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Old 27-04-2008, 05:02 PM   #1
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Default Mazda 6 Vs mazda 3.

Hi guy's I will be looking to upgrade my little Laser shortly and I was looking at a mazda 3 sp23 sedan, but after researching I have thought about the mazda 6 luxury sport's, only as you get the bigger engine and more space and more power for very little difference in ecomomy, oh and the sunroof option in the mazda 6, anyway my main concern is the ecomomy out of them, as I want it to be very good just like the vehicle it will be replacing, as it is a daily driven vehicle for me and the g/f, has anybody got one or know of someone that does and know how they perform, I will be looking at the 6manual but if a good 5auto comes along I will look into it closely but the manual is my prefrence, I am looking to buy 2nd hand as well, not new as they are pretty expensive, but any info on them would be good, or review's, thank's.

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Old 27-04-2008, 05:06 PM   #2
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You should really use fullstops and not just commas.

Anyway, I've driven the 6 and I own a Focus. I reckon its not too bad. Economy-wise, it does pretty good but with that class of engine, it always depends on what your driving conditions are. Power wise its pretty good but I reckon my Focus has more go but thats only because its lighter.

I always recommend manual unless you know you will be driving in city conditions only. Autos will use more fuel but it is better in start-stop traffic. Its just a convenience thing really.
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would you belive it or not the fuel is exactly the same in a mazda 3 and mazda 6 i would go for the mazda 6 because they are about the same price and you get more room. My aunty has a mazda 6 and a mazda 3 and they both use the same amount of fuel and i think the mazda 6 looks better and the mazda 6 are a fantastic little car. I keep telling my aunty to buy a ford and she says i dont want crap lol

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would you belive it or no the fuel is exactly the same in a mazda 3 and mazda 6 i would go for the mazda 6 because they are about the same price and you get more room. My unty has a mazda 6 and a mazda 3 and they both use the same amount of fuel and i think the mazda 6 looks better and the mazda 6 are a fantastic little car. I keep telling my unty to buy a ford and she says i dont want crap lol
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Old 27-04-2008, 05:25 PM   #5
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My GF has a mazda 3 auto, zippy little thing for the size of it etc. Fuel economy on the highway is good, revs sit high imo, around town fuel wise its what id expect from a 4 cylider i spose. Its had a few problems with gearbox clunking and the rear brakes are sticking causing the rear pads to wear quite fast. Only small problems but none the less problems.
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Old 27-04-2008, 05:39 PM   #6
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galaxy xr8; the 3 SP23 and 6 both have the same engine, the 2.3L (hence sp23). I think the 6 has a higher state of tune though (i.e. slightly more power).

I'd say drive both and see which you prefer.

A guy at work has a 3 SP23 and I have been for a ride in it. It's pretty zippy, but I was only a passenger, it was towing a trailer and I'm used to a 220+ kw V8 so I'm probably not the best judge. From memory he was reasonably impressed with the acceleration but I dont think he exactly considers it frugal in the consuption department. But then he came from a VTII SS so he was used to a bit more poke too.

He recently bought a VX Clubby and the Mazda is now the second car, meaning he gets the clubby when his misses lets him drive it lol.
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galaxy xr8; the 3 SP23 and 6 both have the same engine, the 2.3L (hence sp23). I think the 6 has a higher state of tune though (i.e. slightly more power).

I'd say drive both and see which you prefer.

A guy at work has a 3 SP23 and I have been for a ride in it. It's pretty zippy, but I was only a passenger, it was towing a trailer and I'm used to a 220+ kw V8 so I'm probably not the best judge. From memory he was reasonably impressed with the acceleration but I don't think he exactly considers it frugal in the consumption department. But then he came from a VTII SS so he was used to a bit more poke too.

