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Old 31-05-2011, 10:22 PM   #1
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The Victorian Government plans to introduce laws this week that will give police permanent power to issue on-the-spot fines to people who swear.

Under the proposed legislation, people could be fined close to $240 for language that is considered indecent or offensive.

Attorney-General Robert Clark says the changes mean police will not have to use the courts to deal with people who use bad language.

"We're going to be confirming the power of police to issue on-the-spot infringement notices for these sorts of offences, which will free up police resources," he said.

"It will also enable them to more effectively act against the sort of loud-mouthed, obnoxious behaviour that can make going out to public places unpleasant for other members of the public."



That is incredible.. Its not April 1st is it?

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Old 31-05-2011, 10:24 PM   #2
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Old 31-05-2011, 10:36 PM   #3
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I'm sure you won't get fined if they over hear your saying petty swear words to your mates or on the phone in casual conversation, but mouth off at cops and you'll get a nice fine..good thing IMO
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Isn't this from the side of politics that preaches "small government"? I see nothing small about regulating what people can say on the street backed up by the force of the gun.

This will be abused, just like every other nonsensical law in the book.
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Old 31-05-2011, 11:00 PM   #6
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I'm sure you won't get fined if they over hear your saying petty swear words to your mates or on the phone in casual conversation, but mouth off at cops and you'll get a nice fine..good thing IMO

This isnt directed for the police. It is already a punishable offense, to say anything to an officer that they deem innapropriate. For example, swearing, use of the word pig can even land you in hot water.

This new proposal is more geared towards loud mouthed yokels who feel it fine to swear loudly in public places. Attitudes that often result in physical altercations. Be that the MCG or king st.
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Old 31-05-2011, 11:23 PM   #7
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So they should. I cannot stand going through a shopping center, which is a family friendly location, and hearing some of the language coming from some peoples mouths. Now I drop the words every now and then through the course of a conversation, but I'd expect these laws would cover the people who scream out across the street or feel the need to drop the f bomb every second word loudly. In family friendly locations, people shouldn't have to listen to it.
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So they should. I cannot stand going through a shopping center, which is a family friendly location, and hearing some of the language coming from some peoples mouths. Now I drop the words every now and then through the course of a conversation, but I'd expect these laws would cover the people who scream out across the street or feel the need to drop the f bomb every second word loudly. In family friendly locations, people shouldn't have to listen to it.
The manager of the PRIVATE business would ask the person to leave if they are disturbing other customers, you don't need to sign away the ability to swear in public to the state to achieve family friendly areas.

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Old 31-05-2011, 11:32 PM   #9
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Walking down a shopping strip or through the city is not private property. This is the biggest media blow up, honestly, do people expect police will go around fining everyone who swears every single time? Fair dinkum, there wouldn't be enough police to police this if they were to get everyone.
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Old 31-05-2011, 10:51 PM   #10
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heard this on the age.com.au and i couldn't believe they are going have this as law, add this to this list of Victorian rule book for our nanny state , this state is unbelievable with all ***** rules that they want to introduce , wants next we get for fined for going for a walk
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heard this on the age.com.au and i couldn't believe they are going have this as law, add this to this list of Victorian rule book for our nanny state , this state is unbelievable with all ***** rules that they want to introduce , wants next we get for fined for going for a walk
It's already law - all they are going to do is give police powers to issue on the spot fines instead of dragging these sorts of things through the courts. About bloody time too! You can always choose to go to court and fight the fine - I would use the dictionary defence myself.
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Old 31-05-2011, 10:51 PM   #12
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Or for the dregs that go around saying "C word" this and "C word" that.
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Or for the dregs that go around saying "C word" this and "C word" that.
Damn straight, that is the worst word.

Honestly, I am against most of the "nanny" laws that go around but this is a good one. Having two small kids its impossible to walk down the street without some cretin using F, S, or C as a full stop.

Once I asked a bloke to stop, he looked at me oddly and walked off.

It shows a severe lack of intelligence to drop swear words every 2 seconds. The people that get done for this deserve it.

Im sure if you say one word it wont matter, its for the bogans that lip off left right and center.

+1 to society here.

