Super Pursuit first time Quarter times

superpursuit83 · 29-12-2005, 09:49 PM

Hi guys, did my first ever run on the quarter last night. My best time was ET 13.627 sec at 105.14mph.

What do you horsepower guru's think I am really putting down.

I still beleive the ute is capable of 13.5 no worries. (I have to learn more yet)

Still had a ball and cant wait to go back. (I know I can get it right, gees its bloody addictive knowing you can do better)

Will post a time slip if I ever get my scanner to talk to my computer

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Cheers John

xdclevo · 29-12-2005, 10:04 PM

For a heavy car, they run great mph. How was your traction?? Get some more grip and times will tumble more.

superpursuit83 · 29-12-2005, 10:16 PM

Hey thanks man, grip was a bit of a problem, and I am only a novice at this so I will inprove

I ran as I would on street with hard cover, spare tyre etc. Except I was running with 20 psi on rear only in 19" standard GT-P tyres.

I am supposed to have 365 horses at rear I think (dyno sheet in office)

Any way it felt good and I know I can do better. The only thing I might have to do is gat a clutch upgrade. I slipped it half a track on about the 5th run. Thought I was spinning wheels in 3rd at half track :togo:
Video shows a fair bit of smoke at **** end from clutch

Hehe was fun definately going back

superpursuit83 · 29-12-2005, 10:19 PM

Ok scanner stuffed so here is my best,

ET 13.627
Terminal speed 105.14
React: time .258
60' 2.283
330'5.974
660' 8.938
660' Speed 133.91KPH
1000' 11.469

Ta

SpoolMan · 29-12-2005, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by superpursuit83

Ok scanner stuffed so here is my best,

ET 13.627
Terminal speed 105.14
React: time .258
60' 2.283
330'5.974
660' 8.938
660' Speed 133.91KPH
1000' 11.469

Ta

Mate there is heaps left in your ute, you may need drag radials tho...you need to get it off the line quicker. It was your 1st time so you done well.
Keep working on your 60 foot (60' 2.283) get that down and your ET come down...

SpoolMan · 29-12-2005, 10:15 PM

1st time in a manual thats good going congrats......what was your 60 foot time?

X ORSMXR · 29-12-2005, 10:37 PM

Nice time dude what mods has been done to the car...

superpursuit83 · 30-12-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ORSMXR

Nice time dude what mods has been done to the car...

sorry missed your post.

Pacy extractors 4 into 1, 3" Difillipo Cats, Custom 2 1/2" twin system s/s
Cold air intake and K&N filter, larger intake hose and helix spacer,custom tuned to 98ron fuel. And a Ripshift

Oh...... Just clicked over 10,000 km

May go for G&D airbox and bigger throttle body, then retune. Would like to have a little over 290rwkw, so its a boss 290 where it counts

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After that I wil wait till out of warranty and look at force feeding it somehow.

John

Craig · 29-12-2005, 10:39 PM

Not too bad for your first time down there man. Work on getting those sixty footers under 2.00 and your on your way to some real good ET's.

FPV8U · 29-12-2005, 11:13 PM

MPH shows you have the car there to do a good 1/4, pretty good for a 1st timer too well done, im sure you had a ball

jimt3te50 · 29-12-2005, 11:46 PM

did well John- well done mate; had an issue with the car this week, detonating real bad so didn't want to run it; would have liked to have seen your car run mate....

awesome time for a first time out- did you get many runs?

superpursuit83 · 30-12-2005, 12:04 AM

Thanks again guys,
Yeah Jim I got 8 runs in all up, I went backwards for a while but feel improvement now.
Could have got up to 12 in but my clutch was not hooking up properly on the last so I gave my baby a rest.
Let us know when your ready we will go again

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jabba · 30-12-2005, 08:52 AM

a 13.6 first time out, Bloody awesome.... I went to Willowbank last night and the best I could pull was a 13.9. I was dissapointed I was hoping for a 13.6 with all the mods I have.

