Why People Buy Camry's..

csv8 · 12-02-2016, 09:47 AM

A girl I work with just bought a Camry Altise 2015. I asked her why?
$27,990 drive away. Guaranteed buy back of $11k after 4 years, 0% interest rate,5 services of $140ea. Roadside assist. etc. Ford need to look at how to sell cars. If Toyota and others can do it, so should Ford?? Servicing is half the Focus price, Ford dont have guaranteed buy back after 4 years. Does Ford have a marketing department?????? Okay, rant over, FF members will say I am knocking Ford again. But, Ford need to look at why their cars aren't selling...

Sioso · 12-02-2016, 09:54 AM

Toyota knows the car will be fine when they get it back because they would only use it to drive to their weekly devonshire tea party or pop up to the arts and craft shop to pick up some new wool for a cardigan they are making.
I have only ever seen one Camry out at Wakefield Park Raceway and I think it was a hire car.

mik · 12-02-2016, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sioso

Toyota knows the car will be fine when they get it back because they would only use it to drive to their weekly devonshire tea party or pop up to the arts and craft shop to pick up some new wool for a cardigan they are making.
I have only ever seen one Camry out at Wakefield Park Raceway and I think it was a hire car.

really .... you think ?
i think its more that people buy them because they know these cars have a bit more effort put into making the cars last longer overall before they need to have repairs done,
if you go back to earlier days and look at how toyota built their cars , a 4 cylinder toyota had bigger bearings in the gearbox than holden v8 , guess which gearboxes failed in short time(hint not the toyota),
you only have to look at the way they are put together to see the whole philosophy of how they build cars is different to many other brands .
look at an early pulsar to a corola , pulsar had cable clutch , corola had hydraulic .
even looking at odd things like a washer bottle for example, the washer bottle in my lexus holds 5 litres of water from memory, the one in my falcon holds about one, there is that build philosophy thing again.
got a small tool kit apart form your basic jack and spare ? my lexus does.

obviously no vehicle is perfect , but , generally toyotas by the numbers are very reliable and attention to detail in the build is good , this is why people buy them imo.

Ford17 · 12-02-2016, 09:58 AM

Wonder what the average age of a new Camry buyer would be?

**Kingsley** · 12-02-2016, 10:01 AM

From what Ive read they're generally ex turbo owners because of the 5 sec quarters they run standard.

**Giant Cranium** · 12-02-2016, 10:06 AM

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From what Ive read they're generally ex turbo owners because of the 5 sec quarters they run standard.

its as though you don't know your white goods! aurions do it in 5 seconds. they have the big bad v6

**Kingsley** · 12-02-2016, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

its as though you don't know your white goods! aurions do it in 5 seconds. they have the big bad v6

My mistake......6 sec qtrs!!

stevefreestyle · 12-02-2016, 10:38 AM

Why do people buy Camry's ? The answer is in how they drive them....totally....Brain Dead !

castellan · 12-02-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tempted

How does the old saying go again?

'Camry is the car of choice for people who have given up on life'

My Father in law was boasting to me that the dude he just met standing beside him owns a Camry as well and he pointed out that my wife owns a Camry as well, well I and to correct him that it was in fact a Aurion, then the subject started with, boy do they sure go well, I just walked away.

**Polyal** · 12-02-2016, 10:38 AM

It goes from A to B and has a reputation of not giving any grief. If you are just after transport then isnt that perfect?

Wretched · 12-02-2016, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

It goes from A to B and has a reputation of not giving any grief. If you are just after transport then isnt that perfect?

Precisely.

Do we need to also question why people buy anything they do?
is the question being asked because you don't agree with their decision, the same could be said about anyone's decision to buy anything they have. A number of factors come into it and usually tailored to that individual/family. I wouldn't buy a Camry but I wouldn't degrade anyone who does.

I do agree though that across the fleet, Ford need to better invite people to look at their cars and buy them. Incentives are not there for average buyer.

Big_Daz · 12-02-2016, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Precisely.

Do we need to also question why people buy anything they do?
is the question being asked because you don't agree with their decision, the same could be said about anyone's decision to buy anything they have. A number of factors come into it and usually tailored to that individual/family. I wouldn't buy a Camry but I wouldn't degrade anyone who does.

I do agree though that across the fleet, Ford need to better invite people to look at their cars and buy them. Incentives are not there for average buyer.

Agreed as well... Not everyone is into cars like the people on this forum... It doesn't mean they are brain dead or a menace, it just means they want something to get them from A to B reliably, safely and comfortably.. A Camry, whilst boring as bat **** and a waste of space to someone like me, would fit that bill perfect.. and With cheap servicing, decent finance and a good buy back it will tick the box's of a lot of people who couldn't give a toss about cars

superyob · 13-02-2016, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Precisely.

