Insurance Company Hungry for money

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 04:01 PM

Alright the story goes like this i was driving in December 08 in a 70kph zone leaving what i thought was to be an appropriate gap, now the lady in front slams on her brakes, and i jump on my brakes i was driving an old nissan now my car impacted hers leaving glass from my headlights in her rear bumper but apart from that there was no real damage.
she got out of the car and started blaming the whole accident on me and apparently i pushed her into the car infront which she has no witness for,
and i also heard a bang before i hit her,
i went to inspect the front damage on her car and there was a very minor ding in the front plastic bumper which could have been pushed back out by hand,
we exchanged details and her and myself made a personal agreement that i would pay half her premium even though i felt the accident was caused by her not slowing sooner and indicating around the stopped car (in a clearway)

now the insurance company calls me demading $2000 when myself and her had a personal agreement i would pay half her premium ($300) now at that point in time i have no job or no centrelink i explain this too them and they still demand $2000 and now the story has all of a sudden got a dog running across the road wich no one mentioned at th accident also no police report was filed,

any ideas on what i can do to prove the accident was not my fault or even just pay the money we agreed upon (half her insurance)
as i dont just have $2000 laying around. :togo:

gtfpv · 06-03-2009, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

Alright the story goes like this i was driving in December 08 in a 70kph zone leaving what i thought was to be an appropriate gap, now the lady in front slams on her brakes, and i jump on my brakes i was driving an old nissan now my car impacted hers leaving glass from my headlights in her rear bumper but apart from that there was no real damage.
she got out of the car and started blaming the whole accident on me and apparently i pushed her into the car infront which she has no witness for,
and i also heard a bang before i hit her,
i went to inspect the front damage on her car and there was a very minor ding in the front plastic bumper which could have been pushed back out by hand,
we exchanged details and her and myself made a personal agreement that i would pay half her premium even though i felt the accident was caused by her not slowing sooner and indicating around the stopped car (in a clearway)

now the insurance company calls me demading $2000 when myself and her had a personal agreement i would pay half her premium ($300) now at that point in time i have no job or no centrelink i explain this too them and they still demand $2000 and now the story has all of a sudden got a dog running across the road wich no one mentioned at th accident also no police report was filed,

any ideas on what i can do to prove the accident was not my fault or even just pay the money we agreed upon (half her insurance)
as i dont just have $2000 laying around. :togo:

yep . GET A LOAN , and pay the insurance company . not only are you stupid . trying to convince us that it's her fault . but you didnt report it to the police . /or get witnesses . you think on centrelink payments you can take on an insurance company?
file bankrupcy . or get a loan . stop being silly .

i'm sorry buit thats the way i see it . OBVIUOSLY YOU WERE STUPID and didn't have insurance anyway . people that do this increase the insurance premiums that responsible people have to pay.

XR Martin · 06-03-2009, 04:19 PM

Just tell them all you can afford is $20 a week because you are unemployed. They basically have to accept that.

gtfpv · 06-03-2009, 04:26 PM

feel i need to add something here . this post can be taken as a personal attack #1 . i'm not implying your stupid . but i think the decisions you made which lead to this situation was foolish . thats all . take it as a lesson . i've been there and done that . it's a lesson that backfires on us . it cost me a bit finding out the hard way . apoligies for being hard . jsut accept it and pay it off mate . i dont think you have a case , and most of us have been there . if you do this and get it out of the way. it'll be over . if you dont , it will cause heartache to all concerned .

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

feel i need to add something here . this post can be taken as a personal attack #1 . i'm not implying your stupid . but i think the decisions you made which lead to this situation was foolish . thats all . take it as a lesson . i've been there and done that . it's a lesson that backfires on us . it cost me a bit finding out the hard way . apoligies for being hard . jsut accept it and pay it off mate . i dont think you have a case , and most of us have been there . if you do this and get it out of the way. it'll be over . if you dont , it will cause heartache to all concerned .

its funny that you say get a loan when im already paying one off
the point is that she and i made a personal agreement that i would pay only half of her premium. i agreed to that despite her slamming on her brakes with no probable cause,
im already broke paying off 2 loans (a mistake i made when i was 18) without having another headache to deal with

GT0132 · 06-03-2009, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

any ideas on what i can do to prove the accident was not my fault or even just pay the money we agreed upon (half her insurance)
as i dont just have $2000 laying around. :togo:

Fact is it can't be proven, if you hit someone in the rear youre automatically at fault, no contest...What i'm not sure about is who's responsible for the damage caused as a result of her car hitting the other guy via your shunt.

