Alcopop tax killed in the senate.

Romulus · 18-03-2009, 09:41 PM

A blow to the Labor government, Senator Steve Fielding sided with the Opposition to oppose the bill. The Fed government is now forced to hand back $300million to RTD companies, and is set to lose $1.6 billion in revenue.

I believe the alcopop tax was nothing more than a tax grab, and would have had no effect on alcohol consumption. Australian has a booze culture, it wouldn't matter how high the price of alcohol was the consumption will remain.

What are your thoughts?

rodderz · 18-03-2009, 09:45 PM

I'll drink to that!

snappy · 18-03-2009, 09:53 PM

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I'll drink to that!

Romulus · 18-03-2009, 09:50 PM

I'm looking forward to cheaper JB & Coke premixed while watching my favourite DJR cars racing around

Thank you Mr Fielding!!!

Windsor220 · 18-03-2009, 09:55 PM

This is good news being a non beer drinker.

And I agree about it not having an affect on drinking. Everyone I know were still drinking but just ended up with less money at the end of the night.

n1ck · 18-03-2009, 09:54 PM

hell yea cant wait to go get some more cheap jd to refill my jd fridge
its only had coke in it for the last few months ):

You Yangs · 18-03-2009, 10:02 PM

I think I will send Senator Fielding a case of Bundy & Cola! What a deadset legend this bloke is for finally showing an Iron fist without the velvet glove and giving Krudd and his Health minister Nicola Roxon a taste of the canvas and sending them back to the drawing board!!

Pedro · 18-03-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TVS Super Pursuit

A blow to the Labor government, Senator Steve Fielding sided with the Opposition to oppose the bill. The Fed government is now forced to hand back $300million to RTD companies, and is set to lose $1.6 billion in revenue.

I believe the alcopop tax was nothing more than a tax grab, and would have had no effect on alcohol consumption. Australian has a booze culture, it wouldn't matter how high the price of alcohol was the consumption will remain.

What are your thoughts?

You are spot on ... it was a blatant tax grab by a fiscally inept federal government bereft of any intellegent ideas.

bob^ · 18-03-2009, 10:17 PM

And now a win for the RTD companies who pocket an extra $300million from sales in the last few months.

Airmon · 18-03-2009, 10:17 PM

The system works!!!!!!

It was a stupid tax to begin with. All it did was make me buy more beer or spirits over pre-mixed.

F6T · 18-03-2009, 10:22 PM

I read that sales of bottles of spirits had increased indicating that the bottles were being purchased and THEN mixed often to a level far higher than the premixed alcohol level. meaning that they were getting even more ****ed for less!!! so much for that idea.

Daniel · 18-03-2009, 10:31 PM

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I read that sales of bottles of spirits had increased indicating that the bottles were being purchased and THEN mixed often to a level far higher than the premixed alcohol level. meaning that they were getting even more ****ed for less!!! so much for that idea.

I rarely drink beer and I can tell you now that was 250% the case with me and all of my mates etc; might not go back in fact...

the damage has been done haha

It was such a stupidly blatant tax grab that backfired in the end; but who didn't see that coming from the day it was proposed.. oh thats right.. THEY didn't!

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**DJR-351** · 18-03-2009, 11:15 PM

Blatant tax grab using the (youth) binge drinking culture as an excuse....

As far as i could see the same amount of p*** heads where still getting wasted, tax or no tax....

According to SBS (09:30pm) the Rudites are not going to hand the $300m already collected back to the Alcopop companies without a fight, instead they want to direct the funds into fighting Australias drinking problems.....

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Daymoe · 18-03-2009, 10:29 PM

Yay, everyone will be happy at school tomorrow haha.

GTpilot · 18-03-2009, 10:53 PM

Bitchin I didn't keep all my reciepts, I'd love to add them to my tax refund in July

Iggypoppin' · 18-03-2009, 11:20 PM

about bloody time. lumping "alcopops" into a purely teen subculture. I was very very sick of mixing my own, or drinking only beer. a slab of JDs for 100 bucks is ridiculous. Rudd you are a wierd one, i both love and hate ya. Thanks for the 950, no thanks to that silly alcohol tax! at least you like the strippers.

DaveGod · 18-03-2009, 11:22 PM

I dont know why the money would even go back to the RTD companies? I mean it was the consumer that paid the increase (the TAX) not the company, the RTD companys would be getting free money???

And yes everyone i know including myself who used to drink RTDs before the tax just bought bottles and mixed ourselves. RTDs were just easier to travel and dispose of.

**DJR-351** · 18-03-2009, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveGod

I dont know why the money would even go back to the RTD companies? I mean it was the consumer that paid the increase (the TAX) not the company, the RTD companys would be getting free money???

And yes everyone i know including myself who used to drink RTDs before the tax just bought bottles and mixed ourselves. RTDs were just easier to travel and dispose of.

Dont know either, but they are after it....

One things for sure, Joe Public wont see it....

