Tesla- 8 year warranty

[zilo]

Just recently signed up for a test drive of the model S in Melbourne.

Received this email from the CEO.

One less criticism of electric cars me thinks.

8 years warranty by any car maker is damn impressive, particularly in a vehicle of this technological complexity.

"Today, Tesla announced that the Model S drive unit warranty has been increased to match that of the battery pack. That means the 85 kWh Model S now has an 8 year, infinite mile warranty on both the battery pack and drive unit. Moreover, the warranty extension will apply retroactively to all 85 kWh Model S vehicles ever produced.

No other changes have been made to the warranty.

Here's what CEO Elon Musk wrote about the new policy in a post today:

Infinite Mile Warranty

The Tesla Model S drive unit warranty has been increased to match that of the battery pack. That means the 85 kWh Model S, our most popular model by far, now has an 8 year, infinite mile warranty on both the battery pack and drive unit. There is also no limit on the number of owners during the warranty period.

Moreover, the warranty extension will apply retroactively to all Model S vehicles ever produced.

[naddis01]

I would gladly own a Tesla Model S. Any idea on pricing yet? When are they meant to come out?

[zilo]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I would gladly own a Tesla Model S. Any idea on pricing yet? When are they meant to come out?

I have already driven the first Tesla Roadster.

The model "S' is in Aus here.....

This is cut/paste from my email, not sure if it will work.

This car is something very special.


Experience Model S in Australia

The Darling
80 Pyrmont Street
Pyrmont NSW 2009

August 18th – September 11th
10am – 8pm

Melbourne Marriott
Exhibition Street
Melbourne VIC 3000

August 15th – September 14th
10am – 6pm

[mik]

About $ 90,000.00 to just over $ 100,000.00 I believe.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Kia are toying with a 7 or 8 yr factory warranty. While I don't have the funds for a Tesla if Kia made a cost effective EV with that warranty it would be a serious contender.

[NTF6]

85kw woohoo, where do I sign up?

[zilo]

Originally Posted by NTF6

85kw woohoo, where do I sign up?

Err..that's the rating of the battery pack, not the engine.

You might be in for a shock if you look at the performance specs...

BMW M5 (dual clutch): 30-90 =6.3 sec, 45-65=1.8 sec @ $104,000
Porsche Panamera GTS: 30-90 =7.6 sec, 45-65=2.3 sec @ $146,000
Tesla Model S85 (std): 30-90 =6.6 sec, 45-65=1.9 sec @ $82,500+/-
Tesla Model S P85(performance): 30-90 =6 sec, 45-65=1.7 sec @ $96,000+/-

Look at those numbers carefully?

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by NTF6

85kw woohoo, where do I sign up?

Even if it was motor output it would suit 90% of drivers. 7 of the 9 cars I have ever owned were below 85kw and they served me just fine.

[wranger]

Originally Posted by NTF6

85kw woohoo, where do I sign up?

If that's what you think I'd be very careful pulling up next to one at the lights

[Jastel]

I saw Tesla dealer in LA, walked in for a look, salesman was all over me like a rash so I played along getting prices etc. No plans to buy naturally.

He then said something about my accent and I said I was from Australia, he said no problems we have a dealer in Sydney and guaranteed 24hr roadside assistance anywhere in the country.

I then said I lived 35 hours by road from Sydney and how does that help me and walked out laughing.

Hope you don't need the warranty or you live closer than me.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Jastel

I saw Tesla dealer in LA, walked in for a look, salesman was all over me like a rash so I played along getting prices etc. No plans to buy naturally.

He then said something about my accent and I said I was from Australia, he said no problems we have a dealer in Sydney and guaranteed 24hr roadside assistance anywhere in the country.

I then said I lived 35 hours by road from Sydney and how does that help me and walked out laughing.

Hope you don't need the warranty or you live closer than me.

Obviously you aren't used to good service at a dealership..If I was the salesman i would have picked you as a time waster and shown you the door, maybe you haven't heard about certain Ford dealerships where you get ignored, they have no stock and argue for any warranty claims?

