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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jun 2007
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I have recently bought a 2000 AU II auto. Can someone tell me what the "econ button" does? How does it work? I have tried driving with it in both positions and dont see any difference in economy or shift changes. Any info appreciated. Thanks
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Sales Representative
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Young
Posts: 5,314
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Normally it means that it restricts your top end revs... without the Economy on, you should be able to rev it harder and there for, use more fuel... but thats the theory behind it... i just usually floor it regardless for the same result :P
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Nange Road Warrior
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Narrandera
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I found in my first AU it actually made the transmission more reponsive when economy mode was off. Held gears longer at most throttle applications too.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scarness, Hervey Bay.
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I've done a little testing in my AU3 wagon.
Econ - Better economy by about 1-1.5L/100km, changes up at lower revs, lock up kicks in earlier, holds gears under acceleration MUCH longer NON Econ - Worse economy as above, changes at higher revs, changes smoother, drops gears much sooner, faster and smoother than econ I tend to use econ more often to save the fuel cost. Mind you, if I'm in a rush and have to drive aggresively I'll tend to put it in power mode. |
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Hunter Valley Whine Country
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The one trainspotting detail you missed is that in ECON mode the torque converter locks up in 3rd gear as well as in top. In PWR mode it stays unlocked in 3rd.
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Regular Member
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 263
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All it does is change upshift points a little but has nothing to do with top end revs.
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Goodbye stock AU
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Brisbane
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My transmission dude said that it's better to drive around town with ECON off. He reckons sure it's a bit worse fuel economy but your transmission will last a bit longer.
Don't know if it's B.S or not, but it's worth a try! |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Salamander Bay
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in the BTR the switch has no bearing on if you get 4th or not so if he is still perpetuating the magna story he is living in the past and I wouldn't trust him to fix a roller skate |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
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The mechanic may be correct due to the transmission not changing gears as often or being loaded up in low revs. |
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Regular Member
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Brissy!
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i put my car in econ on the way to the gold coast from brissy etc, but other then that its always off. and if i dont have econ on, on the way to the coast my fuel thingy doest go up like it does on econ.
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: perth w.a
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ive found i get around 40 to 50kms more out of tank in econ mode and the car is alot smoother to drive.....
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Brisvegas
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Mines always on, unless I overtake.
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The Monty
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 1,226
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so in colclusion its better to have econ ingaged for causal driving but.. then again who here honestly ever drives casually ?
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Wondai QLD
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with the fuel prices are heading i think more and more people will be unfortunatly. personally i always drive with econ on.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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stupid question here but does it work for lpg or petrol only? i personally keep mine in power,the auto hasn't seen economy for bout 2 years!
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Glenmore Park NSW.
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Jan 2008
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just your shift pattern is changed with the auto it will change gears earlier with econ engaged, as for economy it is marginal depending on the terain your driving in ie; throttle opening.
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I only switch ECON off when I I load the ute up ... or towing something.
Otherwise it is always on. Oh ... if i am crusing around the 70km/h or below in traffic ... I actually drop the shifter back into 3rd ... stops it from shifting up and down all of the time on me.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Playing silly buggers in the gravel
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Always drive with Econ off.
Drive A LOT of hwy each day and I like having it kick down right away when I want some more speed put on. I found in Econ it takes forever to kickdown. Luckily my drive to and from work is a pretty easy one. Half the way is 110/90/80 zone and the rest is done at about 70. Bout a 45 minute drive. Might try it with Econ on and see if there is a difference in fuel but im highly doubting it as I normally get about the same out of a tank each week no matter what I do. That a mix of taking it easy and cleaning out the cobwebs.
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Regular Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Central VIC
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I've been told by several people (all in the industry) to leave the economy button off. Two different transmission workshops and a few different mechanics. Apparently instead of the converter "slipping" up a gear, or "slipping" down a gear, in power mode it makes a more defined shift. And as previously stated, economy mode short-shifts & holds onto gears longer instead of kicking back. I've also noticed that it just about completely skips 1st gear altogether (gets the car going to about 20km/h then just "slips" on up to 2nd gear).
Saying that, i drive in economy mode all the time, as my AU2 wagon is an absolute bucket of s--t, and would struggle to pull the skin off a rice pudding. Usually if i need/want to go a bit harder i just pull the shifter back into 3rd or even 2nd sometimes. Cheers - Coxy |
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 1,770
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my car put itself into econ mode the other week when i was towing a trailer... then after a couple minutes turned itself off again... anyone know what causes that?
i used to drive around in econ mode all the time... but i used to drive like a grandma... now i do enjoy a spirited squirt of the pedal.. and i leave it off.... |
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Flairs - Truckers Delight
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Brisbane Northside Likes: Opposite Lock
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Chamelion, JC and sly are right. Except i would argue that MY transmission is smoother in econ, but i'm not 100%.
Econ and 3rd and no air con around town (up to and including 60kmh) Econ and 4th and air con on highway (70kmh or above) but thats just me but power/econ don't matter too much, 4th in 60 zones is just stupidity. Would you put a manual in top at anything under highway driving? no! so don't do it with your lovely BTR. Penultimate gear around town boys. Trust me on this one, when i worked with Taxis we did tests and the ones who drove in 3rd around town lasted about 50,000klms longer, and fuel economy differences were undetectable.
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Scarness, Hervey Bay.
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Cheers mate, I'll do my next tank in 3rd around town, will see what fuel difference it makes.
I've taken to using NON ECON near always now... Smoother, cleaner shifts and the near instant kick down is extremely pleasing. Matt. |
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Starter Motor
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1
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I just had the auto transmission serviced and when you drive without econ mode it doesn't seem to change gears just revs high, any ideas?
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