Name your EV poison

johntolhurst · 12-05-2018, 11:02 PM

I thought it might be interesting to see what kind of Electric Vehicle people might imagine buying. Assume purchase price is 10% below the equivalent petrol or diesel or LPG version.

What I'm interested in would probly be a small sporty 4 door for getting around town. I would want to pay no more than $15k for this, so I might wait a while for it.

Or would you say hang it, and just go driverless taxi?

roKWiz · 13-05-2018, 08:17 AM

For getting around town an electric Greenspeed trike or an electric train.

**DJR-351** · 13-05-2018, 08:59 AM

When they come up with an EV that can compete with or exceed in the ability of vehicles needed for the activities in the below link i may consider one, i seriously doubt it will happen in my lifetime though.....

https://www.hemamaps.com/the-kimberley/tracks

Edit: I avoid cities like the plague so if i needed to go there i would taxi/train or bus it........

naddis01 · 13-05-2018, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJR-351

When they come up with an EV that can compete with or exceed in the ability of vehicles needed for the activities in the below link i may consider one, i seriously doubt it will happen in my lifetime though.....

https://www.hemamaps.com/the-kimberley/tracks

Edit: I avoid cities like the plague so if i needed to go there i would taxi/train or bus it........

This... http://bollingermotors.com/

Plus a generator?

**DJR-351** · 13-05-2018, 09:57 AM

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This... http://bollingermotors.com/

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Plus a generator?

Lol, yeah doesn't even come close to been any good for disappearing out bush for a couple of weeks does it, you would need a tanker of fuel just to keep up with the generator needs......

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60 kWh or 100 kWh Energy Storage
120 Mile or 200 Mile Range
67.4 est. MPGe
Charge Time 60 kWh (from fully depleted) Level 2 (220v): 7 hours
Charge Time 100 kWh (from fully depleted) Level 2 (220v): 12 hours
DC charging compatible

Brazen · 13-05-2018, 09:46 AM

If I get a EV it will be a mid sized SUV (Rav4, XTrail sized) Something with at least 500km range. Budget no more than $50k. Ideal range would be 800km but can survive on 500km if there is a good interstate charging network in place. I may be waiting a while for those specs and price.

johntolhurst · 13-05-2018, 09:54 AM

Are you ninety? ��

System performance is not the issue. For FWD fun you need torque at any died, especially low speed. Well, EV is perfect for that. So it's price then, and with the Nissan leaf at$35k next year and battery prices falling at something like 20% per year it doesn't take many years.

Range is a serious problem though if you want to go where there's no infrastructure.

My imagination suggests trailers that unfold to present 80m2 of soar panels. And soar panel trailers so big they can collect enough juice to power a combine harvester. Okay, I admit that is a bit far-fetched.

Maka · 13-05-2018, 10:21 AM

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Are you ninety? ��

System performance is not the issue. For FWD fun you need torque at any died, especially low speed. Well, EV is perfect for that. So it's price then, and with the Nissan leaf at$35k next year and battery prices falling at something like 20% per year it doesn't take many years.

Range is a serious problem though if you want to go where there's no infrastructure.

My imagination suggests trailers that unfold to present 80m2 of soar panels. And soar panel trailers so big they can collect enough juice to power a combine harvester. Okay, I admit that is a bit far-fetched.

Whats wrong with a onboard generator etc to self charge as you drive, its not rocket science lol.

I guess that idea is reserved only for the high end ev's etc because the charging station makers & owners would miss out on the new El Dorado.. This is another thread material imo lol.

cheers, Maka

johntolhurst · 13-05-2018, 10:04 AM

You could think about converting something you love.

http://www.cnqsmotor.com/en/article_...0Kits/567.html

Maka · 13-05-2018, 10:26 AM

I would convert a AU Falcon first etc when the time comes with something that self charges absolutely for sure, if not available i will invent it definitely.

I would look at it as a business opportunity probably if successful & cheap to do.

cheers, Maka

XByoot · 13-05-2018, 11:20 AM

I commute regularly around 90km to work each way. The car park won’t have any charge points. IF they did I would be paying a premium, I have to pay extra to use this particular car park already. I live in an apartment with common underground parking, I seriously doubt charge points would be installed anytime soon, even then it will be at a premium. I can’t really see it working for me in the near future.
Sure for city commuter work I see the EV advantage, the day will come and it’s a good thing, but there still will be the usual traffic hassles, I’ll just jump in the train thanks and keep my ICE cars for the commute to work.
If your an inner city hipster living the life with a Ned Kelly beard and a smashed avo salad then perhaps it’s worth trading in the Prius and making the statement with an EV.

