Wheels Test - Mustang GT Vs SS-V Redline drag race

[mike_nofx]

For those interested Wheels did a drag race with the Mustang GT Vs the Commodore SS-V Redline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fZJSCmLpJg

[PepeLePew]

Ford I may be at heart but that surprised me I thought the Redline would have it going by the claimed times for the LS3 powered SS

[Stefan]

I just don't get these comparisons, why do the continue to compare a 2 door sport car v family sedan.

Why are these the same class of vehicle.

[HO 3]

Yeah not a bad performance from the garden variety 5.0 GT version. Much impressed.

Cheers Mick

[Carrion]

Looks like Wheels is just killing time until they get their hands on a couple of sprints.

[Express]

That doesn’t surprise me at all.

This is want I said when I test drove the Redline sedan for a couple of days late last year in post 131 of Final Commodore LS3 304kw 570nm thread.

Originally Posted by Express

For the last couple of days I’ve been driving a manual demo Redline sedan which started with 35klm on the clock and my thoughts are as follows.


The power output I thought was weak.
The first thing I noticed is I need to give it a few extra revs more than other Commodores I’ve owned to induce a smooth take-off.
Its initial acceleration response from a standing start or while in gear or after a quick downshift then full throttle application feels a little soft but it did get a bit more urgency as the revs increased.
My neighbour thought it was powerful, he drives a Kia so I guess it comes down to what you’re use to but for my way of thinking it a handy hauler but I would never class it as anything close to a ball-tearer.
Having been around LS engines for a long time I have no doubt a tune would unleash its inner beast for those who wish correct the soft tune.

I've never understood why Holden gave it such a soft tune when the engine is capable of much more.

[HO 3]

Originally Posted by Carrion

Looks like Wheels is just killing time until they get their hands on a couple of sprints.

Hopefully they are trying to sharpen up their reaction times when driving a Ford.

Cheers Mick

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I just don't get these comparisons, why do the continue to compare a 2 door sport car v family sedan.

Why are these the same class of vehicle.

Why not? Who gives a rats about different 'classes'... Fact is, if your looking for a v8 unless your a one eyed brand snob then you would look at both.

[4vxc]

Originally Posted by nstg8a

Why not? Who gives a rats about different 'classes'... Fact is, if your looking for a v8 unless your a one eyed brand snob then you would look at both.

I'm not a one eyed brand snob but there's no way on earth I could consider a Holden family sedan compared to the Mustang.
Very cool coupe vs a sedan that's a redo of the original from 2006

[Express]

If you ask me I recon the fellow driving the Holden was being paid by Ford, that’s the only logical conclusion I can come up with.

[Express]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

I'm not a one eyed brand snob but there's no way on earth I could consider a Holden family sedan compared to the Mustang.
Very cool coupe vs a sedan that's a redo of the original from 2006

You would if you had 3 teenage daughters sulking in the back.

[GXL078]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

I'm not a one eyed brand snob but there's no way on earth I could consider a Holden family sedan compared to the Mustang.
Very cool coupe vs a sedan that's a redo of the original from 2006

Think of it as a 4door Monaro. Mmmm, maybe NOT!

[superfly]

Originally Posted by 4vxc

I'm not a one eyed brand snob but there's no way on earth I could consider a Holden family sedan compared to the Mustang.
Very cool coupe vs a sedan that's a redo of the original from 2006

I wouldn't consider a Holden full stop.

[blk6t]

Originally Posted by Stefan

I just don't get these comparisons, why do the continue to compare a 2 door sport car v family sedan.

Why are these the same class of vehicle.

Same could be said if they did a Stang v Sprint test...I like these comparisons, both V8, both RWD, both similar in size so why not. The segment is too small to have an apple vs apple comparison.

[Express]

Yesterday I parked my Redline Ute a couple of bays away from a black Mustang in the empty carpark behind our local shopping strip.

It was a beautiful car and I did have a smile on my face when I saw the driver was probably older than my great grandfather.

When I got out I said to him through the window how nice it looked and he totally ignored me, he must have thought I said, give me all your money.