Quadcams · 30-12-2005, 12:28 PM

Great effort first time mate, as others said get that 60' under 2.00 (will need sticky tyres) and you will do a 12 plenty of room for improvement.

Quadcams · 30-12-2005, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

a 13.6 first time out, Bloody awesome.... I went to Willowbank last night and the best I could pull was a 13.9. I was dissapointed I was hoping for a 13.6 with all the mods I have.

What was the temp (BA) up there jabba?

jabba · 30-12-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowride260

What was the temp (BA) up there jabba?

Dam hot. Here the time slips, im Car 261. Tell me what you think. By the way Pirtecgirl (Tori) Car 222 Has a GT auto with edit exhaust and Paccies, SS inductions and she pounded me in the last 2 races. Not happy Jane. As I have all the above and Underdrives lighten flywheel, 3.73 diff, Of the shelf edit from Chris and my custom air box. my ute is a 5 sp and pulls 237 rwkw.

Quadcams · 30-12-2005, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jabba

Dam hot. Here the time slips, im Car 261. Tell me what you think. By the way Pirtecgirl (Tori) Car 222 Has a GT auto with edit exhaust and Paccies, SS inductions and she pounded me in the last 2 races. Not happy Jane. As I have all the above and Underdrives lighten flywheel, 3.73 diff, Of the shelf edit from Chris and my custom air box. my ute is a 5 sp and pulls 237 rwkw.

What tyres are you using mate as that 60 needs a bit of looking at get that down to a say 2.0 and you will get a 13.6 no worries in those temps.

jabba · 30-12-2005, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowride260

What tyres are you using mate as that 60 needs a bit of looking at get that down to a say 2.0 and you will get a 13.6 no worries in those temps.

Hankook K104 street radials. I am running them at 20 psi

F6 UTE · 30-12-2005, 01:32 PM

Good first run.

I disagree with the others tho. I think your times won't improve a whole lot with the 6spd. Tyres might make a small difference, but the gearing doesn't help us manual drivers. GT and ur ute have a little taller gearing tho, which might be of benefit..

An auto, yes, you would drop a fair bit of time on good tyres.

These big utes are hard to get away cleanly. First needs carefull massaging to get off the line, 2nd can go up in smoke if your too heavy, and a good track will see third hook up.

My best 60' on stock tyres ( 18's ) with road pressure is 2.18.

What kind of revs are you pulling over the line?? I'm hitting the chimes thru 4th gear before the white line.. Going into 5th costs me 1/2 a second as it's a long change.

As an indicator, I ran up 400 rwhp on the APC dyno where u made urs.. and I run 115mph with that tune and a horrid 60' aswell.

goood effort

Quadcams · 30-12-2005, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by F6 UTE

Good first run.

I disagree with the others tho. I think your times won't improve a whole lot with the 6spd. Tyres might make a small difference, but the gearing doesn't help us manual drivers. GT and ur ute have a little taller gearing tho, which might be of benefit..

An auto, yes, you would drop a fair bit of time on good tyres.

These big utes are hard to get away cleanly. First needs carefull massaging to get off the line, 2nd can go up in smoke if your too heavy, and a good track will see third hook up.

My best 60' on stock tyres ( 18's ) with road pressure is 2.18.

What kind of revs are you pulling over the line?? I'm hitting the chimes thru 4th gear before the white line.. Going into 5th costs me 1/2 a second as it's a long change.