Do we need to also question why people buy anything they do?
is the question being asked because you don't agree with their decision, the same could be said about anyone's decision to buy anything they have. A number of factors come into it and usually tailored to that individual/family. I wouldn't buy a Camry but I wouldn't degrade anyone who does.

I do agree though that across the fleet, Ford need to better invite people to look at their cars and buy them. Incentives are not there for average buyer.

Human curiosity I suppose. We need to know stuff. If this was a spaghetti lovers forum there would probably be questions asked about why anyone would use ingredient X in their spag bog. Maybe even naked aggression over a kale vs. coriander comparison...

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 12-02-2016, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Yeah.... How dare anybody have an opinion . Oh the audacity!

Here's an idea.

Let's all become brain dead sheep and go out and buy fridge white Camrys. That way everyone can drive the same cars and have the same opinions and we can all be happy and pat each other on the back and live happily ever after.

Oh, the irony!!!!!!

Wretched · 12-02-2016, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Yeah.... How dare anybody have an opinion . Oh the audacity!

Here's an idea.

Let's all become brain dead sheep and go out and buy fridge white Camrys. That way everyone can drive the same cars and have the same opinions and we can all be happy and pat each other on the back and live happily ever after.

Oh the irony of your post. Heard of the pot and the kettle story. You're the star of it.

So, how about you read my post and actually comprehend the post.
Where did I say that we all have to buy Camry's?
Opinions are welcome, never said otherwise, but it is also anyone else's right to buy any car they feel like based on their circumstances without the need for small minded individuals to criticise them.
It'd be like someone else labeling all Falcodore drivers as bogan drunks that cannot string two words together and have an average IQ of single digits. No need to judge someone based on their car.

superyob · 12-02-2016, 01:29 PM

[QUOTE=Wretched;5587201]
It'd be like someone else labeling all Falcodore drivers as bogan drunks that cannot string two words together and have an average IQ of single digits. QUOTE]

Th' cat n the h..

Dammit! I knowed there would be vocabulistic consequences for my auspiciously propitious choice of vernacular..., no wait, vehicular intention...

stig_3754 · 12-02-2016, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Opinions are welcome, yet you and several others continually deride my opinions when I post them.

Hypocrisy is alive and well in this place.

As has been said before, no one said that everyone had to buy Camrys. If you don't want one, don't buy one. Simples!

And here's a healthy tip for you. If you don't want people to continually deride your opinions, maybe you should consider doing the same for others' opinions.

blackf6 · 12-02-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Opinions are welcome, yet you and several others continually deride my opinions when I post them.

Hypocrisy is alive and well in this place.

Maybe chuck this thread in the bar. Have it in the poll on gay and lesbian marriages. For, against, or buys a Camry?

Carrion · 12-02-2016, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeJaVu GT

Maybe chuck this thread in the bar. Have it in the poll on gay and lesbian marriages. For, against, or buys a Camry?

That made me spray beer on my monitor.

nuthin' fancy · 12-02-2016, 08:45 PM

Buying a Camry is like driving the Hume to Sydney, boring, predictable, efficient.

johnson · 12-02-2016, 09:00 PM

the only thing I can say is good car, someone in that budget range buy it.

asagaai · 12-02-2016, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by nuthin' fancy

Buying a Camry is like driving the Hume to Sydney, boring, predictable, efficient.

Did 210 kph in my Camry, and going round a corner at that speed was anything but boring, predictable or efficient. Actually terrifying feeling like I was sitting on and trying to steer a old clapped out spring mattress on wheels,

The Camry was a V6 manual, 99, no luxury gear as I wanted it as light as possible. Rear suspension went and needed replacement, new clutch, few timing belts, roof lining fell in, interior upholstery pulling from doors, rust started on front window roofline (parked it on beach for some 5 years when going to office-so cannot complain).

Did about 330,000 km in it, and the engine and gearbox were bomber, but all the other stuff was budget built.

My wife could not stand to see me still driving in it -she is a bit snobbish with image/cars, but I could just not bear to part with it faded and rusted as it was as I changed oil every 7,000 km and I knew the engine and box were still good, -anyway my daughter was acting on my wife's instructions and totaled it.

Was faster than a lot of cars, but always got flogged by fast v8s.

Ben73 · 12-02-2016, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tempted

Hypocrisy is alive and well in this place.

It is, you seam to be the main offender.
If anyone has an opinion different to yours you can't handle it and have to bring up some random, exaggerated counter argument

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Originally Posted by Wretched

Precisely.

Do we need to also question why people buy anything they do?
is the question being asked because you don't agree with their decision, the same could be said about anyone's decision to buy anything they have. A number of factors come into it and usually tailored to that individual/family. I wouldn't buy a Camry but I wouldn't degrade anyone who does.

I do agree though that across the fleet, Ford need to better invite people to look at their cars and buy them. Incentives are not there for average buyer.

