling is exceptional-and not over the top with stupid aero foils and stripes- may roll for one in 3 years - be a nice knife to go in the rack with the FGX XR8- musclecar and sportscar.
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the old supra was good too
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either way I don't think Toyota Plans on making too many of these, so its not worth the development. hence the BMW donk. even with the sales of the GT86 they partnered with Subaru for the engine.
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Fair comment regarding development costs and the use of the BMW engine, but growing up with a mechanic as a father, there were probably three straight six engines that I remember as being extremely smooth, and for my limited knowledge both then and now ![]() They were the Mercedes Benz, BMW, and Toyota. The six in my Aunt's Toyota Crown was so smooth and quiet; and although probably down on power compared to the others, certainly remains burnt into my braincells as a standout. Also not forgetting the Nissan 6 that I discovered later on in my growing years. I love my Fords, don't get me wrong, and we had a wonderfully torquey and smooth 300 cu in donk in our family transport at the time, that also impressed me, but didn't quite have that finesse. Not until our modern day Barra at least. Hence my comment! I'm sure Toyota would find a home in their line-up outside of the Supra for a new modern straight six, but I guess I can dream of the old days, can't I? Ed ![]()
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Still awaiting the Road Car, though it's a shame it won't get the 500+ hp it deserves in the 21st Century
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The rumour of 250kw just doesn't really cut it these days. The older Supra's were "206 kw", as was the Japanese voluntary power limit, but they made much more in reality.
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New Supra will be quite lightweight with power to weight around 170kW per tonne (XR6T is 157kW/tonne) - so it won't be slow. Rigid body and 50/50 weight distribution F/R , short wheelbase - they designed it as a sports car and not a muscle car.
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They should have put the engine from the M2 in it if they were using a BMW power-plant. I'm sure it would have been a better response if they had have put a 3.0 turbocharged straight 6 in it from the M cars.
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Popped in at work today
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BMW straight 6 in a Toyota???
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Looks good
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Looks like a lot more BMW in it then just the motor.
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crash repairer will have palpitations from his blow hole
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What has been seen cannot be unseen..........that thing is downright hideous
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The side profile looks good. The front and rear not so much.
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https://www.bmwblog.com/2019/01/14/p...-toyota-supra/
Here you go, photo comparison with the Z4 from various angles Cheers, |
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Interesting video about the tech specs of the Toyota Supra's new engine the B58 (BMW engine)...
2020 Toyota Supra Engine - Detailed Review Of The 2JZ Successor Some of the B58 specs: - 3.0L Straight 6 turbo charged - Direct fuel injection - Closed deck block - Electric Arc Wire spray on the cylinder walls (0.3mm thickness) - BMW's Vanos (variable valve timing) - BMW's Valvetronic (variable valve lift) - Twin-scroll turbocharger - Air to water intercooler |
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