Iggypoppin' · 18-03-2009, 11:52 PM

We can finally stop getting ripped off though. bet plenty of the "against tax" voters like a cold JD n Coke...in a can.

snappy · 18-03-2009, 11:53 PM

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According to SBS (09:30pm) the Rudites are not going to hand the $300m already collected back to the Alcopop companies without a fight, instead they want to direct the funds into fighting Australias drinking problems.....

well imo its a good idea you should need a license to drink .
Because there is plenty of people that cant handle the high performance stuff.

Iggypoppin' · 18-03-2009, 11:57 PM

incredibly hard to police that though. would there be a learners(winesacks and low alcohol beer) provisional (west end, VB, other somesuch swill?) and full licence(bacardi 151)?

snappy · 19-03-2009, 12:04 AM

Im just taking the puss

But i think there is a alcohol problem in australia , I should know i have one coke just doesn't taste right without it .
Would not have a clue what to do about , Not all that worried yet that is until i can no longer afford to live in a decent area

schnoods · 19-03-2009, 12:09 AM

At least prices will get back to reality!

Once went to a drive through and saw a banner for Jack daniels premix- $117!

flappist · 19-03-2009, 12:13 AM

I will bet anyone a 6 pack of square bear and cola that the price of a 6 pack of square bear and cola is still "tax included" tomorrow.

There is a legal dilemma here. The collected tax is not the property of the grog floggers so they cannot have it. I wonder if comrade chairman kev will find it should be "redistrubuted" and make up part of the $900, or BETTER still, 300M / 5M tax payers = $60 each do we get $960.

Or maybe it could go to road improvement or driver training?

Nahhh it will be used for a new sensitivity training scheme for disabled left handed gay freckled fleeby-doos for sure.....

Iggypoppin' · 19-03-2009, 12:17 AM

[QUOTENahhh it will be used for a new sensitivity training scheme for disabled left handed gay freckled fleeby-doos for sure.....[/QUOTE]

yeah thats what we need, more of that stuff.
yeah i thought you where snappy, just makin sure.
well, come friday JDs better be cheaper...

vztrt · 19-03-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

I will bet anyone a 6 pack of square bear and cola that the price of a 6 pack of square bear and cola is still "tax included" tomorrow.

This is what I was thinking. People are conditioned to these prices so why would they change it?

Was better off buying a bottle and a mixer in the first place before or after the tax.

Does anyone know the prices of the RTD stuff pre and post the alco pops tax?

Jason[98.EL] · 20-03-2009, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by vztrt

Does anyone know the prices of the RTD stuff pre and post the alco pops tax?

these prises are aproxamate but here goes

pre tax time a slab of jim beam was $59.95 full price
after tax hike the same slab is around $69.99

roughly the same for the likes of jack daniels cougar bundy (Pre $69.99 / After $79.99 )

P.S we also got another memo at work saying the new prices will be rolled out in the next 2 weeks so we will have a bit longer paying the taxed prices

Jason

Fev · 16-04-2009, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Agreed. The amount they've spent on disabled people for trams and other things is absurd. It's not their fault that their disabled, but it's not ours either so stop making us pay for it.

i hope you were being sarcastic there, otherwise thats one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard.

Airmon - yeah, i've noticed the prices are still high. The vendors know that customers will be happy its cheaper so they will still charge more for them - which is bullplop..

Anyone know if during the period where the alcopop tax was in, did bar violence increase? Wasn't this when alot of glassing's happened and why Bars in the city now serve in plastic cups? (Sydney)
i wouldn't be surprised since more people would go get drunk at a bar because its not much more then buying it from a bottle-o

ILLaViTaR · 17-04-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Fev

i hope you were being sarcastic there, otherwise thats one of the most ignorant things i've ever heard.

Airmon - yeah, i've noticed the prices are still high. The vendors know that customers will be happy its cheaper so they will still charge more for them - which is bullplop..

Anyone know if during the period where the alcopop tax was in, did bar violence increase? Wasn't this when alot of glassing's happened and why Bars in the city now serve in plastic cups? (Sydney)
i wouldn't be surprised since more people would go get drunk at a bar because its not much more then buying it from a bottle-o

Yeah it was a bit cold, probably should explain myself better.
Of course they need facilities built for them as it must be a struggle everyday for them but they're going over the top.

They've spent millions modifying all the tram platforms in Melbourne so they're level with the tram which cost tax payers an absolute heap. Managed 100 years without them but someone probably said it was offensive so they built it.

Work Horse · 17-04-2009, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ILLaViTaR

Yeah it was a bit cold, probably should explain myself better.
Of course they need facilities built for them as it must be a struggle everyday for them but they're going over the top.

They've spent millions modifying all the tram platforms in Melbourne so they're level with the tram which cost tax payers an absolute heap. Managed 100 years without them but someone probably said it was offensive so they built it.

Blame the morons who designed stops for able bodied only people in the first place, you narrow minded bigot

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