Failed Rego! WTF??

sleekism · 18-09-2008, 08:06 AM

Well my mrs went to get my car registered and it failed because my ABS doesn't work shown by the ABS and Traction control lights on. The then charged $80 to plug a laptop in to say ABS doesnn't work and it'll cost $2000 to fix the problem.

I thought this was BS so I pulled the dash out to remove the ABS and TC bulbs but for some BS Ford reason I can't remove the bulbs from the back.

What do I do I'm already ****ed off that I'm paying more for a Green Slip than I do in Comprehensive Insurance.

RG · 18-09-2008, 08:08 AM

Get the ABS fixed seems like a good solution to me.

troppo · 18-09-2008, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Russell

Get the ABS fixed seems like a good solution to me.

That's just crazy enough to work

GTP owner · 18-09-2008, 08:22 AM

Fix the problem you clown!
It's too late after the crash to think,"oh maybe i should have had it fixed"

LTDterri · 18-09-2008, 08:35 AM

maybe you can't remove the bulbs to stop people trying to do what you are trying to do !...Fix the ABS sleekism, I know it's expensive but it may save your life....

sleekism · 18-09-2008, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LTDterri

maybe you can't remove the bulbs to stop people trying to do what you are trying to do !...Fix the ABS sleekism, I know it's expensive but it may save your life....

Yeah I will just pull 2 grand out my a$$

My XE and Laser never had ABS. Why do I need ABS?

RG · 18-09-2008, 08:48 AM

Because when your car was built Ford put it there. Ever thought about finding out exactly what is wrong and going to the wreckers?

Seriously if you can't afford the repairs and maintenance then you can't really afford the car can you.

Is it worth going to prison over if you do have a serious accident because of it?

LTDterri · 18-09-2008, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

Yeah I will just pull 2 grand out my a$$

My XE and Laser never had ABS. Why do I need ABS?

Sorry to hear that's your attitude, maybe you should have kept the XE

duaned · 18-09-2008, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

Yeah I will just pull 2 grand out my a$$

My XE and Laser never had ABS. Why do I need ABS?

Remind me to never drive in front of you!

Keepleft · 18-09-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

Well my mrs went to get my car registered and it failed because my ABS doesn't work shown by the ABS and Traction control lights on. The then charged $80 to plug a laptop in to say ABS doesnn't work and it'll cost $2000 to fix the problem.

Fees fees fees, sounds like a bank!

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I thought this was BS so I pulled the dash out to remove the ABS and TC bulbs but for some BS Ford reason I can't remove the bulbs from the back.

The fees or the fault? Eitherway, don't disable the system, think of the children, the trees.

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[What do I do I'm already ****ed off that I'm paying more for a Green Slip than I do in Comprehensive Insurance.

Owch! Don't you just love doling out $$?!

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Look http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-AU-ABS-M...QQcmdZViewItem
An AU ABS module with Trac control for $185 change over.

Good find!

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Originally Posted by ddarby

Remind me to never drive in front of you!

This presumes he taillgates, and
that you are in a habit of brake-testing? (Yes, your humouring him I know. I hope!)

RG · 18-09-2008, 09:37 AM

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ford-fairmont...QQcmdZViewItem
Look even cheaper at $100!!!!!!!

GTP owner · 18-09-2008, 08:47 AM

You need abs because that is what the car was designed and complied with. The abs may not be working because a sensor has come loose. I will say it again - it is too late once the sensor has jammed in a brake rotor and locked one wheel! I am not saying that is the cause in your case, but just fix it. If you can't afford to fix it, sell the car and buy one you can afford to fix.

BIGJB · 18-09-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by sleekism

I thought this was BS so I pulled the dash out to remove the ABS and TC bulbs but for some BS Ford reason I can't remove the bulbs from the back.