He recently bought a VX Clubby and the Mazda is now the second car, meaning he gets the clubby when his misses lets him drive it lol.
The Mazda 6 recommends PULP as a result of that higher state of tune, so if running costs are an issue to a degree, points would have to go to the SP23. The SP23 requires only regular unleaded and runs 7kw less I think.
What are your priorities GalaxyXR8? More interior/load space or smaller/lighter? I myself have looked at the Mazda 6 and Mazda3 SP23 because I've chosen the SP23 (2nd hand) when I buy my next car. The Mazda 3, while obviously not as big as the 6 follows the trend of many smaller cars and has a higher roofline. I find many of the newer larger cars to have a sweeping roofline which makes headroom limited for me at 6' 2" and driving with the seat fairly upright. I find room to spare in the 3. This was a big surprise when I found this out at the motor show and pretty much swayed me from the 6. I've only owned Falcons because I wanted a bit of space and now there's small/medium cars can satisfy my requirements. Combine that with a moderately powered engine in a relatively light car and it's almost as quick as my EL XR6.

For the same $$$ as an SP23 - which is the 2nd top model in the range, you'd get less with the 6
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One of my friends has the 3 SP23.
She wanted the extra buttons and leather interior that came with it, but she really enjoys it.
She doesn't drive it like a granny, but still gets pretty decent fuel consumption out of it.
Her twin sister bought a new hatch shaped Impreza RX and says the SP23 has much better pick up than the Suby.
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For the same amount of $$$'s you'll get more in a 3 than you will a 6. Both are very nice cars and i'm sure you'll be happy with either. But, if it was me buying I'd be going for the 3 I think the sedan looks great!
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My Dad has an 03 Mazda 323 Astina Shades and its fine to drive, it gets you from A-B cheaply. Its getting a tad bit weak with its neglect and high ks on it.
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I must say i like the look of the new mazda 6, the wagon looks great! A set of 20 inch wheels and some lowereing would make for a decent runabout.
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Bought a 3 about 9 months ago, they really are a very nice ride.
Build quality is very good, won't comment on reliability as this vehicle is still like new with very low ks but going by previous Mazda ownership I would expect it to be very good.

Not cheap for a small car but you get what you pay for.

Both nice vehicles but out of the two I would go the SP23 sedan.
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Bought a 3 about 9 months ago, they really are a very nice ride.
Build quality is very good, won't comment on reliability as this vehicle is still like new with very low ks but going by previous Mazda ownership I would expect it to be very good.

Not cheap for a small car but you get what you pay for.

Both nice vehicles but out of the two I would go the SP23 sedan.
Dad has had his new since 2003, 180,000km and only serviced once at the 40,000km mark, it drives still though a bit weak and makes a weird noise up to 4th gear. They are reliable as.
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My Wife has had 2 Mazda 6's (has one now) & they are Great Vehicles

Stepping from my Ute into her 6 the feeling is of a very Zippy & Great Handling Car.
On the same stretch of Bumpy winding road I get to 120 k's before I know it using about Half Throttle through the first 4 gears (in the 6) while in My Ute I would have to make a Conscious Effort to get to 120 & I would know it also as would have to Hang on to it to get around the bends, hers it feels like mine does at 80 on this piece of road.
Mine of course has more Acceleration under Full Throttle.
Economy on her last trip with only approx 7000 k's on Odo was an average of 6.8l/ 100 k's HWY Mainly.
The 6 Speed Manual is so Smooth as well.
We have also driven a 3 & were Impressed with it also though the 6 has more room & feels like a Medium to Large car while in a 3 you know it is a small car.
Oh hers is a Mid Range Model & comes fully Loaded, all that is Missing is leather & a Sunroof.
Oh she runs it on 95 Octane Ethanol Fuel as well as after checking we found it is ok to run it on this Fuel Type.
Go for the 6 Her car in Pic at Dealers.

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I used to have a Mazda6 Luxury Sport, which I sold to my Brother. The Mazda was a great car, however the fuel economy, combined with the need for Premium fuel makes a Falcon's fuel economy very comparable. The only thing I miss from my Mazda is the Leather seats. Nothing else. It didn't go particularly well, it did handle (and belied its FWD origins), but I still think I made the right decision in getting rid of it.

