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21-06-2010, 05:20 PM | #1 | ||
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Hey guys,
I mentioned in a thread a while back (http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11286787) that Holden had registed a TM for the E3, E4 and E5 series. Well, Holden have just registered two more new TM's: TM1367494: HSVE3 & TM1367497: HSV E SERIES 3 So coupled along with the previous mentioned TM1342237 (picture), I think that its safe to say series 3 is well on its way:
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21-06-2010, 05:22 PM | #2 | ||
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It is due in October and the main focus of it will be Direct Injection LPG.
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21-06-2010, 05:42 PM | #3 | ||
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Will be very interesting.
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21-06-2010, 06:11 PM | #4 | ||
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im a avid holden man but i will not buy anything on gas. i love my big boot.
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21-06-2010, 06:39 PM | #5 | |||
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I wonder if the new bold styling has run its course already. I have a perception that most find it too polarising but I am unsure if this has converted into a sales issue at all. Last I heard they were selling quite well, but that was shortly after launch of the E2.
Launching a new model soon will distract from what FPV are doing which is the usual tactic for HSV. I'm personally not convinced of the LPG models potential to convert. It would actually need to prove to have a performance advantage over the petrol to have any chance I would think. Just being more fuel efficient and greener would not be enough for the target audience but I could be wrong. It’s a bit like when the BAMk2 F6 came out. It’s proved to be much of a muchness over the V8 model in terms of performance. Once there was a clear performance advantage in the BF- FG series the notion of owning a turbo six over the larger V8 went out the window for a large group of FPV buyers.
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21-06-2010, 06:50 PM | #6 | ||
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Wonder if they will make the E3 and 4 even more ugly! E1 was best!!!
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21-06-2010, 07:04 PM | #7 | ||
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I doubt there will be any exterior changes for E3 apart from maybe wheels, it's far too soon.
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21-06-2010, 08:09 PM | #8 | ||
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direct injection lpg. fail.
Their customers and dealerships didnt want it but HSV boss said its coming regardless. go figure.
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21-06-2010, 08:52 PM | #9 | ||
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I think the E2 looks awesome. More wow than E1 and it has street presence that the GT wish it had. I think the F6 has street presence but the GT is too soft looking and blends in.
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I wouldn't exactly say the E2s styling gives it street presence either, more along the lines of train wreck presence.
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22-06-2010, 12:01 AM | #11 | ||
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New models from HSV?
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22-06-2010, 08:56 AM | #12 | ||
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And if the "E3" series fails, then don't worry as they have thought that through.
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edit: double post
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21-06-2010, 09:04 PM | #15 | ||
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e4 and e5 will never happen. they were just made when the e3 trademark was discovered.
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21-06-2010, 09:07 PM | #16 | ||
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Geez. Given that LiLPG is marginally more powerful than Petrol, but costs way less to run (our Territory is converted) I think too many people have their head in the sand re LiLPG, or are too entrenched in the idea that LPG has traditionally meant power loss. You can't argue that running costs are not a factor, even for performance enthusiasts.
In fact, if Ford never offer a LPG I6T or V8, I can't see me being able to buy one again. I could justify the costs of a Petrol V8 in 2003 when it was under $1.00 a Litre - but not now when PULP is nearly always up near $1.50. So LiLPG HSV eh? Who'd have thunk I'd ever be considering one of those in my lifetime. It's a pity it currently looks like a Storm Trooper raped by a Transformer at the front. The rear doesn't look bad though. I wonder if the looks will be tamed on the E3? Lukeyson
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LPG would be available in more places then 95/98 RON wouldn't it? Between Taxi's, Government Subsidies and V8 Petrol 4wd's there would be a lot of cars running on it as it is.
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21-06-2010, 11:16 PM | #18 | ||
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Can we please stop calling it direct injection LPG- it's not direct injection, it's liquid phase port injection. Direct injection is totally different.
Why they convert back to petrol at 100% throttle is a bit beyond me- it almost certainly makes more power on the LPG and it would be another good selling point, to make up for the loss of boot space... |
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22-06-2010, 09:02 AM | #19 | ||
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The new HSV GTS with Li LPG... Yawn
while on the other side of the fence FPV GT with a new Supercharged 5.0L V8 producing 3XX kw.. Don't think it will hurt or take away from the Coyote launch if LPG is the best thing going for them. |
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22-06-2010, 09:04 AM | #20 | ||
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E3 will just get the updated dash.. They will have some unhappy customers if they do too much, E2 isnt even 12 month old!
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I am not certain this thought process is entertained at HSV all that often. The LPG thing will be interesting to watch. I guess it’s a bit like the Eco boost four from Ford. When it comes down to it it’s just another alternative for people that are starting to hurt with fuel. It gives those consumers another option instead of leaving the brand for a cheaper running alternative. I could see current owner that live in large cities that don't do much more than commuting embrace this development if it doesn't send the message that they have sold out. The HSV brand image with a mix of social acceptance will appeal to some of that I have no doubt. The interior fix has been a long time coming. Dated from inception and of questionable quality for mine, but yet they still did something better that what Ford currently do. The HSV owners I know who have E1s don’t like the E2 appearance. I think it’s growing on them but it’s too much for even their eyes. It tries too hard but like most modern cars colour choice makes a big difference. If I had to buy a HSV it would be the E2 GTS. Function over form for me. The E2 GTS is a step up no matter what people think about its appearance.
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22-06-2010, 11:44 AM | #25 | ||
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I've worked out what the "E" stands for
Egod thats flippin ugly
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22-06-2010, 12:32 PM | #26 | ||
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Ya, I'd bet your house that it will just be LiLPG and the new interior.
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22-06-2010, 01:45 PM | #27 | ||
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Why does anyone even care? Are any of you looking at buying one?
Have you seen the new Peugot/Renault/Skoda/Giraffe Snot? They are so ugly/boring/whatever that I am not going to buy one but I just thought everyone should know that they are ugly and boring and whatever. There is far too many paranoid shoulders with huge chips. Holden people will love whatever HSV do and Ford people will hate it regardless of how good or bad it it. As it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be........enmity without end. |
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