As an indicator, I ran up 400 rwhp on the APC dyno where u made urs.. and I run 115mph with that tune and a horrid 60' aswell.

goood effort

You are wrong buddy maybe you need to learn to drive as these 6 speeds have great gearing, mate have a good look at your mph 115 that means with street tyres you have buckley's of getting traction with that power on street tyres, hell mate with that mph you should be doing atleast a low 12 if not a 11. How come i can get consistant mid to low 1.9 60' with a best of 1.816 with a crap gearing 6 speed explain please.
Superpusuite can and possible will get a high 1.9 60' and will get a very respecable ET accordingly. Go figure it out rule of thumb a fact every .1tenth off your 60' take .2 off your ET and that a auto is any different are you on the funny stuff.

superpursuit83 · 30-12-2005, 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowride260

You are wrong buddy maybe you need to learn to drive as these 6 speeds have great gearing, mate have a good look at your mph 115 that means with street tyres you have buckley's of getting traction with that power on street tyres, hell mate with that mph you should be doing atleast a low 12 if not a 11. How come i can get consistant mid to low 1.9 60' with a best of 1.816 with a crap gearing 6 speed explain please.
Superpusuite can and possible will get a high 1.9 60' and will get a very respecable ET accordingly. Go figure it out rule of thumb a fact every .1tenth off your 60' take .2 off your ET and that a auto is any different are you on the funny stuff.

I agree, I still think I can get off the line a whole lot better and get sub 13.5's

F6 UTE · 31-12-2005, 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowride260

You are wrong buddy maybe you need to learn to drive as these 6 speeds have great gearing, mate have a good look at your mph 115 that means with street tyres you have buckley's of getting traction with that power on street tyres, hell mate with that mph you should be doing atleast a low 12 if not a 11. How come i can get consistant mid to low 1.9 60' with a best of 1.816 with a crap gearing 6 speed explain please.
Superpusuite can and possible will get a high 1.9 60' and will get a very respecable ET accordingly. Go figure it out rule of thumb a fact every .1tenth off your 60' take .2 off your ET and that a auto is any different are you on the funny stuff.

mmmm. I have made over 20 passes and every pass is as consistant as buggery. Maybe you should note I am running BOG STOCK DUNLOP tyres at 38psi.

I know with good tyres I can go low 12's, but that isn't in the equation, and i'm not concerned as to how fast my car will go on radials.. If I pull up at the lights, it's a fast car that will go around me..

BTW, my 0-60 mph, as timed on my PDA, which plugs into my OBDII port is 4.32 seconds. Pretty damn good on street rubber, which have turned to the tune of 28,000 km at that time, with 38 psi in them.

Simon from Extreme ran 12.3 @ 120mph with Hankooks and a rip shifter with ~370rwkw in his F6, explain that one??????

I can drive. No doubt.

jimt3te50 · 31-12-2005, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by F6 UTE

mmmm. I have made over 20 passes and every pass is as consistant as buggery. Maybe you should note I am running BOG STOCK DUNLOP tyres at 38psi.

I know with good tyres I can go low 12's, but that isn't in the equation, and i'm not concerned as to how fast my car will go on radials.. If I pull up at the lights, it's a fast car that will go around me..

BTW, my 0-60 mph, as timed on my PDA, which plugs into my OBDII port is 4.32 seconds. Pretty damn good on street rubber, which have turned to the tune of 28,000 km at that time, with 38 psi in them.

Simon from Extreme ran 12.3 @ 120mph with Hankooks and a rip shifter with ~370rwkw in his F6, explain that one??????

I can drive. No doubt.

simon ran the 12.3 in the F6 on Toyo Proxes DOT street tyres- these hook up a lot different to the Hankooks-

I know this because he borrowed my rims to put them on and I was there when he ran it.

Doesn't matter anyway I guess....... I run 275 K104 Hankooks at 38 PSI with no burnout- I would always run in street trim until I get to that elusive stage wher I'd do anything to break an 11 or something......

F6 UTE · 31-12-2005, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jimt3te50

simon ran the 12.3 in the F6 on Toyo Proxes DOT street tyres- these hook up a lot different to the Hankooks-

I know this because he borrowed my rims to put them on and I was there when he ran it.

Doesn't matter anyway I guess....... I run 275 K104 Hankooks at 38 PSI with no burnout- I would always run in street trim until I get to that elusive stage wher I'd do anything to break an 11 or something......

