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Old 02-07-2014, 03:56 PM   #1
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Ive had my car on the market for probably 6 - 7 weeks now and have only received a few phone calls / texts which have eventuated into nothing. What is the go at the moment?

I have my carsales setup to watch all the other similar cars to mine and none of them have sold either.

Is it just Territory's that aren't selling at the moment? or what?

I usually have no problem selling cars privately, prepare them and price them correctly and they just go within weeks, but this one is really starting to bother me.

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It is a slow market at the moment, especially in certain types of cars. Reducing price is the easiest way to move something.

It is also typically slow before the end of the financial year, thats why there are sales everywhere.
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It is a slow market at the moment, especially in certain types of cars. Reducing price is the easiest way to move something.

It is also typically slow before the end of the financial year, thats why there are sales everywhere.
Spot on, sold the old mans Mitsu Colt (which had been on the market for 4 months close to the top of its price range) last week by dropping $500 of the price and making it one of the cheapest in SA.

My co worker has been trying to sell his V8 crewman for a year now with no luck even after he dropped the price to well under the market guide.

Market is tight atm and the only things moving are cheap little run abouts
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My apprentice sold hid hiace SBV van last week, dead set dodgy with new tyres and rego. Phone/facebook has rang for a week.
He bought a VT manual wagon-regoed low miles full service history $1800. Contractor purchased the vehicle for a 2 month job-sold it for offers.

cousin purchased a 5.7 jeep in good order from a retired gent, for $2000, swapped it for the last shape courier XLT crew cab in very good order as it was underpowered for a caravan.
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in 2010 I purchased A 2006 BF11 wagon with onroad cost from a dealer for $10 000, most people I know will look at a territory at the same level of depretiation.

My employer has stopped selling cars at low KM because we getting around 30% return.

17 000Km forrester- $23K.---- 70 000KM $9-11 K.
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Sold mine in 2 days, first caller no haggling and mine was at the very top of the market.

Depends on what you've got.

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Ive had my car on the market for probably 6 - 7 weeks now and have only received a few phone calls / texts which have eventuated into nothing. What is the go at the moment?

I have my carsales setup to watch all the other similar cars to mine and none of them have sold either.

Is it just Territory's that aren't selling at the moment? or what?

I usually have no problem selling cars privately, prepare them and price them correctly and they just go within weeks, but this one is really starting to bother me.
It is a buyers market in used cars. Lots of options for the money. You will find that many private sellers want more than a dealers. They look at redbook and expect to get 70% after 2 years . Ones that price their cars 10% over dealer trade in sell quickly .
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It is a buyers market in used cars. Lots of options for the money. You will find that many private sellers want more than a dealers. They look at redbook and expect to get 70% after 2 years . Ones that price their cars 10% over dealer trade in sell quickly .
Well that's where I have priced mine.

And it hasn't sold.

Anyway I guess Ill just have to sit tight, because if I drop it much more I may as well go give it to a dealer then deal with all the BS.
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I know what you mean. Basically the economy's not real good and my understanding is they're having a hard time moving new Territories and Falcons - even at a discount, so you're not going to sell a 3 year old or older one easily unless it is a really good deal for someone. People want a bargain these days so price it cheap and be prepared to let it go for even cheaper if you want it gone. Or cut your losses and trade it.
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Well that's where I have priced mine.

And it hasn't sold.
I think what Sumo meant was "10% over Dealer WHOLESALE valuation" not whatever over-inflated figure they offered as a trade on a new car.

For $25k ($10k less than you're asking) I can get a 2013 Diesel, under a year old, with less than 20k on the clock. Or a 2012 with similar k's to yours from a Dealer.
In the 2nd hand market, people aren't willing to pay a $10k premium for a Ti, especially not RWD.

Even at a dealer, who will try to CHARGE a big premium for a Ti, cars like yours are listing at under $35k drive away.

Your car IS well looked after and has some nice extras, but people search first on price
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I think what Sumo meant was "10% over Dealer WHOLESALE valuation" not whatever over-inflated figure they offered as a trade on a new car.

For $25k ($10k less than you're asking) I can get a 2013 Diesel, under a year old, with less than 20k on the clock. Or a 2012 with similar k's to yours from a Dealer.
In the 2nd hand market, people aren't willing to pay a $10k premium for a Ti, especially not RWD.

Even at a dealer, who will try to CHARGE a big premium for a Ti, cars like yours are listing at under $35k drive away.

Your car IS well looked after and has some nice extras, but people search first on price
Dealer has offered 32 wholesale which I will take.
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Dealer has offered 32 wholesale which I will take.
Is the 3k worth the hassle and your time then ?, you have expressed the hardship in trying to sell privately it might be better to cut your losses and sell to the dealer and move on, if your inclined to do so.
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Dealer has offered 32 wholesale which I will take.
Unfortunately, in the current market, that's a good price.
Obviously your car looks good, which will help the dealer, and some dealers do pay more because they're prepared to work at selling for a higher price.
But the discount dealers would be jobbing it out around 35k, so that's not a lot of meat.