This is a great response by Wretched, but some how you take it as something personal(even though he didn't quote you or mention you at all) and response with something that seams to have nothing to do with Wretched, or any post in this entire thread.

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Originally Posted by tempted

Yeah.... How dare anybody have an opinion . Oh the audacity!

Here's an idea.

Let's all become brain dead sheep and go out and buy fridge white Camrys. That way everyone can drive the same cars and have the same opinions and we can all be happy and pat each other on the back and live happily ever after.

I cannot see how your response to Wretched had anything to do with what he said. It seams like you got offended that someone thought different to you.

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Originally Posted by tempted

There are some funny people on this forum...

You whinge and complain about my posts and attack me for continually coming back to post in the thread, then you post stuff like this to argue about points I have made and expect me to justify my opinions. You can't have it both ways.

Nobody is 'attacking' you because they disagree with your opinions. But if you voice your opinion strongly and people call you out on it for whatever reason, don't be offended and think the world is against you. This is a discussion board, what do you expect? Do you just want to make a post and then have everyone else in the thread reply with
"I agree tempted"
"Oh yeah me too"
"Good post, very true"

Let's all become brain dead sheep and go out and all reply the same thing to the thread
That way everyone can agree with each other and have the same opinions and we can all be happy and pat each other on the back and live happily ever after.

Sorry I got a bit carried away, but I see why people buy Camry's I could never do it myself, but most people don't want something that is fast, or can take roundabouts at 80km/h or has fantastic driving dynamics. So why spend more money on a 'better' car when you personally get nothing else out of it that you wouldn't get out of a Camry.

**Silver Ghia** · 12-02-2016, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

It goes from A to B and has a reputation of not giving any grief. If you are just after transport then isnt that perfect?

This is so, because it has the Toyota badge...

Anything with a Toyota badge is perceived as ultra reliable.

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Originally Posted by csv8

Servicing is half the Focus price,

Last I checked, Toyota still has its servicing schedules at 6 months/10,000kms, whereas Ford has it at 12 mths/15,000kms. Also, Focus is not a direct equivalent to a Camry.

superfly · 12-02-2016, 03:05 PM

I had a rentacar Aurion in NZ some years ago and I quite liked it. The missus didn't, she said it was bland and uninspiring. That is true of the Camry/Aurion. But they are reliable and have great resale values. We test drove one again before buying the XR50. She still hated it. But then again, she's not a big fan of the XR50 either.

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Last I checked, Toyota still has its servicing schedules at 6 months/10,000kms, whereas Ford has it at 12 mths/15,000kms. Also, Focus is not a direct equivalent to a Camry.

Toyota has actually changed it to 9 months/15K due to flack they copped for the 6 month interval. At least, unlike Subaru, they only charged $130 each time. But I think over long ownership, the Toyota would be more expensive to service over the Falcon capped service. Toyota only does capped price servicing for the first 4 services.

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 12-02-2016, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by superfly

Toyota has actually changed it to 9 months/15K due to flack they copped for the 6 month interval. At least, unlike Subaru, they only charged $130 each time. But I think over long ownership, the Toyota would be more expensive to service over the Falcon capped service. Toyota only does capped price servicing for the first 4 services.

Slightly off topic, but I'd love to see the FMECA done to see why one manufacturer thinks that a servicing interval can carry a 9 month elapsed time schedule for their product whilst another identifies a 12 month elapsed time interval for their product, but both for the same quantity operational units (in this case 15000 kilometres).

For those who aren't familiar with FMECA, it stands for Failure Mode Effects and Criticality Analysis, a component of the Reliability Centred Maintenance philosophy.

c_foz · 12-02-2016, 10:54 AM

My manager is one of those people. People buy camry's because they just need to go places and have no interest in how they get to places.. Stay alert around boring cars on the road because the people driving them are much less likely to be alert and focused etc

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Makovic · 12-02-2016, 11:07 AM

Taxi Drivers/Fleets use Camry Hybrids because of their low running costs, such as regenerative braking and 6lt per 100ks. No gearbox repairs. No rear axle servicing. Fewer parts to fail. Extremely quiet and extremely boring vehicles.

Spammy · 12-02-2016, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Makovic

Taxi Drivers/Fleets use Camry Hybrids because of their low running costs, such as regenerative braking and 6lt per 100ks. No gearbox repairs. No rear axle servicing. Fewer parts to fail. Extremely quiet and extremely boring vehicles.

Taxi owners also get cheaper leases on hybrid Camrys as part of a govt backed green initiative.

Express · 12-02-2016, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by stevefreestyle

Why do people buy Camry's ? The answer is in how they drive them....totally....Brain Dead !

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Originally Posted by c_foz

Stay alert around boring cars on the road because the people driving them are much less likely to be alert and focused etc

Seriously?

Stay alert around loud low cars on the road because the people driving them are much more likely to be brain dead hoons.

The stereotyping goes both ways.