The SP23 and Mazda6 have the same engine, with basic changes to breathing - the 6 has full length dual pipes, and the 3 has a single. There are torque and power deficiencies, however the 3 is a lighter car, and that is not noticeable. Your choice depends on what you want. If you need a larger car, get a Mazda6. If you want something small, and, whilst not quick, but zippy, get the SP23. Either way, they are both well built, reliable cars, that will go forever.
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I used to have a Mazda6 Luxury Sport, which I sold to my Brother. The Mazda was a great car, however the fuel economy, combined with the need for Premium fuel makes a Falcon's fuel economy very comparable.
Yes you have to use 95 or higher Octane however as I have said you can run a 10% 95 Octane Fuel in it which is cheaper than 91 Unleaded & also I have an I6 & Wife has a 6 & I can tell you I fill up much more often than she does lol

I think on Her last trip to Parents place (Wauchope-Lismore) she would have made it up & back on 1 tank if she had not taken a few trips around Lismore to see her Sister etc who lives approx 20 k's away from Town.

So you do the Maths, no Falcon can get that sort of Economy :(
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Yes you have to use 95 or higher Octane however as I have said you can run a 10% 95 Octane Fuel in it which is cheaper than 91 Unleaded & also I have an I6 & Wife has a 6 & I can tell you I fill up much more often than she does lol

I think on Her last trip to Parents place (Wauchope-Lismore) she would have made it up & back on 1 tank if she had not taken a few trips around Lismore to see her Sister etc who lives approx 20 k's away from Town.

So you do the Maths, no Falcon can get that sort of Economy :(
Mine was the 5A, and it wasn't exactly babied when I drove it.

I do not like Ethanol. I never have, and will avoid it at all costs. Sure, real fuel costs more, however I was happy knowing that I wasn't putting something that I wasn't comfortable with in the tank.

I struggled to get 500 out of the tank, where I can just squeeze 550-600 out of my Falcon. Both cars do the same trip (Sutherland Shire to Wollongong), however the Mazda was revving a full 500 RPM more than my Falcon does at 110. The Falcon is smoother, and quieter. I am happy with my decision.
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Hi guy's I will be looking to upgrade my little Laser shortly and I was looking at a mazda 3 sp23 sedan, but after researching I have thought about the mazda 6 luxury sport's, only as you get the bigger engine and more space and more power for very little difference in ecomomy, oh and the sunroof option in the mazda 6, anyway my main concern is the ecomomy out of them, as I want it to be very good just like the vehicle it will be replacing, as it is a daily driven vehicle for me and the g/f, has anybody got one or know of someone that does and know how they perform, I will be looking at the 6manual but if a good 5auto comes along I will look into it closely but the manual is my prefrence, I am looking to buy 2nd hand as well, not new as they are pretty expensive, but any info on them would be good, or review's, thank's.
My apologies for venturing off-topic, but your post would be easier to read and comprehend without so many commas, as well as proper punctuation. Every single apostrophe in your post has been used incorrectly - you don't need to add an apostrophe to everything ending in "s".

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My apologies for venturing off-topic, but your post would be easier to read and comprehend without so many commas, as well as proper punctuation. Every single apostrophe in your post has been used incorrectly - you don't need to add an apostrophe to everything ending in "s".

why do people keep criticising others spelling/grammar etc? last i checked this was a ford forum, not an english lit forum. not everyone has been through high school, or done well in english class, good chance some here cant even read or write 100%, and its not like the question was asked in ancient hebrew!!
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why do people keep criticising others spelling/grammar etc? last i checked this was a ford forum, not an english lit forum. not everyone has been through high school, or done well in english class, good chance some here cant even read or write 100%, and its not like the question was asked in ancient hebrew!!
You respond as if I called him a numbskull. I didn't slam him for it, I just informed him in a nice, polite way. I even added the smiley face. I don't see why you feel you have to dispute my right to suggest a higher level of punctuation in somebody's post, especially when I did it politely. Please don't respond to this post - I don't want to take this thread further off course.
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You respond as if I called him a numbskull. I didn't slam him for it, I just informed him in a nice, polite way. I even added the smiley face. I don't see why you feel you have to dispute my right to suggest a higher level of punctuation in somebody's post, especially when I did it politely. Please don't respond to this post - I don't want to take this thread further off course.
Further off course, you have already done that, thanks for ruining my thread, this is a motorvehicle forum, not a school lesson, if you have nothing to contribute to my answer than why nit pick, get a life.
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My apologies for venturing off-topic, but your post would be easier to read and comprehend without so many commas, as well as proper punctuation. Every single apostrophe in your post has been used incorrectly - you don't need to add an apostrophe to everything ending in "s".

