Buying a new Ford daily?

[zilo]

We got rid of our last Ford 3 years ago.

Really can't see anything worth buying.

Anything I have missed?

(No she doesn't want a Ranger)

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by zilo

We got rid of our last Ford 3 years ago.

Really can't see anything worth buying.

Anything I have missed?

(No she doesn't want a Ranger)

Nah, like you say, they are all junk, don't bother with any Ford.

[prktkljokr]

The luxury Euro cars crap all over what most mainstream manufacturers offer.

Top of the range Escape is nearly $60,000, similar sized in Euro cars, Mercedes A class starts at $51,000, 1 series BMW is under $50,000, both very nice cars, apart from Brand loyalty why would you buy a Escape over a Mercedes or BMW

I purchased a C200 for the wife about 5 years ago, she still hasn't stopped smiling

[fiestaz]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

The luxury Euro cars crap all over what most mainstream manufacturers offer.

Top of the range Escape is nearly $60,000, similar sized in Euro cars, Mercedes A class starts at $51,000, 1 series BMW is under $50,000, both very nice cars, apart from Brand loyalty why would you buy a Escape over a Mercedes or BMW

I purchased a C200 for the wife about 5 years ago, she still hasn't stopped smiling

If you were after a mid size SUV why would you want a small hatchback instead from merc or bmw? The comparison makes zero sense.

And if you follow mainstream manufacturers, you might realise the gap has closed quite a lot.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by fiestaz

If you were after a mid size SUV why would you want a small hatchback instead from merc or bmw? The comparison makes zero sense.

And if you follow mainstream manufacturers, you might realise the gap has closed quite a lot.

Actually we were just after a car, we sampled plenty of cars in our price range and below, the Euros I am afraid are the better choice, Plus we purchased a Sedan not a hatchback.

Its a personal choice, It may not make sense to you, but it did to me.

Mainstream offer plenty of choice, but bang for buck and overall level of finish and feel the Euros for us were perfect, whereas the mainstream are a little behind and very plastic.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by fiestaz

If you were after a mid size SUV why would you want a small hatchback instead from merc or bmw? The comparison makes zero sense.

And if you follow mainstream manufacturers, you might realise the gap has closed quite a lot.

Actually I think what happened with Ford of Europe is that Merc and Bmw decided to full range their cars bringing out smaller cars just above Fords small car range. How has Ford responded. Its killed off Focus and Fiesta as people moved on in some cases to Name Euro s.
Merc and Bmw ate Fords lunch.

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by kevino

Actually I think what happened with Ford of Europe is that Merc and Bmw decided to full range their cars bringing out smaller cars just above Fords small car range. How has Ford responded. Its killed off Focus and Fiesta as people moved on in some cases to Name Euro s.
Merc and Bmw ate Fords lunch.

a pretty good point that.
Once upon a time the Euros had NO small models now look at them.
Hatchbacks/small sedans/small SUV's and mid sizes - they have picked up where others left off ie Ford.
I've mentioned before why is the toy crowd so strong despite all the wrongs and not like they used to be.....Range.
The euro's have good range as well whereas the yanki doodle Blue collar company has shrinked.
Not just them but seems all merican companies withdrew/or lets say retreat more and more from everywhere else but focus on Nth Merica.

How good we're the last Focus/Fiesta models, a sector that is massive yet the japs/koreans/euros keep pulling numbers and Ford couldn't keep in any fight.
The small/mid SUV sectors, again just no where.
Its very sad - since FGX I have not gone to a Ford to date.

[kevino]

PHEV Escape is 60

The two litre petrol Escapes are in the 40 , s and as a drivers car plus power plus torque **** all over the a class and bmw x1.

Anyway just buy a Puma for mainly urban work they are great. I don’t have an issue with a puma on Highway country work but some six v8 prev owners might notice.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by kevino

The two litre petrol Escapes are in the 40 , s and as a drivers car plus power plus torque **** all over the a class and bmw x1.

Have you actually driven a current A class or a BMW, I would say for power and torque, my wifes 1.8 turbo Mercedes was a winner hands down for us when we were in the market for a new car, we drove a lot of mainstream cars including the Escape and nothing came close to the Mercedes feel and power at the time, also bang for buck it was a winner, things might have changed in 5 years but I am converted now, I would buy another Mercedes for the wife without giving it a second thought, only reason I didn't go for a BMW at the time is they didn't want to do a decent trade in on the 2004 V8 Explorer, Mercedes did

Plus the wife is not interested in specs, power or torque, she just wants a nice car to drive.

[asagaai]

Originally Posted by kevino

Anyway just buy a Puma for mainly urban work they are great. I don’t have an issue with a puma on Highway country work but some six v8 prev owners might notice.

Or get the latest Ford Fiesta ST - the 1.5 litre turbo pulls very well on highway. Sits solidly and planted on road like a much larger car, but pulls hard and if our laws allowed it- I would happily cruise for hours on end at 180 kph and feel safe and comfortable doing it on smoother roadways.

[hackney]

Originally Posted by asagaai

Or get the latest Ford Fiesta ST - the 1.5 litre turbo pulls very well on highway. Sits solidly and planted on road like a much larger car, but pulls hard and if our laws allowed it- I would happily cruise for hours on end at 180 kph and feel safe and comfortable doing it on smoother roadways.

Fiesta ST is a ‘cracker’ of a car!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by asagaai

Or get the latest Ford Fiesta ST - the 1.5 litre turbo pulls very well on highway. Sits solidly and planted on road like a much larger car, but pulls hard and if our laws allowed it- I would happily cruise for hours on end at 180 kph and feel safe and comfortable doing it on smoother roadways.