When I came back with the bread and scones he was outside the car with a woman who I’m guessing was his wife and she was taking photos of my Ute.

I said if I knew there was going to be a photo shoot I would have washed her and all he said was, “where did you buy those wheels?”

I told him and said what a stunner the Mustang was and he said thank you and they got back in their car.

Strange because if it had been mine I would have spent the next hour talking about it to anyone interested in listening.

And wow didn’t it look big next to my little Ute.

Anyway that black Mustang sitting next to my Redline in the carpark did look much faster and that will probably be the closest I’ll ever get to experience its power.

[PepeLePew]

Originally Posted by Express

Anyway that black Mustang sitting next to my Redline in the carpark did look much faster and that will probably be the closest I’ll ever get to experience its power.

Theres always Hertz I saw a black one sitting in Melbourne when i was walking to my bay and thought wahoo then glanced past at the fridge parked in my bay.....

Made me question the existence of God!

[lgpking22]

Look its the dead versus the living one will be dust and nobody will care anymore

[fordomatic]

So let me get this straight, Wheels wont test the XR8 Sprint against the SS-V but they will test it against the Mustang?

I want to see the XR8 Sprint against the SS-V which is its true competitor, not the HSV

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

So let me get this straight, Wheels wont test the XR8 Sprint against the SS-V but they will test it against the Mustang?

I want to see the XR8 Sprint against the SS-V which is its true competitor, not the HSV

They haven't been able to get access to the sprints for a full comparison. ... Remember all the tests that are in Wheels and Motor this month are the Ford launch... They weren't allowed to take them to tracks or run times, and I dare say that bringing an SSV Redline along for a comparison would not have been allowed..

Im sure Motor (Wheels who knows) will compare them.. And even probably add the XR6 Sprint... I cant wait to see the XR's wipe the floor with the SSV..

[XR Martin]

Mustang would be 2-3 tenths quicker also if we had the US spec exhaust.

[asagaai]

Wow- the Mustang seemed to beat the SS-V by a much greater margin than the comparison I have seen between the FGX-XR8 (auto) and the SS-V (manual).

On the basis of that you would think the Mustang would flog the FGX XR8, is it "doctored" video jiggery pockery.....

[Sabantien]

I don't need back seats, I'll take the Mustang!

I'd actually like to see the Mustang up against an XR8 Sprint. Who cares about the commodore?

[MethodX]

Originally Posted by Sabantien

I don't need back seats, I'll take the Mustang!

I'd actually like to see the Mustang up against an XR8 Sprint. Who cares about the commodore?

I care... all the muscle cars from the Big 3 are important.

[SpoolMan]

Any Ford out in front is a good thing..

[Blem]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

Any Ford out in front is a good thing..

Especially if it's an Aussie made T6.

[XtRmn8]

I also don't get the point of the direct comparison....

However I think the Australian motoring journalists should as a tribute to Holden/Ford do a 1000m drag race similar to the one below...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjLJ6i8iYJc

Lineup could be something like this:
- Holden Comodore SV6
- Holden Commodore SS
- Holden Commodore SSVR
- HSV Clubsport LSA
- HSV GTS LSA
- Ford Falcon XR8 Sprint
- Ford Falcon XR6T Sprint
- Ford Mustang GT
- Ford Falcon XR8
- Ford Falcon XR6T
- Ford Falcon XR6

Would be cool to the the GTS and Sprints go head to head over 1000m

[Dr Smith]

I thought it rather obvious no Holden is going to keep up with any Sprint and frankly only HSV's best is going to be some form of competition....even Ford's engineers said HSV was the benchmark for Sprints.

[Dave R]

I'd say part of the gap between them would be due to reaction time, as 13.2 vs 13.4 is certainly not 3 or 4 car lengths that we see in the video. Lots of wheelspin from at least one of them too and only 3km/h between them at the end, so they're closer than the video might suggest. Regardless, both are pretty slow, boosted Falcons still own the drag strip.

[SumoDog68]

In the other new 'stang outselling some big names in Germany ...

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cult...hings-to-come/

[arronm]

I haven't dragged at the strip a lot but it's always been lights not 3,2,1 go. What a joke