I can read my post quite easily mate, I suggest if you do not have anything helpfull to contribute to my answer than you go back to teaching english elsewhere, it really annoy's me when A@*L retentive people like yourself come on here and whinge about a person's mistake's when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, if you want to teach english mate your teaching the wrong person, because I don't give a f*@k.
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not have anything helpfull to contribute to my answer than you go back to teaching english elsewhere, it really annoy's me when A@*L retentive people like yourself come on here and whinge about a person's mistake's when it has nothing to do with the topic at hand, if you want to teach english mate your teaching the wrong person, because I don't give a f*@k.
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Further off course, you have already done that, thanks for ruining my thread, this is a motorvehicle forum, not a school lesson, if you have nothing to contribute to my answer than why nit pick, get a life.
It concerns me that people who claim to be adults can act like such rude little children. If you feel you need to swear and tell me to get a life, simply because I corrected your troublesome attempt at the English language, I suggest you grow a thicker skin - you may need it for when you grow up. Note that I wasn't the only one to point out the shortcomings of your grammar. You are eager to point out that this is a forum - so perhaps I should inform you that in forums like this, people communicate solely using text, thus it would be optimal for you to present text that can be understood easily. Do you disagree?

I am baffled as to why you feel you need to attack me. In all honesty, when I read your post I felt sorry for you and thought to myself that giving you a quick heads up might help you out for next time - so you don't keep repeating the same mistakes that most primary school children would snigger at. I’ve never quite seen a sentence that lasts for a whole paragraph, made up of just commas instead of using any full stops - combined with a level of apostrophe overuse that would make an English teacher cry. However, your demonstrated lack of maturity has made me regret trying to help you out.

If you ever feel offended by what I have said, PM me instead of dragging the forums through the mud. I don't care how much you (or anyone else who shares your unfortunate mindset for that matter) oppose my right to suggest simple punctuation in your posts (which I see as a courtesy, not a matter of "I don't give a ****"). I'm not angry with you; I'm disappointed with your lack of respect.
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so perhaps I should inform you that in forums like this, people communicate solely using text, thus it would be optimal for you to present text that can be understood easily.
I skipped over the original post because it was too difficult to read. As stated, this is a text based communication forum. If someone doesn't take the due care and attention to post their thoughts legibly then I won't spend too much of my time trying to read them.

It's not a case of trying to be snobby or elitist, this is a relaxing pasttime (at least of mine) in my limited time and as such I won't spend it with a decoder wheel by my side.

Bottom line, if posters want their messages read, spend a little more time and care whilst typing them. The odd spelling mistake is fine (there's probably a few in this post) but if it's SMS speak or a wall of text with no paragraphs or correct punctuation, I just end up zoning out... so I skip them (as I'm sure many others also do).
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I skipped over the original post because it was too difficult to read. As stated, this is a text based communication forum. If someone doesn't take the due care and attention to post their thoughts legibly then I won't spend too much of my time trying to read them.

It's not a case of trying to be snobby or elitist, this is a relaxing pasttime (at least of mine) in my limited time and as such I won't spend it with a decoder wheel by my side.

Bottom line, if posters want their messages read, spend a little more time and care whilst typing them. The odd spelling mistake is fine (there's probably a few in this post) but if it's SMS speak or a wall of text with no paragraphs or correct punctuation, I just end up zoning out... so I skip them (as I'm sure many others also do).
If it bothers you that much don't read it,
Very simple english there mate, take your own words into action and skip past it, why respond in my thread when as you have said it bother's you and you ussually skip over them?????.
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It concerns me that people who claim to be adults can act like such rude little children. If you feel you need to swear and tell me to get a life, simply because I corrected your troublesome attempt at the English language, I suggest you grow a thicker skin - you may need it for when you grow up. Note that I wasn't the only one to point out the shortcomings of your grammar. You are eager to point out that this is a forum - so perhaps I should inform you that in forums like this, people communicate solely using text, thus it would be optimal for you to present text that can be understood easily. Do you disagree?