Forget the personal agreement about you paying half of whatever. She's obviously been to her insurer and had the damage assessed and $2k is the repair bill...Were you not insured at least for 3rd party damage?

The G6ET Spot · 06-03-2009, 04:43 PM

As others have said, you have hit her from behind so you are in the wrong end of story. As for the damage to the front of her car, if you were insured then your insurer would fight it on the grounds that she didn't have her brakes applied properly. Sounds stupid, but that is the way they look at it.

But as you are uninsured

: (can't believe that people still are) then you will have to wear it. That's the downside of not wanting to pay for even third party insurance. Maybe this might teach you the hard way.

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPID XR8

As others have said, you have hit her from behind so you are in the wrong end of story. As for the damage to the front of her car, if you were insured then your insurer would fight it on the grounds that she didn't have her brakes applied properly. Sounds stupid, but that is the way they look at it.

But as you are uninsured

: (can't believe that people still are) then you will have to wear it. That's the downside of not wanting to pay for even third party insurance. Maybe this might teach you the hard way.

if you can afford rent, food, electricity, car bills,2 loans and insurance on a measly $300 per week then you would understand my situation

XR6TCraig · 06-03-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

if you can afford rent, food, electricity, car bills,2 loans and insurance on a measly $300 per week then you would understand my situation

Employment generally pays a bit better than welfare mate.

Have you thought about getting a job rather than a loan?

I know I couldn't live on that type of money so thats what I did!

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And look on the bright side. It could have been a lot worse!

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Craiginmackay

Employment generally pays a bit better than welfare mate.

Have you thought about getting a job rather than a loan?

I know I couldn't live on that type of money so thats what I did!

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lol i do work im an Apprentice mechanic

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 04:48 PM

ANYWAYS im over it ill just pay for her mistake and put myself in debt even more

gtfpv · 06-03-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

ANYWAYS im over it ill just pay for her mistake and put myself in debt even more

if you want to discuss a little bit of honest rationale . i'mhappy to talk by PM . I can offer a little opinion on how to stop falling into the trap. you need a little advice off parents or role model . thats all . you can turn it round in your favour , but you have to pay off your debts. facing responsibility will always payoff later , and stop you getting into this later . chin up mate . it's not all bad . some people work 3 jobs and struggle paying off million $$ debts . now re look at your situation . you are so lucky that car wasnt a porsche . you could be facing $20 000 instead of 2000.

dave289 · 07-03-2009, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

ANYWAYS im over it ill just pay for her mistake and put myself in debt even more

you are not paying for her mistake you are paying for your mistakes.

1 driving too close to somebody,dont you people get it
2 not paying attention and smashing up somebodies car(glad is was'nt mine)
3 not having insurance
4 blaming somebody else for your mistakes

you ran up somebodies **** ,its your fault ,you were not paying attention and driving to close to somebody. the only advice I will give you and one very good piece of advise is "learn from your mistakes to avoid them happening again".dont worry this is all part of the learning process to make you a better person, a better driver and to make your life easier later on by knowing what to do and what not to do.yes this is painfull for you now you will get over it and everything will be fine.

PS .it is a bit insulting to some other drivers on here when you are young, ran up somebodies **** and then make out it was the other drivers fault.sorry but most of us look down upon this.

Pinkbits · 06-03-2009, 05:13 PM

Third party fire & theft is available for around $25 per month, and most insurers offer pay by month.

sgt_doofey · 06-03-2009, 05:26 PM

Insurance companies just don't fork out money to pay for accident repairs. They chase the guilty party (which in this case, looks like you) for the cost of the repairs to their client (the lady). By you agreeing to pay the $300 of her excess (not premium) doesn't mean that her insurance company will not reclaim costs of repairs.

