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12-08-2009, 01:19 AM | #1 | |||
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Second car line ‘saved Holden’
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12-08-2009, 06:38 AM | #2 | ||
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"“It has been a near-death experience for Holden, but it has bounced back in the most aggressive and the most successful manner possible,” Mr Foley said."
I didn't know begging for money from the Government cause the banks won't lend to you was considered 'the most successful manner possible'. |
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12-08-2009, 08:43 AM | #3 | |||
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Possible measures of success: 1. Selling GM bonds (they have been worth bugger all for a long time) 2. Selling stock (bugger all again) 3. Loan against assets (note that #1 and #2 are effectively this, but its more explicit) 4. Selling assets 5. Begging for money 6. File for protection 7. Shutdown company. So, i think that in the literal sense, it was the most successful, cos they managed to not make it to #7. Plx note, my list is just off the top of my head...not completly sure of its accuracy. |
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12-08-2009, 11:36 AM | #4 | ||
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One does have to wonder why Holden have the opinion that a small car is profitable (& a saver) & Ford has the opinion it is unprofitable (& irresponsible). One of the two is wrong, but I guess time will tell which one has it right?
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12-08-2009, 01:43 PM | #5 | |||
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Ford's thinking Global. There's no point in building a car here when it can be done elsewhere for less. You can guess which will be more profitable long term, but having said that, it doesn't help justify the Australian Auto Industry.
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12-08-2009, 07:43 PM | #6 | ||
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Why am I surprised.
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12-08-2009, 09:30 PM | #7 | ||
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How much cheaper is a small car to produce than big car?
Phtt! How much cheaper is a small car to buy than a big car? Similar production costs (probably les r & d tho) and lower profit margin. See John Carey (dep Ed of Wheels for his scathing analysis of Holdens' optomistic plans) I have nothing but derision for this idea. Either the car will be built down to a price (methinkso) or will not be profitable in the longer term. |
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12-08-2009, 11:44 PM | #8 | |||
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13-08-2009, 09:02 AM | #9 | ||
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Holden's reliance on federal funds, the export program, the model lineup.
Smells like another Mitsubishi prop-up to me. They can always become a net importer like all the other failed car companies in Aus i suppose. |
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13-08-2009, 09:32 AM | #10 | ||
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Got to hand it to their marketing dept though.
Second car line ‘saved Holden’ That's a great headline to have a few weeks after Ford dump their second (small) car plans. Subliminal message to public - Holden will survive, Ford will not. Time will tell but Holden have again won the immediate PR war.
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13-08-2009, 09:50 AM | #11 | ||
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Assuming Ford Oz's plans work (I think they will), I wonder how long it will be before Holden's PR spin becomes irrelevant?
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