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Old 01-09-2009, 11:39 PM   #1
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Default 2010 Mazda 3 MPS...Tempting....

Here is the tempting mazda 3 mps with 191kw. I love fords but mazda's are nice too





















Mazda 3 MPS dimensions and specifications

* Dimensions
o Overall length: 4,505 mm
o Overall height: 1,460 mm
o Overall width: 1,770 mm
o Wheelbase: 2,640 mm
o Treads (front/rear): 1,535 mm/1,520 mm
o Luggage capacity: 300 l with BoseŽ System
* Drive train: FWD
* Engine: MZR 2.3-litre DISI Turbo
* Displacement: 2,261 cm3
* Bore x stroke: 87.5 mm x 94.0 mm
* Fuel tank capacity : 60 l
* Max. output : 260 PS (191 kW) at 5,500 rpm
* Max. torque: 380 Nm at 3,000 rpm
* Fuel consumption
o Combined: 9.2 l / 100 km
o Urban: 13.5 l / 100 km
o Extra urban: 7.5 l / 100 km
o Emissions ranking: Euro Stage V
* Exhaust system: single-nanotechnology
* Transmission: 6-speed manual transmission
* Differential: Torque-sensing Limited Slip Differential
* Performance
o Max. speed: 250 km/h
o 0-100km/h (EU): 6.1 s
* Steering: Electro-hydraulic power assisted system
* Turn lock-to-lock: 2.7
* Min. turning circle: 11 m
* Suspension, front: MacPherson strut
* Suspension, rear: Multi-link
* Coil spring rate, front: D26.8 N/mm
* Coil spring rate, rear: D29.9 N/mm
* Dampers, front: Twintube
* Dampers, rear: Monotube
* Stabilizer diameter, front: 26 mm
* Stabilizer diameter, rear: 25 mm
* Front brake type, diameter: Ventilated discs, 320 mm
* Rear brake type, diameter: Solid discs, 280 mm
* Coefficient of drag: 0.32 Cd
* Brake booster: 8" + 9" tandem booster & large 1" diameter master cylinder
* Tyres, wheels: Dunlop 225/40 R18, 18x7.5J

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Old 02-09-2009, 12:14 AM   #2
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pass, I am not a fan of the new generation of mazdas. I just can't get used to the look of them, maybe in a year or 2 they'll grow on me
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I'd prefer the previous model, that one looks too happy. But they are a pretty good hot hatch.
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:49 AM   #4
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I'd prefer the previous model, that one looks too happy. But they are a pretty good hot hatch.
that's exactly what i was going to write lol

on the road they look way too happy, that's one reason i love my xw and new lancer, they both have that 'get out of my way or i'll eat you' look :evil3:
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Old 02-09-2009, 08:20 AM   #5
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My brother in law owns the first model MPS 3 - From a roll it is one of the quickest stock cars I have been in (MOTOR actually found it quicker in a roll than a 911 if I remember correctly) but from a standing start the thing has so much torque steer its impossible to get the power to the ground and the computer limits the power/torque in the first few gears = yes I think its too much power for this FWD set up. They are also very expensive when you go for the luxury one pictured with BOSE, leather ect. Is a great car though don't get me wrong.

I think the new ones looks will grow on everyone as it ages a bit - I know I hated the new Mazda 6 when it first came out now its starting to look good.

Personally for the money they are asking I think they should have AWD just like the WRX and Lancer Ralliart. They are doing Ralliarts for $39,990 drive away with the DSG gearbox and 5/10 year warranty at the moment - thats a great deal IMO.
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i have driven the old one, and had a hot lap in it with Dick Johnson, very quick little cars.

