What will be the next "Classic"

[grandpa_spec_F6]

So I have been talking with mates and the topic of classic cars came up.

For instance, XA, XB and XC coups could be had for buckleys going back 10 - 15 years ago, now you can't even buy a shell for less thank $10K.

What does everyone think the next "Classic" car will be?

[trippytaka]

Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_au

So I have been talking with mates and the topic of classic cars came up.

For instance, XA, XB and XC coups could be had for buckleys going back 10 - 15 years ago, now you can't even buy a shell for less thank $10K.

What does everyone think the next "Classic" car will be?

Toyota Rukus!

[GTP-814]

XB/XC hardtops, as very hard to find in good condition

[Jim Goose]

Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....

[GT0132]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....

I recall in 1986 doing a diff changeover on my XC on the side of the road with a trolley jack , socket set and a few spanners

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by Jim Goose

Problem is (correct me if im wrong) is that current cars are too difficult to work on.... especially in terms of engine management and its little box of tricks.

How long will a computer last without failing?

You can pull a engine out of a XB in 30mins (if you really tried), whereas how long would it take in a BA or XT?

What about the rear end of an IRS? Was told it takes all day to pull it out if you have to change bushes etc...

What about aftermarket wise? Panels etc....

You could probably pull the I6 out of a BA in the same amount of time if you wanted to. There isn't anything extra to remove save for injector harness and the air intake tubing. The issue is going to be the longevity of the electronics.

And as far as taking all day to pull out an IRS, you need to backhand whoever told you that. 12 bolts, tail-shaft and the hand brake cable can have it on your garage floor in just over an hour. With the right tools of course!

[Road_Warrior]

Keeping on topic though, I think:

The ED XR8 Sprint
The T3 T-series
Any V2 Monaro
Any HSV GTS (particularly the ones with the Harrop or Callaway donk)
Any F6 (maybe XR6 turbos may become collectible after the I6 gets killed but it wont be a classic)
And the FGII FPV V8's. I say this because the FGII should bring the 'total package' to the table to complement the ripper V8 - this may not happen again, especially in the post-2015 world

And the kicker:
Falcon utes, particularly V8 and turbo I6 variants. I am told that regardless of which way Ford goes with the Falcon after 2015, the Falcon ute is a goner.

[buggo]

I think the early XR6/8's (EB-EL)will become valuble in a decade or two. I think alot will be restored as old X-series cars fade away into history.

[blk6t]

The Falcon...

[Ford_The_Win]

Originally Posted by blk6t

The Falcon...

Oooh clever response

I am doubtful they will kill the nameplate though, they'll just stick it on to whatever imported barge takes it's place.

[tweeked]

Monaro,

Not a huge number, mainly V8, two door, good looks, Nameplate

Coupe 4 especially

[sneaky]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Monaro,

Not a huge number, mainly V8, two door, good looks, Nameplate

Coupe 4 especially

hoping the HSV GTO goes up in value a long way. my father in law just bought one so maybe when he is really old i can take it off his hands

[Tucool]

I reckon the B series was a huge leap forward for Ford, it will come from one of those variants..... 40th GT for me.

[El Sucio]

Holden Monaro - particularly HSV variants.
T series AU's - particularly series 3 with the last of the windsors(strokers).
EF and EL Tickfords

Something out of left field - hemi powered Chrysler 300C's?? I think in 30 years time they will draw a renewed hot rodding crowd - maybe see some crazy 2 door convertibles or chopped roof's or something similar?

[spebgtsprint]

Great Wall ute and the newly released Geely - Chinese first edition classics for sure...................

EB/EL GT's, ED Sprint and T3's?? (A bit biased on my behalf though....)

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by spebgtsprint

Great Wall ute and the newly released Geely - Chinese first edition classics for sure...................

EB/EL GT's, ED Sprint and T3's?? (A bit biased on my behalf though....)

Exactly what i was going to post

[spebgtsprint]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Exactly what i was going to post

Really?? You think the Great Wall or Geely will be ultimate classics, like me cool!!!

[DJM83]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Exactly what i was going to post

Also i will ad the RS Focus

[GEE-347]

a lil biased but maybe the T Series

also EB/EL GT?

[2011G6E]

When we owned our XC-update Fairmont GXL, we had the four door trims redone by a very talented old guy. He covered them expertly and even, somehow, redid the little felt circles on the chrome surrounds of the door lock buttons. Took a bit of time to track down a couple of good armrests, but he did an amazing job with them as well.

He said something to me, regarding new cars with thier sculpted and injection moulded interiors, that I always remembered.

"If a man made it, a man can fix it...once you start making absolutely everything, including full door trims, out of one big piece of moulded plastic and complex shapes like a new car has inside, you're just about stuffed."


As for cars, I'd add the VK Calais with the 3.3 EFI Holden motor. The last of anything is always going to be worth something to some collector in years to come.