Do they hook up better/worse?? crunch numbers tho. 12.3, 120 mph, 370 rwkw and a rip shifter, on the same tyres his other car with an auto and 280rwkw ran a 12.2 @ 115mph..
manual + power = rubbish times in comparrison to autos'..

Fastest F6 runs 12.0 with 400 rwkw, manual.
Fastest XR6T runs 9.9 with 430 rwkw and a 3 spd.

I'm not bagging anyone, just trying to make ppl understand how hard it is to get low ET's out of manaul equipped cars, especially utes with hard covers. ( + 200kg's on a sedan ) Tyres or not.
Also how good Superpursuit's times are comparative to others, on his street 19" tyres.

Ay Kwinana, I have sen nothing run 115mph that hasn't run an 11, except mine. All on slicks, all autos.
I have never seen a street car on street tyres ( Not drag radials ) run quicker than 115mph.

I have talked to guys who run 11.6's at 112mph on slicks scratch there heads at my ET's.

Half track I demolish anything that has got the jump on me.. From 120kph, i'm just as quick as my mates CBR1000RR who ran 10.87.

I'll take any answer, it just isn't as easy as " Learn to Drive "..

Quadcams · 31-12-2005, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by F6 UTE

mmmm. I have made over 20 passes and every pass is as consistant as buggery. Maybe you should note I am running BOG STOCK DUNLOP tyres at 38psi.

I know with good tyres I can go low 12's, but that isn't in the equation, and i'm not concerned as to how fast my car will go on radials.. If I pull up at the lights, it's a fast car that will go around me..

BTW, my 0-60 mph, as timed on my PDA, which plugs into my OBDII port is 4.32 seconds. Pretty damn good on street rubber, which have turned to the tune of 28,000 km at that time, with 38 psi in them.

Simon from Extreme ran 12.3 @ 120mph with Hankooks and a rip shifter with ~370rwkw in his F6, explain that one??????

I can drive. No doubt.

Mate all i am saying is improve your 60' and your ET will improve dramatically, have a look at Simons 60' mid 1.9.

jabba · 30-12-2005, 02:08 PM

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29deg, 79%h, 1014mB, 2604 RA, (TT) 36deg

Quadcams · 31-12-2005, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jabba

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29deg, 79%h, 1014mB, 2604 RA, (TT) 36deg

Jeez Blueblooded always said how bad your air is up there in summer, mate in those conditionds Ive run a 13.17 but with a 1.90 60' if i did a 2.2 60' would go up to around a 13.7/13.8.

CAMS290 · 30-12-2005, 03:58 PM

Good time for your first run John, and a manual too !!!
I have basically the same mods as you but i run a stall convertor and 4.11's.
I had a minor issue with some torque reductions still in place, but hope to run a 12 something next time out.
I use M/T Et street radials 275/17's and they hook up really well.

superpursuit83 · 30-12-2005, 04:14 PM

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What kind of revs are you pulling over the line?? I'm hitting the chimes thru 4th gear before the white line.. Going into 5th costs me 1/2 a second as it's a long change.

Gday mate, I am shifting at about 5900 but have to grab 4th just a fraction before the line or I hit the fuel cut at 6100. But I think next time out I may shift earlier and stay in my peak torque area.

Off the mark is difficult and as you say needs practice, to get away clean.

I will yell out before I go again

F6 UTE · 30-12-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by superpursuit83

Gday mate, I am shifting at about 5900 but have to grab 4th just a fraction before the line or I hit the fuel cut at 6100. But I think next time out I may shift earlier and stay in my peak torque area.

Off the mark is difficult and as you say needs practice, to get away clean.

I will yell out before I go again

I find it best to drive to your dyno chart, shifting where u make your peak power, regardless of what it is and where the power is made.

No point revving to 5900 if the thing is just making noise..

Oh, and make sure the car is running atleast 2 mins before the run, don't kill it and push it to the line etc. The pcm needs this time to get the sensors up to temp and gather it's info..