[Jastel]

Originally Posted by zilo

Obviously you aren't used to good service at a dealership..If I was the salesman i would have picked you as a time waster and shown you the door, maybe you haven't heard about certain Ford dealerships where you get ignored, they have no stock and argue for any warranty claims?

Chill dude...its just a funny story about Yanks knowing squat about Australia.
Salesman wanted to talk so I let him. Where was I supposed to put the car? In my carry on baggage? We both knew there was NO SALE.

And you are quite correct...have NEVER received decent service from Ford Sales or warranty/repair side. Hence I never go there unless I am REAL desparate...probably 3 times in 30 years I have needed the computer.

The parts guys are helpful but.

Any salesman that shows customers the door wont be employed very long...haven't you seen "Pretty Woman"...Big Mistake...Huuge!

[Cashie]

Originally Posted by NTF6

85kw woohoo, where do I sign up?

Try 85kWh...
Industry leading actually.

[Rodge]

You've got to hand it to Elon Musk. He's putting his balls on the line in a manner that no other manufacturer of an electric or petrol vehicle does and 300 kw's and 600 nm's giving 0-100 in 4.4 seconds is very impressive any way you slice and dice it.

They look bloody good too

[deesun]

BMW have one coming too haven't they?

[marty351]

I recently read on a website called THE OATMEAL a huge thumbs up write up on this car.
Worth a look!

[Charliewool]

Wife's cousin is a designer (3D sculptor) for Tesla in LA.
Some pretty remarkable stuff soon to come from this mob.

[Crazy Dazz]

Base model is $100,000 and EVERYTHING is an optional extra.
For that sort of money it would have to be extraordinarily special.

Whilst those "performance" numbers are impressive, I wonder how far the battery would last if you actually drove like that?

It is utterly ridiculous to point at a $100,000 car and exclaim its technological virtues. IF people were prepared to pay that sort of money for their car, AND had been for the past few decades, today's Falcon/ Commode/ Camry would look radically different.

It's like people who fork out $50k for a Prius, then exclaim how much better it is than the equivalent $30k Corolla.

NB: The 8 year warranty only covers the battery & drive-unit, hardly bumper to bumper. Nor are they very clear on what that warranty actually means. They warranty that the battery will "work" for 8 years, but at what level? If they guarantee it will still hold 92% of its capacity in 8 years, with new for old replacement, then THAT's impressive. It it's 60% with pro rata reimbursement, then not so much.

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Base model is $100,000 and EVERYTHING is an optional extra.
For that sort of money it would have to be extraordinarily special.

Whilst those "performance" numbers are impressive, I wonder how far the battery would last if you actually drove like that?

It is utterly ridiculous to point at a $100,000 car and exclaim its technological virtues. IF people were prepared to pay that sort of money for their car, AND had been for the past few decades, today's Falcon/ Commode/ Camry would look radically different.

It's like people who fork out $50k for a Prius, then exclaim how much better it is than the equivalent $30k Corolla.

NB: The 8 year warranty only covers the battery & drive-unit, hardly bumper to bumper. Nor are they very clear on what that warranty actually means. They warranty that the battery will "work" for 8 years, but at what level? If they guarantee it will still hold 92% of its capacity in 8 years, with new for old replacement, then THAT's impressive. It it's 60% with pro rata reimbursement, then not so much.

In this guys case 34k miles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcVuw8ENIGU
Doesnt really explain the failure though.
Gotta admit thats some pretty awesome customer service too.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Base model is $100,000 and EVERYTHING is an optional extra.
For that sort of money it would have to be extraordinarily special.

Whilst those "performance" numbers are impressive, I wonder how far the battery would last if you actually drove like that?

It is utterly ridiculous to point at a $100,000 car and exclaim its technological virtues. IF people were prepared to pay that sort of money for their car, AND had been for the past few decades, today's Falcon/ Commode/ Camry would look radically different.

