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21-01-2007, 04:14 PM | #1 | ||
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I didn,t want to hijack MY GT's thread on the sad loss of his Grand Ma. So I started this. Its kind of related.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...580394,00.html I found it absolutely amazing. I wonder how many people have had the "machines turned off" and knew about it??? Take the time to read it guys...... Cheers all.
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21-01-2007, 05:23 PM | #2 | ||
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i got to the end of the first page...but then i lost consciousness.
seriously, its an amazing and disturbing topic.
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21-01-2007, 09:00 PM | #3 | |||
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21-01-2007, 10:23 PM | #4 | ||
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Personaly I have a hard time believing that their is no 'soul' so to speak. Being able to reduce ones experience to the random firing of nurons, to me, still doesn't explain ones ability to view themselves in the process. It also reduces one's life to being meaningless, as the illusion of choice in your very motion is the result of random collisions and events in our brain, with the result being that you believe that you are the creator and author of those said actions.
In my eyes, you would be a walking talking lie in the above example, and in so, means that everything you do would have no meaning. The very reason that we choose to appreciate anothers actions is that they place a part of themselves in the act. What part of me, is the bit that is able to subjectively view my experience. Where is the bit that allows observe, to observe myself observing. Lets just say for a minute that I am infact the sum total of my brain, and that upon the expiriation of this gray matter, that the sum of my conciousness, now without any 'input' ceases to exist. What a monumental waste of time. I was born for no reason, live for no reason, and died the same way. What purpose does that fill? The function of my consiousness is pointless and redundent. If the point was to fill the globe with humanoids, you could do much MUCH better without this consiousness thing at all. I refuse to believe that a thing like the universe, being so unbelievebly vast and incredibly monumentaly complex, giving birth and life to not just us, but time, space, emotion, thought would throw away the ONE THING that makes it able to exhist at all ... conciousness. Think about this. If a universe exhists, and there's no conciousness there to see it, is it really there.
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22-01-2007, 10:59 AM | #5 | ||
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I think so therefore I am.
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22-01-2007, 11:14 PM | #6 | |||
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If you want to read something that will surely spin your mind, Read this
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24-01-2007, 12:43 AM | #7 | |||
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22-01-2007, 12:15 PM | #8 | ||
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Couldnt stop reading. Great find OBJ, thankyou.
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22-01-2007, 12:31 PM | #9 | ||
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Interesting read. I suppose the one problem we face is we can only measure/manipulate something with physical existance whereas a soul does not have a physical existance.
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22-01-2007, 02:00 PM | #10 | ||
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interesting read, good find
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22-01-2007, 02:26 PM | #11 | ||
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great read, really makes you think...
**pun intended**
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22-01-2007, 03:12 PM | #12 | ||
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Bugger reading all that, I'll wait til it comes out on DVD...... but seeing as some of you have taken the time to read it, does it have an suggestion for how thoughts are presented inside your head?
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22-01-2007, 04:41 PM | #13 | |||
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22-01-2007, 04:49 PM | #14 | ||
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Was waiting for that......
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These are the parts I find most interesting to ponder.
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24-01-2007, 12:51 AM | #16 | ||
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a few things to think about .
when i had an operation going under anesthetic . i wanted to experiance everything. going under i wanted to experiance the exact second of going out . i didn't get to experiance it , as i dont remember the exact second. when i woke up it was to someone calling my name . ( a nurse) i remember it exactly . it was like a tv screen coming on like the old ones used to . i remember telling the nurse i love you baby, as if it was my wife . i had no pain at all, and then pain came slowly on , until it was unbearable . then 3 doses of morphine paralysing me , but the pain was still everybit there . i recently got my dog put down, in my arms . they give them 10 x the amount of anesthetic to kill them . the dog died in about 3 seconds . but brethed for about one minute without a heartbeat. WHY ?????? |
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24-01-2007, 05:24 PM | #17 | ||
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yeah a guy at work belives in all that mumbo jumbo, its great and all but i want to see first hand proof and until then im no beliver
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