Except they don't sell it or the Focus ST in Australia anymore,

Old man is looking at WRX/i30N as replacement for his WZ Fiesta ST.

[FTE217]

Zilo your pretty cashed up arnt you so begs the question why ask re a Ford ?
Just for convo wise - for a wife daily I agree the Puma looks and sounds the goods around that size, my wife seems to like the look of those when the time to downsize from a CX5 for eg.
What she like and size needed ?
I do agree on the euro root as mentioned.
My 330i has been brilliant and such a nice drive as my daily.


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[kevino]

Have you driven the latest Escape?
Not a five years ago one.

[prktkljokr]

Originally Posted by kevino

Have you driven the latest Escape?
Not a five years ago one.

In my job I get to sample pretty much everything in the market from a Kia Picanto to Porsche and beyond, A lot more of the lower main stream stuff than the exotics I'm sad to say.
I have driven the latest Escape, actually many of them, still not my cup of tea, but I can see the appeal for some, I would still rather a Mercedes or a BMW if I had the choice, but that's me I'm 54, you can have a totally different opinion than I do, what works for me might not sit well for you.

All I can say is for a woman's car to drive, you cant make a decision without sampling the Euros, you will be surprised by the power and handling of them, also the fit and finish is way better than any main stream production car, you don't see too many clearcoat pealing Mercs or BMWs .

I would steer clear of whatever Audi has to offer or VW, but that could be just me, I hate them with a passion

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by prktkljokr

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I would steer clear of whatever Audi has to offer or VW, but that could be just me, I hate them with a passion

+1 I'm anti VAG coalition as well, they're nice when they're under manufacturer warranty but **** them off just before it ends.

When they iced the Fiesta and the Focus it ended Ford as an option for us.

[Dr Smith]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

+1 I'm anti VAG coalition as well, they're nice when they're under manufacturer warranty but **** them off just before it ends.

When they iced the Fiesta and the Focus it ended Ford as an option for us.

My running joke on the VW forums....2nd most popular VW option at time of ordering...the extended warranty...

[kevino]

Passenger in x 1.

Merc a series is a sedan sorry got that confused with that funny little hatch suv they used to do.
Grant you the a series sedan is an ok piece of gear if less power than price by price against base mid level Escape.

[Itsme]

Agree, other than Raptor, Ranger or Everest Ford line up is crap, I'm going to purchase Subaru Outback Tourer XT

[hackney]

The only Ford I would consider is the Puma, cracker of a car, real shame it does not come in a manual like they do in the UK.Other than that, Ford has nothing to offer for me anymore.Japanese & Koreans have the best choice these days.

[kevino]

Yes Ford......listen


Give us a six speed MANUAL puma.

[au2000]

Originally Posted by kevino

Yes Ford......listen


Give us a six speed MANUAL puma.

Can’t do that.. unless it’s a Ranger Puma…

Agreed though, looking at the current line up only things that would tempt me would be maybe a mustang.. not sure yet if I like the 2024 one, this gen Raptor, and the up coming F150 and out of those 3, the 150 would be my top pick, for any other type of car, hatch, suv etc, I’d look at The other brands.. excluding Toyota, Toyota is just too blah for me

[Hulsty]

Just went to the Ford website, outside of 4x4's and Mustang there really is much on offer.... back in 2010 we bought a new WS Fiesta manual, cracker of a car, just to small when we had kids.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by Hulsty

Just went to the Ford website, outside of 4x4's and Mustang there really is much on offer.... .

Yeah..thought I wasn't navigating the site properly and missing some tabs in my browser or some such...

[FTE217]

Ford here has always been hit and miss in the small to medium sectors sadly.
Sometimes some brilliant models but it was all downhill post Laser if my memory serves right.
The Fiestas/Focus's certain ones were brilliant and like the Mondeo always priced above the usual known suspects who also have/had more range, price and better percieved customer service. Customer service has been a huge black mark and players like Hyundai/KIA have picked up their game so much last 20yrs.
We our Oz Ford has become a clone of the USA - pick ups and Mustang and possibly Everest main sellers.
How the cards have fallen over the years, at least they are doing OK but yer choice is very limited and the sign of times how the company runs.

[FTE217]

me 3 re Das Auto, against my grain had my name down for the new Amarok, I've kept going will I or won't I, thankfully I found something that ticked my box's now can forget it.
They make some nice models but its the price you pay during ownership makes it bitter pill more than other brands.

[.:4:.]

One of my brothers friends had one of those tsi vw golfs. Apparently it went pretty good. She offered to sell it cheap to my brother but only once the hybrid rav 4 she ordered arrived. The delivery date for the rav4 went from 8 months to 10 months to 12 to 14. Standard new car stuff these days. So she cancelled that order and the golf did vw stuff and the transmission crapped out. So she traded the golf in and bough an instock volvo ev.

[barra240t]

Originally Posted by zilo

We got rid of our last Ford 3 years ago.

Really can't see anything worth buying.

Anything I have missed?

(No she doesn't want a Ranger)

Are you just pointing out the current Ford range or you actually want to buy a new Ford other than a Ranger? First of all, what are your requirements? Size, space, engine, what are you going to use the car for? Etc Etc. Need more info.

[zilo]

Originally Posted by barra240t

Are you just pointing out the current Ford range or you actually want to buy a new Ford other than a Ranger? First of all, what are your requirements? Size, space, engine, what are you going to use the car for? Etc Etc. Need more info.

car for my wife..needs to carry dogs and be easy to park etc

[Citroënbender]

Sounds like a fair swap.