The old one looks a million times better than this new one imo.
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some more information. Bold ones are my favorite

- 2.3-litre Direct Injection Spark Ignition (DISI) turbocharged in-line four-cylinder 16 valve DOHC engine with 190kW/380Nm
- Fuel economy of 9.9L/100km (combined cycle)
- Revised six-speed manual transmission
- Dynamic Stability Control (DSC), Traction Control System (TCS), Anti-lock Braking System (ABS), Electronic Brake-force Distribution (EBD), Emergency Brake Assist (EBA), dual side front airbags, dual side airbags, dual curtain airbags and active front head restraints
- 4.1-inch colour multi information display that integrates satellite navigation, BluetoothŽ phone connectivity, ambient temperature gauge, maintenance monitor and a trip computer comprising current and average fuel consumption, distance-to-empty, average speed and speed alert

2010 Mazda 3 MPS interior



- Dual zone climate control air-conditioning, 6-disc in-dash MP3/WMA-compatible CD-player, AUX-in jack, Bluetooth audio, cruise control, driver's seat with 8-way power adjustment with 3-position memory function and lumbar adjust, leather wrapped gear shift knob and steering wheel, overhead sunglasses storage box, power windows and mirrors, smart keyless entry and engine start, tilt and telescopic steering wheel and variable intermittent wipers
- 18 inch alloy wheels with 225/40 tyres, fog lamps, LED tail lamps, side indicators in exterior mirrors, sports body kit including front and rear aero bumpers, rear spoiler, side skirts and unique MPS sports grille

The up-spec Mazda3 MPS Luxury gains an auto dimming rear view mirror, bi-xenon headlamps with Adaptive Front-lighting System (AFS) and auto on/off, premium Bose amplifier and 10 speakers with subwoofer, front wipers with rain-sensing function.
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Nice looking car but I can see just by looking it has a japanese trademark that kills me when i sit in these sorts of cars at Motorshows or go in friends cars and that is; that 6 ft 3+ tall and solid build just dont well with this type of interior design. Beleive it or not Nissan Tida is one of the most comfotable 4's for a big person ive found.

I know this will sound like the bias one would expect on this Forum but to me its getting close to FG XR6T price range which would eat this for christmas dinner but then use more fuel + and - its apples and oranges and therefore hard to compare but I am sure it will do very well. Certainly looks a million times better than a new WRX IMO.
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I know this will sound like the bias one would expect on this Forum but to me its getting close to FG XR6T price range which would eat this for christmas dinner but then use more fuel + and - its apples and oranges and therefore hard to compare but I am sure it will do very well. Certainly looks a million times better than a new WRX IMO.
Don't be too quick to make that assessment. I hoped out of a xr6t into a 6MPS and while the T is a little quicker in a straight line the MPS flogs it point to point.

The 3 is only a FWD and from what I heard has issues with putting that 190Kw to the ground but they are a hot hatch.
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Don't be too quick to make that assessment. I hoped out of a xr6t into a 6MPS and while the T is a little quicker in a straight line the MPS flogs it point to point.

The 3 is only a FWD and from what I heard has issues with putting that 190Kw to the ground but they are a hot hatch.

So the XR6T at 5.2 secs to 100 is a just little quicker yet the MPS flogs it point to point? Yeah right. What point to point are you talking about? If you are taliking a lap of Bathurst or Sandown etc I reckon the XR6T would do a lap 4 or 5 secs quicker and obviousley closer if a tighter track but you would want to have very grippy tires on the front of the Mazda. I wouldnt worry about about the seat of the pants feel to be honest Have you ever driven a Z3 or Z4 Roadster back to back against an M3? The Roadster feels like its about 2 secs faster to 100 or qtr mile but it is not if any quicker.
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So the XR6T at 5.2 secs to 100 is a just little quicker yet the MPS flogs it point to point? Yeah right. What point to point are you talking about? If you are taliking a lap of Bathurst or Sandown etc I reckon the XR6T would do a lap 4 or 5 secs quicker and obviousley closer if a tighter track but you would want to have very grippy tires on the front of the Mazda. I wouldnt worry about about the seat of the pants feel to be honest Have you ever driven a Z3 or Z4 Roadster back to back against an M3? The Roadster feels like its about 2 secs faster to 100 or qtr mile but it is not if any quicker.
As I've owned both I think I some authority to make a comparison. Also the 6 MPS that I was talking about is AWD and absolutely runs rings around the T in handling. The T is faster in a straight line (and feels faster) but unless you hop into a 6MPS you have no idea how these things handle.
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As I've owned both I think I some authority to make a comparison. Also the 6 MPS that I was talking about is AWD and absolutely runs rings around the T in handling. The T is faster in a straight line (and feels faster) but unless you hop into a 6MPS you have no idea how these things handle.

oops only just realised you were referring to the 6 and not the 3. What was the price of the 6MPS? was getting beyond XR6T into F6 territory (mid 50's? I could be wrong??) All bias aside I am sure that the AWD version would have handled magnificently much better than this FWD ever could and yes would out handle a XR6 with its AWD and different weight balance, But an FG Turbo would eat equally as much in a straight line Motor Mag 5.1 vs 6.6 is like comparing a hot hatch to a Supercar; 2 totally different classes of performance.
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Way too ugly, IMO. If you wiped the grin off its front end, perhaps it'll look a little better.