It's like people who fork out $50k for a Prius, then exclaim how much better it is than the equivalent $30k Corolla.

NB: The 8 year warranty only covers the battery & drive-unit, hardly bumper to bumper. Nor are they very clear on what that warranty actually means. They warranty that the battery will "work" for 8 years, but at what level? If they guarantee it will still hold 92% of its capacity in 8 years, with new for old replacement, then THAT's impressive. It it's 60% with pro rata reimbursement, then not so much.

Plenty of people pay that for a BMW, Mercedes or Audi etc. I don't see the issue. It is marketed as a premium car with a price tag to reflect that.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Plenty of people pay that for a BMW, Mercedes or Audi etc. I don't see the issue. It is marketed as a premium car with a price tag to reflect that.

No, "plenty" of people don't.
And it is definitely NOT marketed as a premium car. Anything remotely "premium" is an optional extra.

It's a green phallus extension for those who find the Prius doesn't make them look like a big enough merchant-banker.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

It's a green phallus extension for those who find the Prius doesn't make them look like a big enough merchant-banker.

Doesn't matter. If Tesla have done done their market research (and I'm sure they have) they have priced their product to what the market will pay.

A new car here can set you back between 8k for the J1 Cherry to a neat Million for a drop top Rolls Royce. Is the RR 125 times 'better' than the Cherry?

Not everyone buys on 'value' or 'bang for your buck' motives.

All those merchant-banker types who have begrudgingly driven their Prius around while contemplating how to enlarge their manhood now have an alternative...

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

A new car here can set you back between 8k for the J1 Cherry to a neat Million for a drop top Rolls Royce. Is the RR 125 times 'better' than the Cherry?

Is that a trick question?

[naddis01]

I guess we have different definitions of plenty. Maybe the Germans should pull out of Australia. So if it's not aimed as a premium product, what market are they aiming for?

You don't like it good for you but to bag it because it is different demonstrates a few things.

[Crazy Dazz]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I guess we have different definitions of plenty. Maybe the Germans should pull out of Australia. So if it's not aimed as a premium product, what market are they aiming for?

You don't like it good for you but to bag it because it is different demonstrates a few things.

Tesla is as welcome to make a buck as the next company, and there is obviously big money in phallic extensions.
I'm not bagging the car, which is technologically innovative.
I am BAGGING any twat that would pay $100k for one, just so they could impress other twats with how green they are.
Try not to take it so personally.

[Polyal]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Tesla is as welcome to make a buck as the next company, and there is obviously big money in phallic extensions.
I'm not bagging the car, which is technologically innovative.
I am BAGGING any twat that would pay $100k for one, just so they could impress other twats with how green they are.
Try not to take it so personally.

Seriously need a filter or something so we can weed out the close minded bogan comments that seem to be flowing from Northern (regional) Australia.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by Crazy Dazz

Tesla is as welcome to make a buck as the next company, and there is obviously big money in phallic extensions.
I'm not bagging the car, which is technologically innovative.
I am BAGGING any twat that would pay $100k for one, just so they could impress other twats with how green they are.
Try not to take it so personally.

So people paying $100k plus for a GTF are just making up for a deficiency in the pants department as well then?

[Rickv3]

On Tesla Australia's website, in the fine print towards the end of the specs, they talk about reduced battery range if you opt for the 21" wheels/tyres vs the 19" package. Why? Does it require more energy to rotate a 21" wheel vs 19"?
21 v 19 inch wheels.pdf

[mik]

Originally Posted by Rickv3

On Tesla Australia's website, in the fine print towards the end of the specs, they talk about reduced battery range if you opt for the 21" wheels/tyres vs the 19" package. Why? Does it require more energy to rotate a 21" wheel vs 19"?
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my guess would be because a 21 inch wheel is heavier than a 19", every bit of weight requires energy to move it.

[tranquilized]

Haters are gonna hate.

These are the ultimate have your cake and eat it too machines for those living in urban areas. (so about 90% of Australians then)

I'd have one any day of the week.