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19-01-2015, 11:32 PM | #1 | ||
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"Jeep says it’s working to address its growing customer dissatisfaction in Australia as the number of product recalls reached its highest on record last year.
In 2014 Jeep issued 14 recalls on its vehicles, 11 of which were on the popular Grand Cherokee (six affected the 2014 model), all part of 16 recalls in total for the Fiat Chrysler group. The global CEO and president of Jeep, Mike Manly, said work has already started on improving customers’ after-sales satisfaction. “We have taken a number of steps to address the things that are addressable.” Manly told the Australian media in Detroit today. “In terms of not just quality of our vehicles, but also in the way we handle our customers, you’ve seen some of those changes in Australia”. Jeep’s growth potential in Australia hinges not just on attracting new customers but also maintaining existing ones, a task that industry data on consideration to repurchase for existing customers suggests may be a challenge. Nonetheless, the sharply priced and feature-rich Jeep Grand Cherokee was a big hit last year, taking the title of the best selling large SUV in Australia for 2014 with 16,582 sales. Manly is keen to point out that that the problems are not necessarily just with the vehicles, but also in how the fixes were being addressed. “I think our job is to try to produce the best quality vehicles we can but when there’s an issue to make sure we try to deal with that situation in the best way we possibly can.” “I am not into categorising faults.” Manly said when asked if it was the Jeep dealers that had let some customers down. “We have a lot of communication with our customers as well, through our call centres, through regular communication with them. I am not into allocating who’s fault or who’s blame it is”. This year will see Jeep launch the highly anticipated Renegade SUV, with a minor update coming for the Grand Cherokee in 2016 before an all-new model arrives in 2017." Read more at http://www.caradvice.com.au/329995/j...EObdoVjMim3.99
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20-01-2015, 12:53 PM | #2 | ||
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I have a colleague who had to take back his $65k Cherokee the week after delivery to have some minor things fixed.
Bonnet to aligned Vehicle pulling to the left Trim piece not right (grab handle or something) ....I thought that is what a pre delivery inspection (that you pay for) was supposed to pick up and fix ?? That said this blokes loves his Cherokee with a capital L. Good marketing of an average quality American car. |
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20-01-2015, 03:35 PM | #3 | ||
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I dunno, I read all these "horror" stories and I just don't know. My dad loves both his Grand Cherokees, one's got the Mercedes diesel, the other has the VM Motori. I would happily buy one over a Bland Cruiser.
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20-01-2015, 08:00 PM | #4 | ||
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I'd like to like a Grand Cherokee, even closely considered going to a Dealer to look.
BUT the high defect rate, amount of recalls and combined with poor parts support and service mean - no way. |
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20-01-2015, 08:07 PM | #5 | ||
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Anyone else notice the high amount of Grand Cherokee's with one headlamp blown?
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20-01-2015, 10:02 PM | #6 | ||
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I have 2 mates with SRT Grand Cherrokee Jeeps, one an ex V8 Landcruiser owner, the other ex ML350 Merc owner.
1st one had a rattle behind the dash and poor trim fit around gearshift, the 2nd developed an upchanging thud in the trans.. Both (one dealer in Syd and 2nd in Melb) couldn't speak highly enough of their treatment & prompt fix of their issues.. Courtesy car was offered to both (mate in Melb had a 300 SRT hemi as his) Other mate reckoned he was treated a million times better by Jeep than in all his years of Merc ownership! And they both still rave how good their SRTs are! Jeep/ Chrysler must be doing something right?
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20-01-2015, 11:09 PM | #7 | ||
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Marketing is very clever, they probably have the best strategy on TV.
All there adds tell a story and flow with each other, then add in competitive pricing. Jeep parts pricing is very high. Don't hold back the Robinson's didn't, its your turn to mow there lawn.. There vehicle reviews for the Jeep's are very ordinary, under $35k SUV from 12 vehicles tested Jeep had 2 entries they came a distant last and 2nd last.
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21-01-2015, 09:38 AM | #8 | ||
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If they are indicating the driving lights switch off on that side. This is what you are seeing as I thought the same thing at first. We just bought a grand cherokee and so far it has been fine. As for customer service can't be any worse than ford.
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21-01-2015, 05:45 PM | #9 | |||
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Its the pre-face lifted ones with the regular headlamps that I keep seing with one blown globe. Not a good look.