**GasoLane** · 13-05-2018, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Maka

I would convert a AU Falcon first etc when the time comes with something that self charges absolutely for sure, if not available i will invent it definitely.

I would look at it as a business opportunity probably if successful & cheap to do.

cheers, Maka

How about a B series instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORfYWPzib4

**Rallye Sport** · 13-05-2018, 12:45 PM

As the op stated it'll be used around town.
I've driven a few EV's now, its turning into a hobby of mine, for a small city car the Leaf was by far the best. Not up with the second hand market but getting one for 15k might be a push.
Noticing more and more charging points popping up in public places but I think the convenience is compromised by charging times, a home charge point would be the only way for the time being.

XByoot · 13-05-2018, 01:14 PM

What I’d really like to see is high utilisation city vehicles go electric first. Eg Busses, small delivery trucks and cabs. Oh and maybe Harley’s , that noise they make with straight pipes is pure rubbish!
Seems to me city busses are so noisy, the reduction in city noise pollution alone would be a great benefit, let alone emissions. Maybe we can convert Au’s to EV and return them to taxi use!

jmack · 13-05-2018, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by XByoot

What I’d really like to see is high utilisation city vehicles go electric first. Eg Busses, small delivery trucks and cabs. Oh and maybe Harley’s , that noise they make with straight pipes is pure rubbish!
Seems to me city busses are so noisy, the reduction in city noise pollution alone would be a great benefit, let alone emissions. Maybe we can convert Au’s to EV and return them to taxi use!

but if everything was that quiet you would be able to hear your xb rusting away

**DJR-351** · 13-05-2018, 01:32 PM

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As the op stated it'll be used around town.

Yeah well some of us don't buy a car for all occasions, they need to be able to multitask....

Maka · 13-05-2018, 01:18 PM

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How about a B series instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORfYWPzib4

Thanks for that GasOLane, very interesting & enlightening video for sure!!

The proof of concept is there, i would like to know more about it & the tech behind it. What a fun project for the shed but easier said than done to make it happen happen though.

Outstanding work by the inventor/innovator in NZ, they are great at this sort of backyard tinkering!!

cheers, Maka

johntolhurst · 13-05-2018, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

How about a B series instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORfYWPzib4

I agree those kiwis do some interesting stuff. If they could just fix Thet uksunt theyd make good Aussies. :-)

**Rallye Sport** · 13-05-2018, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by XByoot

Oh and maybe Harley’s , that noise they make with straight pipes is pure rubbish!

Best idea yet, they'd go faster too

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Yeah well some of us don't buy a car for all occasions, they need to be able to multitask....

Fair enough, alot of people get away with small hatchbacks as a sole vehicle, personal circumstances I guess

**DJR-351** · 13-05-2018, 02:47 PM

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Fair enough, alot of people get away with small hatchbacks as a sole vehicle, personal circumstances I guess

For sure, i'm a dyed in the wool bushy so the further off road i can get the better....

Sprintey · 15-05-2018, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

How about a B series instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xORfYWPzib4

That is absolutely epic. Love how the arrangement is in a V formation! There's life in the old Falcons yet...

johntolhurst · 15-05-2018, 12:29 PM

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That is absolutely epic. Love how the arrangement is in a V formation! There's life in the old Falcons yet...

I like how it sound like a high performance electric train. That endless whine is really cool, says to me everything is engaged.

Sprintey · 15-05-2018, 01:01 PM

Yes a bit of noise is nice, evoked a supercharger

**Peuty** · 13-05-2018, 04:18 PM

McLaren P1

**solarite_guy** · 14-05-2018, 04:12 PM

Whatever it might be, I imagine it would be plugged in overnight. If the case, I want one that won't let be drive off while it is still plugged in. Never know what night happen without the first coffee.

jgmdat · 14-05-2018, 07:07 PM

I would probably walk or ride my treddly. Electric cars do nothing for me, no soul. Just my opinion.

XByoot · 14-05-2018, 07:10 PM

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I would probably walk or ride my treddly. Electric cars do nothing for me, no soul. Just my opinion.

Except dodgem cars, they were fun.

**GasoLane** · 14-05-2018, 07:38 PM

Just a thought...

If all your plans go astray and you run out of 'lecktrisity on the road side would the NRMA come out with a carton of Duracell's?

jgmdat · 14-05-2018, 08:51 PM

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Except dodgem cars, they were fun.

Ha Ha forget about the dodgems. Best part was leaving them in reverse for when the next person got in.

Maka · 14-05-2018, 08:05 PM

Here's a look into what driving in Victoria might be like in 2046, I'm a bit suss with a few parts of the article -

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/ro...0180511-p4zer8

cheers, Maka