I am baffled as to why you feel you need to attack me. In all honesty, when I read your post I felt sorry for you and thought to myself that giving you a quick heads up might help you out for next time - so you don't keep repeating the same mistakes that most primary school children would snigger at. I’ve never quite seen a sentence that lasts for a whole paragraph, made up of just commas instead of using any full stops - combined with a level of apostrophe overuse that would make an English teacher cry. However, your demonstrated lack of maturity has made me regret trying to help you out.

If you ever feel offended by what I have said, PM me instead of dragging the forums through the mud. I don't care how much you (or anyone else who shares your unfortunate mindset for that matter) oppose my right to suggest simple punctuation in your posts (which I see as a courtesy, not a matter of "I don't give a ****"). I'm not angry with you; I'm disappointed with your lack of respect.
Mate, get a life, If you want to teach english do it in another thread, not here, if it bother's you that much come and teach me, I might teach you a thing or two,
Now about manner's and respect, not everybody has lead a good level of education, and if your so proud of your expertise in this area why don't you go over all thread's here and tell everyone else how they are illiterate and have no idea on grammer,
I think you will find you will have a full time job,
Sorry to everybody who is reading this, I didn't think this was such an issue, but some people really need to spend a little time thinking about what they are going to respond to in a person's thread,
If you can't tell I'm rather annoyed, and I'm not the kind of person that express's their self easily,
This is not an exam, this is not an English lesson, so don't try and convince me it is or teach me anything, if people have a problem with me or this thread, then feel free to PM me.....
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Old 01-05-2008, 08:04 PM   #28
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For anyone reading this thread for the first time and wondering why there appears to be such conflict between myself and galaxy xr8, this post of mine compelled him to aggressively attack me multiple times throughout the last page or so. I addressed these insults with maturity and respect for him - yet he has continued to throw it back in my face and disrespect me for no reason. Make your own conclusion. My patience is wearing thin.

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Mate, get a life, If you want to teach english do it in another thread, not here, if it bother's you that much come and teach me, I might teach you a thing or two,
Now about manner's and respect, not everybody has lead a good level of education, and if your so proud of your expertise in this area why don't you go over all thread's here and tell everyone else how they are illiterate and have no idea on grammer,
I think you will find you will have a full time job,
Sorry to everybody who is reading this, I didn't think this was such an issue, but some people really need to spend a little time thinking about what they are going to respond to in a person's thread,
If you can't tell I'm rather annoyed, and I'm not the kind of person that express's their self easily,
This is not an exam, this is not an English lesson, so don't try and convince me it is or teach me anything, if people have a problem with me or this thread, then feel free to PM me.....
Please stop disrespecting me - you have no reason to. You obviously didn't read my post, Pertuan's post, Deadman's post or Rodp's post. We are all saying the same thing to you (politely, unlike yourself). I don't appreciate being attacked continually. Please find some maturity. You have turned a small issue into a large conflict. I will quote my last post, because you obviously didn't read any of it:

If you ever feel offended by what I have said, PM me instead of dragging the forums through the mud.

Like others have said to you, simple mistakes with grammar and spelling are fine - they happen all the time. However, your first post was terrible - it was difficult to read and comprehend without slowing down to decipher the mess. You should have just accepted that I was trying to help you out and moved on. I don't care about grammar unless it makes the post difficult to read and is obvious that the poster has put no thought into it.

Unfortunately, you are by far the worst person I have ever come across on the Australian Ford Forums. I have only ever given you undue respect, while you have given me less than none. You have thrown my manners back in my face. You have not ceased to attack me. You despise the fact that I kindly suggested you try and put some structure into your opening post to make it readable. Attacking me for no reason is not the answer. You have no reason to be aggressive. Your behaviour is inexcusable. You have turned a small issue into a large conflict. If I haven't said it enough times already, I feel very disrespected.

I have informed the forum director.
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Old 27-04-2008, 10:37 PM   #29
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having owned a mazda 3 before the ba we have now, it was the best car ive ever owned apart from the boot space... it was the sedan though, the hatch seems to be a little better...
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mazda 6 definetely, there a very buetiful car, trust me im one of those s who will pressure you into buying one, try a mazda 2, crappiest car on earth
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