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21-01-2015, 09:58 PM | #10 | |||
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On one of the TV ad's for the Compass it sort of shows it happen. I rang my local Chrysler, Jeep, Dodge place in December 2013 to ask a question about the price of a part for my Chrysler. They said they would ring me right back with the price. As of today I still haven't received that call. I toyed with the idea of a Grand because I have always loved them, even the ZG as a kid, but due to multiple reasons I avoided it. Plus having a ute is more practical for my needs anyway. |
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22-01-2015, 09:32 AM | #11 | ||
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LandCruiser and GC are not competitors - one is a heavy duty 4wd and the other is unibody car with extra ground clearance . GC drives well , so it should as it is based on Merc ML class ...
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22-01-2015, 12:07 PM | #12 | ||
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They're competitors if customers cross-shop them, I'd be considering all my options if I wanted a 4x4. They're towing capacities are the same, they both have V8 and diesel options, dual range transfer case. I don't see how you can call the LC200 "heavy duty." These are all light-duty.
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25-01-2015, 11:51 AM | #14 | ||
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It's not heavy duty. I don't even call my F150 heavy duty and it will pull about 4.5 tonnes. It's body-on-frame too, but then so is the Jeep Wrangler. That's definitely not heavy duty, though it is a capable off-roader. I would say older Land Cruisers like the 60 series are "rugged" but still not heavy duty. The new ones aren't even rugged anymore.
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20-01-2015, 11:00 PM | #15 | ||
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Owch... All those recalls would have eroded any profit margin made at sale time, perhaps even put them in the red on each vehicle?
Imagine an owner having to open a letter every few weeks / months and thinking 'what, not again!' I have heard that replacement parts can take months to arrive, but had no idea that they had so many recalls.
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20-01-2015, 11:53 PM | #16 | |||
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I have a MY2014 JGC and only have received 1 recall notice in the 15mths I have had it, which was for the indication for a blown lamp might not indicate on the instrument cluster. The fix was a software flash. There have been a number of software updates for the Uconnect(radio, climate control, gps etc) Warren
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21-01-2015, 08:38 PM | #18 | |||
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Genuine question, I'm interested to hear.
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21-01-2015, 01:38 AM | #19 | ||
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21-01-2015, 02:25 AM | #20 | ||
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I'm seeing Jeeps everywhere these days. The Grand Cherokee is proving very popular.
Recalls aren't necessarily always viewed as bad things... They can show that an issue is being proactively addressed and fixed.
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21-01-2015, 05:59 PM | #21 | ||
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Yeah but lots of cars on the road doesn't mean it is a premium product, and don't get me wrong im not saying it is or it isn't, but looking at ads on the box they do seem to sell cheap , and im pretty sure in most peoples minds the bottom line is how much paper stuff they have to part with when deciding what limo to buy.
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21-01-2015, 07:39 PM | #22 | ||
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Theres a joke flying around in the auto industry at the moment
"I bought a Jeep.................once" "I bought a Jeep.................and never again" |
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21-01-2015, 06:27 AM | #23 | ||
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Ive heard it's $2-3k for a headlamp assembly, $1,8k for a mirror housing...these are what panel shops have to pay.
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But then again these are not just simple headlamps and wing mirrors. when it comes to the SRT8 & Overland models
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21-01-2015, 08:12 PM | #25 | |||
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Heard this from a central buyer for a large Melbourne based group of smash repair shops. But yes, he could have been adding a little mayo to the story.
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21-01-2015, 12:51 PM | #26 | ||
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No complaints here with my Jeep. It's had a few recalls (all bar one I didn't know about), but they were dealt with when being serviced and always been provided a loaner without issue.
Have had no more issues with this car, than any previously owned and the dealer service has been a step above any dealer I've dealt with.
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21-01-2015, 02:44 PM | #27 | ||
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Yep....still loving mine too.
I've had 3 recalls done in 2.5 years of ownership, and they were nothing to really worry about. I have tried 3 different dealers for it's 4 services so far and my last service dealer I will stick with at this stage as they gave me a loaner and will also run me home or to the nearest shopping centre and pick me up again when it's ready.
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21-01-2015, 02:58 PM | #28 | ||
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Grand Jeep Cherokee 1 single alloy rim $4k retail, I spoke to an insurance assessor who had to approve one that was in accident.
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SRT8 must have cheaper wheels than stock GC Jeeps, as you can purchase a set of 4 OEM SRT wheels for the Jeep cheaper than that.
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21-01-2015, 04:52 PM | #30 | ||
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less than $2500 for a set of 20" SRT8 spider monkeys on Ebay.
a panel beater will show the highest quote for a part and then source it cheaper
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