The trick is to find whatever car you have chosen in as close as possible to original and unmolested condition...or be able to easily return it to such condition.
I remember a full page color advert for motor oil (Castrol?) in Street Machine magazine back in the 1990's, which had some young guy proudly taking a knee beside a gold HK Monaro. The story beside it said something about his grandfather buying it brand new, and then it got passed to him with very few kilometers on the clock. He said "A genuine GTS Bathurst 327 Monaro, a piece of motoring history, all mine!".
So of course he then proceeds to tell how he stripped it down, repainted it, modified the interior, rebuilt and modded the motor, changed the wheels and suspension, and everything else.

Thanks buddy...you've got a nice Monaro...worth maybe a quarter of the value it would have been if you'd have left it alone and kept your greasy mitts off it...

[onfire]

What I constitute as a real classic has to be a vehicle that is some what accessible in a sense to a large percentage of people and still remain special.

It's easy to list cars like the EL GT, the AU T-Series, the ED XR6 Sprint. Yet if you didn't follow the Ford subculture, you wouldn't particularly have a great deal of respect for said cars nor knowledge of them.

The next classic for me is simple: Ford Falcon BA/BF XR6 Turbo & the FPV F6.

Great looks. Power and a complete game changer in a sense at the time. I think, come 20-25 years a lot of older gentlemen will be looking for the final few thousand clean and stock examples.

[RAPID_BA]

I honestly think the el model and the ba\bf model, common place cars now but well regarded for their looks and performance, they have a huge following, over the years they will becomr rarer and rarer and rarer, the following of fans will remain.

Many of us own these models know, we will be paying gor them later to rekindle our youth

[Wretched]

Originally Posted by DJM83

Also i will ad the RS Focus

Add to that any of the 5 cylinder Focus. The engine gave the Focus some character.

[AWD Chaser]

T series for sure!

[XB GS 351 Coupe]

My guess would be:

EB GT, EL GT, EL XR8, BA GT, BF series 2 GT with the GT 40th being the most desirable B series.

But I think the EB GT and EL XR8 is well on its way the others will have to wait a while yet

[jlef5]

EF and EL falcons fairmonts. Monaros. 300C

[blackf6]

Originally Posted by jlef5

EF and EL falcons fairmonts. Monaros. 300C

agreed el fairmont ghia's in v8 i recon.

[BENT_8]

After reading the thread and weighing up the responses i cant help but feel the terms 'Classic' and 'Collectible' have somehow become blurred.

For me a classic is a vehicle which will be looked back on as a model which brought change to its market, a revolutionary step.

For mine, vehicles like the XD (Blackwood) for its complete transformation of the Falcon.
The AU for being so radically advanced it could have been released 10 years later and still fit the market.

As for collectibles, well anything pre XD is already collectible due to scarcity.
ESP's are already fetching good dollars as are VL turbo's, all Brock models, EB/L GT's and ED Sprint's.
E-series XR's always command a premium but i wouldn't consider them collectibles necessarily.
Plenty of post 02 stuff, XR6T's, F6, GT's etc. etc.

For mine, i would like to tuck a low k EL2 XR8 aside for a rainy day as i believe these will be the most sought after non hero model from the era.

[chrisfpv]

There won't be because they'll be all too common.

The classics of today are classics because nobody thought they would be worth something 30+ years on and seeing them isn't an everyday occurance for the average joe. Alot of people these days think that any car from the mid 90's onwards with the words "GT" on it are everyones desire and "must have" vehicle as it's going to be a classic one day without a doubt.

The problem with this is that they may turn out to be wrong if everyones keeping these cars or storing them away. They won't be worth anything in 10 - 15 years from now because when they go to sell there EL or BA GT for eg hoping to make a bundle, they'll have 20 more ads next to theres advertising the same thing

Just my 2c..

[bigsta]

Originally Posted by chrisfpv

There won't be because they'll be all too common.

The classics of today are classics because nobody thought they would be worth something 30+ years on and seeing them isn't an everyday occurance for the average joe. Alot of people these days think that any car from the mid 90's onwards with the words "GT" on it are everyones desire and "must have" vehicle as it's going to be a classic one day without a doubt.

The problem with this is that they may turn out to be wrong if everyones keeping these cars or storing them away. They won't be worth anything in 10 - 15 years from now because when they go to sell there EL or BA GT for eg hoping to make a bundle, they'll have 20 more ads next to theres advertising the same thing

Just my 2c..

But how many ppl really do have the room, will or $$ to tuck away a car for 15-30 years?? ppl have accidents cars become wrecks and go to the wreckers i think the monanro is the main classic from right now that will be sought after hell they already are, any monaro now is worth 3 times the same model SS even though they were similarly priced when new.

I think the 300Z and skyline will be a classic too.

in 30 years i think electric cars will be way more common and petrol cars few (on the roads) and expensive