I too swear, sometimes I dont mean it, but never in public and infront of others.

edit: just read that article. That is pathetic that a guy can mouth off at a police officer and drop the F bomb...its all the little things that are letting society down and bogans run riot.
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i don't have a problem with it. i don't swear, and i find it totally unneccessary.

the fact that so many people can't have a conversation without punctuating it with a swear word every 2 seconds is pathetic if you ask me.

generations gone by would be horrified if they were around today and australians are getting a reputation around the world as a rough and uncouth population.
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Damn straight, that is the worst word.

Honestly, I am against most of the "nanny" laws that go around but this is a good one. Having two small kids its impossible to walk down the street without some cretin using F, S, or C as a full stop.

Once I asked a bloke to stop, he looked at me oddly and walked off.

It shows a severe lack of intelligence to drop swear words every 2 seconds. The people that get done for this deserve it.

Im sure if you say one word it wont matter, its for the bogans that lip off left right and center.

+1 to society here.

I too swear, sometimes I dont mean it, but never in public and infront of others.

edit: just read that article. That is pathetic that a guy can mouth off at a police officer and drop the F bomb...its all the little things that are letting society down and bogans run riot.
I was out in the city (Adelaide) with my GF and her younger brothers (12 and 14 at the time), we were going to the Indian festival so we were waiting to catch a tram...
There was this bloke (I'm not gonna get specific about race or whatever) mouthing off at nothing, just letting all the C's F's and S's fly all over the place. He was also drunk on "goon".
I asked him to button it up, that there were kids present and he wasn't making a good example of himself.
He got really angry and just continued swearing - so obviously decent citizens can't stop other citizens from swearing, we need the cops to get involved.

I'm a big lad and he was a lot smaller than me, so I was a bit surprised he didn't apologise straight-away (I didn't threaten or attempt to intimidate him at all, but usually just being big makes people think twice).

This is just an example of how someone's actions (swearing) put a bit of a damper on our day out.
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Bloody hell. Well I guess I won't be going into the city anytime soon.

This guy must have a real potty mouth!

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Another nail in this nanny state.

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Victoria is a joke. Soon they'll be charging a methane gas, they'll weigh my turds and charge me accordingly, and go through my garbage...
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They already do that. A lot of councils inspect/audit rubbish and recycling to make sure they aren't throwing away anything questionable.
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SA starting to look pretty good isn't it Victorians??
Hehe just jokes guys, seriously though it's a pretty silly law. Someones a little flustered in government, did a younger pollie say the word "damn"? Heavensake whatever shall we do!
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Dont get carried away here people.

This legislation is aimed at the trash walking our streets calling everyone every name under the sun and yelling obscenities at the top of their voices in public places because they are ill mannered and have no social skills.

Hell, we all swear but know ones going to get done for dropping a swear bomb in normal conversation while you are walking down the street. But if you're yelling out to your mate at the other end of the street calling him every name under the sun while you drain the last drop out of your goon bag then, cop this sunshine.
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Dont get carried away here people.

This legislation is aimed at the trash walking our streets calling everyone every name under the sun and yelling obscenities at the top of their voices in public places because they are ill mannered and have no social skills.

Hell, we all swear but know ones going to get done for dropping a swear bomb in normal conversation while you are walking down the street. But if you're yelling out to your mate at the other end of the street calling him every name under the sun while you drain the last drop out of your goon bag then, cop this sunshine.
I guess it's the same for hoon legislation too. As long as it promises to focus on the dregs of society it's okay, never would normal everyday people have any run ins with the law over it!
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My words are endangering public safety...this isn't a revenue grab at all.
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wow amazing how more nanny state comments pop up.
seemingly you dont know the law, as swearing is already an offence.
There is no "new" law.
The change is now Police can give you an on the spot fine, instead of the matter going to court and wasting time in there.

Every state has laws about offensive language, qld changed its last year in the same way. Police now hand out on the spot fines, instead of a court summons.
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That is incredible.. Its not April 1st is it?
Generally this wont apply to normal conversational levels , it will of course be defeated as federal wont support it and unless the language is very bad wont be outside normal accepted social mores , but someone has to make the challenge , personally I prefer not to hear such things in public places although women now take the lead in fithy it needn't be , big fail imho
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The law has got the rights already to fight the "scum"and I'm afraid society allowedyour kids in general to swear , most teens I know have very trashy mouths .and I struggle to have a conversation with them without pulling them up . I don't agree with anyone giving police these powers as mobile ticket / cash machines though . Your Freedom that we fought for is slowly eroding . Sad times indeed
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