I think June & July are bad months to sell privately, but that's just my opinion

As for 7 seats vs 5, RWD vs AWD, the stealer will ALWAYS tell you that what you HAVE is unpopular but you have to pay EXTRA for what you want.

I've been looking at Turbo Ghias, and frankly I think Ford's pricing of their ToTL models is a giant rip. Unfortunately that comes back to bite YOU in the second hand market. If I didn't want an SY2 Turbo, I'd be buying a TX or TS, and getting Leather fitted.
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Dealer has offered 32 wholesale which I will take.
Go with that then. I would. As people have said there's a lot of used Ford Falcons and Terris around, so if a dealer wants to pay a decent sum go with it.
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Lean times, economic uncertainty, people losing jobs, people not really wanting to spend.
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Lean times, economic uncertainty, people losing jobs, people not really wanting to spend.
My feelings also,don't forget rising cost of borrowing :(
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It's not just cars it's almost everything in the second hand market at the moment. Globalisation and a disposable society to blame, perhaps?
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It's not just cars it's almost everything in the second hand market at the moment. Globalisation and a disposable society to blame, perhaps?
Tell me about it. Trying to sell 2 sofas at the moment on EBAY. In good nick. No reserve and can't even get one bid. They're going to the Salvos on Friday if no takers.
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Tell me about it. Trying to sell 2 sofas at the moment on EBAY. In good nick. No reserve and can't even get one bid. They're going to the Salvos on Friday if no takers.
It's hard, I'm listing good stuff on ebay that I've bought off ebay second hand and now need gone as we are moving and I can't even get a sale at 99 cents. Wish I was in the buyers market rather then the sellers at the moment.
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  • This time of year, makers are running all sorts of specials to move stock, and there are STILL last years models sitting in the NEW car lots. Many people will have rushed to buy in the EOFY sales, but by the end of this month things should be back to normal.
  • Many people will have opted for a new LPG car, or bought one to get converted before the deadline. Again that will resolve.
  • There is a lot of uncertainty out there. People assumed that the economy would rebound under Abbott but we are yet to see it, and people are now waiting to see if the promised repeals of the mining & carbon taxes deliver a boost. (NB: Just stating facts here about peoples perceptions and expectations, this is not a political debate.)
  • There are a LOT of late model Terris around in the 2nd hand market. Heaps of 2013 demos, and a lot of 2011 & 12 coming off 2 year leases.
  • Titaniums and Ghias are a weird market (I'm in the market for a Ghia Turbo.) If you want the leather seats, there's no choice, but it is hard to justify the cost.
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Everything is slow at the moment:

- Construction industry in Victoria
- Retail industry
- Workshops (barely any work around for local business owners)

Cars aren't moving, people aren't buying things off ebay.

Slow patch at the moment I think.

I'm trying to sell stuff on Ebay too and no luck, odd question here and there and I'm priced well under the market.
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No spare cash, confidence in the economy isn't as high as it could be, worry about the jobs market for individuals and their teenage kids.

I'm lucky at the moment, work is still coming in strong. While others in the same trade are slowing down. My partner and I have been thinking about hiring for 4 months but we don't have the confidence in the market. There needs to be changes to give us confidence, instead there is opposition to change.

Today I had three reps come in trying to get me to changeover to them. With promises of painting the whole building and replacing all signage. When I ask why, they tell me it's quiet out their and they've been told to do just about anything to get sales and increase their market exposure.

I hope the confidence comes soon, if not it could bog down and we'll be in for a long slow new financial year.
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I also find depending what car you have. I tried selling a 99 corolla recently and was asking 3500 as it was in perfect condition. No one called and barely anyone was looking at the listings. I had a chat with a relative who works as a salesman at a dealer ship as a salesman. The used car sales have dropped dramatically over the last few years. The current state of the economy does not help either. A lot of people also take out loans or lease brand new cars. Even young people. When i got my first car, the max any of my mates spent was 5k and no one was keen enough on taking loans. Just another sign of life how we know it is changing.
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I was told by a dealer that a 5 seater territory has terrible resale. Same with captiva.

he said 7 seater is a must if you buy new. But he said there is a flood of 3 year old territory in market as most people trade in territory due to poor fuel economy.
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I was told by a dealer that a 5 seater territory has terrible resale. Same with captiva.

he said 7 seater is a must if you buy new. But he said there is a flood of 3 year old territory in market as most people trade in territory due to poor fuel economy.
Mine is a 7 seat and diesel.
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Mine is a 7 seat and diesel.
Ok, 13k but that's it................
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What are you after for your Territory by the way.
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Ill take 35k.
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That's what I was getting when I where selling the mustang last month. And would I trade a caravan/ Harley/ ski boat/ Hilux with mags/ John Deere tractor etc etc.......
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There's 838 Territory's 2009-2012 on carsales.com.au - one thing about Ford's success with the Territory is that the used car market is flooded with them. Doesn't mean everyman is out there waiting for a second hand one, but when they do, they have lots of choice.
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