What the hell is it with you guys. If it's broken fix it. Yes its a pain in the a$$ when
s... goes wrong. Yes we all hate forking out money on fixing problems that arise instead
of spending our hard earned on the mods we want. But it happens to all of us.
Just fix it. It's a safety item in this case. It's because of people who do dodgy s... like you
are talking about that the rest of us get such a hard time with authorities with our modified cars.
Not to mention that if your abs isn't working than the brakes on your car aren't working
to there full potential. If you try to dodgy this up than you are putting yourself and the
rest of us at risk by having the un roadworthy vehicle on the road.
As has already been said if you can't afford to fix it you can't afford to own.
So sell it and buy a push bike that way your dodgy fix solutions will only endanger yourself.

RG · 18-09-2008, 09:17 AM

Look http://cgi.ebay.com.au/FORD-AU-ABS-M...QQcmdZViewItem
An AU ABS module with Trac control for $185 change over.

private9 · 18-09-2008, 09:42 AM

Just get it fixed mate, but not at that place! 2k is half of what a 99 Ghia is worth, and they're just taking you for a ride.

sleekism · 18-09-2008, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by private9

Just get it fixed mate, but not at that place! 2k is half of what a 99 Ghia is worth, and they're just taking you for a ride.

Thankyou that is what I have been waiting to here. I really wanted to know whether they were taking my mrs for a ride.
2k is BS when I can buy a e-series with 12 months rego for that much. I'm largely annoyed because I have seen some absolute rusts buckets pass rego that couldn't outbreak an oil tanker.

68XTFairmont · 18-09-2008, 09:49 AM

Do your Mrs and perhaps kids ride in this car???

Brakes are an important part of safety that should under no circumstances be bodged up. If Traction control wasn't working fair enough ya can live without that, we all lived without it since the invention of the motor vehicle.

Don't take a chance on ya families life over money no matter how broke ya get.

RJO89 · 18-09-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by 68XTFairmont

Brakes are an important part of safety that should under no circumstances be bodged up.

Probably THE most important part of safety!!!

I agree with everyone else on this entire forum when they say, just get it fixed. Not many cars nowadays come without ABS, and there's a reason for it.

davez104 · 18-09-2008, 10:02 AM

I fully agree with you all, he needs to get it fixed rather than dodgey it up. But a lot of the replies seem to be pointing towards ABS being the "be all and end all" in brakes. A half decent driver without ABS will out out brake the same car with ABS thats had the pedal thumped to the floor.

I'll sit back now and see whos cage I've rattled.

Dave.

GORDZ · 18-09-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by davez104

I fully agree with you all, he needs to get it fixed rather than dodgey it up. But a lot of the replies seem to be pointing towards ABS being the "be all and end all" in brakes. A half decent driver without ABS will out out brake the same car with ABS thats had the pedal thumped to the floor.

I'll sit back now and see whos cage I've rattled.

Dave.

Totally with you on that post dave. When i need to stop the ute, I find myself toying with the pedal to avoid ABS coming on anyway... ABS never feels like it slows me down faster

Cappy_Hamper · 19-09-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by GORDZ

Totally with you on that post dave. When i need to stop the ute, I find myself toying with the pedal to avoid ABS coming on anyway... ABS never feels like it slows me down faster

ABS is not designed to slow you down faster, it is designed to not lock the brakes in an emergency situation and allow you to steer around the problem.
Brakes locked = no steering control

vanman_75 · 19-09-2008, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Cappy_Hamper

ABS is not designed to slow you down faster, it is designed to not lock the brakes in an emergency situation and allow you to steer around the problem.
Brakes locked = no steering control

a good driver wont lock their brakes .
but there are not many good drivers on the road ,so the safe way is to give them as little control of the situation.
its a safety device for the larger population ,and he should fix it .

FPV GT40 · 19-09-2008, 04:05 PM

There are not many good drivers around here or anywhere, if you are a good driver you would be spending the long week end in Bathurst behind the wheel of a race car.....not at home or trackside watching.

People talk the talk but I bet 99.9% can not walk the walk, I would challenge anyone here to pull up quicker than a car with ABS in a panic situation where some moron pulls out in front of you, people will just hit the brakes as hard as they can, and 99% of people will actually press down on the pedal harder once the brakes locked up and the car starts sliding as they panic more.