I considered the previous model but the torque steer was insane. I can only imagine with it having a few more ponies that it won't be any better in this model.
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Is it just me or does that Black bit on the front there look like a blackhead skin blemish poking through an otherwise nice skin..

I just can not get over these frontends that look like they have been cut off with a saw just to be trendy.

Mitsu Lancer, Mazda 2&3, Fiesta, and i am sure there are a few others look terrible to me. It's as if they say, "oh crud, it's too long lets just cut a few inches off the front and put some black stuff behind it and nobody will notice!"

No, not for me.
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Just reading through some of those specs, one caught my eye. Turning circle = 11m.
Thats the same as an XF! Hell, the wheelbase is only ~200mm shorter than an XF. When did small cars get so damn big!

Aside from that I agree about the first one looking better, but these do look nice and nasty too.
One of these with the big brothers AWD would be an absolute monster.
C'mon Ford, rebadge a Mazda again. :evil3:
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Just reading through some of those specs, one caught my eye. Turning circle = 11m.
Thats the same as an XF! Hell, the wheelbase is only ~200mm shorter than an XF. When did small cars get so damn big!
I'd expect it is worse than the normal Mazda3 because of the larger wheels & tyres. The Focus & Fiesta ST/XR models are the same, the turning circle is a lot bigger than standard models.

Put me down also as preferring the previous model styling, this is almost a caricature of that model and takes it too far in my opinion. It is too "gimmicky".
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Just reading through some of those specs, one caught my eye. Turning circle = 11m.
Thats the same as an XF! Hell, the wheelbase is only ~200mm shorter than an XF. When did small cars get so damn big!

Aside from that I agree about the first one looking better, but these do look nice and nasty too.
One of these with the big brothers AWD would be an absolute monster.
C'mon Ford, rebadge a Mazda again. :evil3:
i agree with you there,my wife has a new sp25 sedan only a bit shorter than my xd.
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I like them but no doubt with all the fruit they will be 40 kay.. for an extra 2 kay i can get an XR6 Turbo sedan...
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Fast car should look angry, not smiley.

Don't like it's face.

Other than that it looks to be the goods.
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I'd prefer the Focus XR5 Turbo over the new MPS. The front end of the new 3's are a deal breaker for me.
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I'd prefer the Focus XR5 Turbo over the new MPS. The front end of the new 3's are a deal breaker for me.
Agreed. Do the XR5's come with cruise control these days?
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it looks like a smiling 350z with a hat ontop to me, regardless of speed I don't like that curved down almost AU style nose, and that smile screams "lets do lunch, then go shopping"

if its got the punch it needs the attitude, this car is all wrong kinda like a hungry bear that looks like Hugh Grant - looks wimpy and unassuming, but let your guard down and it will rip your face off. - very commendable attempt mazda you are close.
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Agreed. Do the XR5's come with cruise control these days?
According to the Ford web site they still don't.
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Hmm pretty cool, but as above, nothing beats the FG XR6T for value around that price.

There was a concept car not long ago that mazda did with the "gills" on that front end, I think its great that they are bringing that through the range.

One thing that annoys me about the new mazdas is the rear end, it might look ok in photos but in person its awkward.
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They could of put the number plate on straight unless its just an optical illusion.
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Re the turning circle, it would be due to the LSD. I had a Pulsar Vector SSS a number of years ago which had an LSD and also had a huge turning circle.

Does anyone know how much these things weigh?
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FWD and peformance arent two words that belong together
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While I'd consider one for my next car, it's another torque steering pig.
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While I'd consider one for my next car, it's another torque steering pig.
You have driven one???
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