Re the topic just fix it, my EL XR8 ABS light came on, just took the wheels off degreased and wiped and cleaned the sensors thoroughly and all has been well for 12 months now, buy a cheap bristle detail scrubbing brush (Bunnings cleaning section about $3, bought a heap the other day, all different shapes and sizes available)and some degreaser, all up about $20 and a couple of hours work, and chances are it will be fixed. If not find what parts need replacing and replace them, and your clean sensors will be a good thing anyway, so either way you have not wasted your time.

Swordsman88 · 18-09-2008, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by davez104

I fully agree with you all, he needs to get it fixed rather than dodgey it up. But a lot of the replies seem to be pointing towards ABS being the "be all and end all" in brakes. A half decent driver without ABS will out out brake the same car with ABS thats had the pedal thumped to the floor.

I'll sit back now and see whos cage I've rattled.

Dave.

No cage rattling from me Dave....i've got an EF Gli, no abs here mate! ABS is damn good, and sleekism should just work out what parts he needs (stay away from this mechanic, 2k is outrageous) and go to the wreckers and grab em (or ripco etc.)

ABS systems (particularly older ones like the EF) are quite often beaten to a stop by a nonABS car with a driver who 'threshold brakes'. Of course in a panic situation most people just slam the pedal to the floor, hence ABS is the way to go. ABS also allows you to swerve and recover, whereas nonABS cars this can get dicey if you dont have good car control.

Short answer, get em fixed (won't cost that much) if you have em, if you don't, make sure you know how to pull up a car quickly without panicking. Oh and you need good tyres and the brake system has to be in good working order otherwise this is all worth diddly.....

FGII-XR6 · 19-09-2008, 01:35 AM

that may be true in a car not designed for ABS but the ABS unit is an integral part of the braking system of these cars and without it the ADR compliance becomes void. remember these cars were tested and compied with the ABS and for this reason it must be intact and operational if you dodgy or remove the ABS you will be uninsurable too. This includes CTP which would be void with dodgy illegal brakes

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Originally Posted by davez104

I fully agree with you all, he needs to get it fixed rather than dodgey it up. But a lot of the replies seem to be pointing towards ABS being the "be all and end all" in brakes. A half decent driver without ABS will out out brake the same car with ABS thats had the pedal thumped to the floor.

I'll sit back now and see whos cage I've rattled.

Dave.

Fev · 18-09-2008, 10:50 AM

Get it fixed, i had a mate who had the same problem, just paid the bloke who was doin the greenslip to overlook it.. 3 months later he wrote the car off because some d-head pulled out in front of him from an off street and he t-boned the guy, although even if he did have abs he couldnt have done anything anyway but.. kharma!

Fev · 18-09-2008, 10:57 AM

i'd be assuming that price would include labour though. How hard of a job is it?

sleekism · 18-09-2008, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Fev

i'd be assuming that price would include labour though. How hard of a job is it?

Nope mrs quoted 2k just for parts.

No idea how hard job is but if I don't get rego soon I will likely be forced to drive to work unregistered which I really don't want to do as my uncle drove an unreg car into a Merc and spent 10 years paying for it.

I don't know what to do. It's a 3 hour walk to work and I have pushbiked twice and both times my bike got stolen.

I have about 1k in cash. So apart for getting it fixed for that price the only other solution is to buy a registered car which is madness!!

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RG · 18-09-2008, 12:12 PM

My god, 2k in parts would literally replace every singe brake component you have. Try a decent brake shop, you may get lucky and find that it is just the module or an electrical fault.

Abacus · 18-09-2008, 12:15 PM

A new ABS module is around the $2,000 mark.

Wreckers seem to sell second hand ones for $400-$500.

Don't buy one of Ebay unless youi know exactly what you are getting. There are a few different types in the AUs and they are not interchangeable.

Get someone who knows what they are doing to check out the codes. It could be the a sensor, but if both ABS and TC lights are on it is possible the ABS/TC valve in the ABS module is the problem, in which case a 2nd hand module is the way to go.