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 05:20 PM

just got AAMI third party property damage $100 p/month

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**GasoLane** · 06-03-2009, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

just got AAMI third party property damage $100 p/month

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3rd party property for $100 PER MONTH!! thats $1200 a year! sheeeet!

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by GasOLane

3rd party property for $100 PER MONTH!! thats $1200 a year! sheeeet!

yeah i know with only 1 accident at fault

bob^ · 06-03-2009, 05:35 PM

I understand you offered to pay half her premium, but that has nothing to do with her insurance company.
The insurance company needs to cough up $2000 to fix her car, and they want that money back.

SM1DY · 06-03-2009, 06:17 PM

I think by agreeing to pay half her premiums, you kinda screwed yourself over. This sort of implies that you know you are to blame for the accident, if it wasn't your fault then you shouldn't have payed anything.

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SM1DY

I think by agreeing to pay half her premiums, you kinda screwed yourself over. This sort of implies that you know you are to blame for the accident, if it wasn't your fault then you shouldn't have payed anything.

like i said im over it, im paying the insurance company
i know i was screwed from the start, shish happens so i just build a bridge and get over it

GlenW · 06-03-2009, 06:44 PM

This situation sucks man, but I have to agree with the other posts here. On the upside youre an apprentice mechanic, look to the day when youre a qualified tradesman and earning good money -> thats the pay off for crap wages now, plus youll be able to do stuff to your car that others have to pay for.....

Loverboy · 07-03-2009, 05:40 PM

a big company hungry for money? and this is news?

australians who think insurance companies, banks, etc...are there to help them usually don't know very much of what is really going on around them. always trying to acheive higher status and chasing after useless trinkets not caring about their real problems

yet these australians continue to pay for insurance. i notice a lot of people in australia see the flaws in their society and just accept them because they say "thats the way it is". if i came to your house and took your dog you would stop me, right? but if the police came to take your dog you would hide him or submit. what happened to this countrys fighting spirit? you fight in foreign wars but you do not fight your own most basic problems

i like this country but a lot of your men need to man up like the natives of this country. MAN UP

can i get an AMEN?

platinumXR · 07-03-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Loverboy

a big company hungry for money? and this is news?

australians who think insurance companies, banks, etc...are there to help them usually don't know very much of what is really going on around them. always trying to acheive higher status and chasing after useless trinkets not caring about their real problems

yet these australians continue to pay for insurance. i notice a lot of people in australia see the flaws in their society and just accept them because they say "thats the way it is". if i came to your house and took your dog you would stop me, right? but if the police came to take your dog you would hide him or submit. what happened to this countrys fighting spirit? you fight in foreign wars but you do not fight your own most basic problems

i like this country but a lot of your men need to man up like the natives of this country. MAN UP

can i get an AMEN?

...wow...you're ingerish is MUCH better now. Been having lessons?

XR6TCraig · 06-03-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by tazza255

i have no job

This is from post one, your first post.

I somehow got the impression you weren't working but can't for the life of me figure out how.

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tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Craiginmackay

This is from post one, your first post.

I somehow got the impression you weren't working but can't for the life of me figure out how.

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sorry to quote you on this but it clearly says "now at the time i have no job"

Cheers

Mr Hardware · 06-03-2009, 07:01 PM

So you didn't have insurance
and you drove a car.

I will not drive a car i'm not insured for. All my cars i have organised insurance for before I have picked them up.
I have had an at fault accident in the past 5 years and comprehensive insurance for my two falcons is less than $450 a year each.

I personally think it should be just plain illegal to not have third party property insurance (not to be confused with compulsory third party).

Russell is right. Don't let anything ever hold you back, don't play the victim, don't get yourself into silly trouble like this.
Do what rich people do. It makes you rich yourself I'm sure. That's what i've done so far, it's worked for me. Rich people always have good insurance. So I do too. This theory does work, to an extent.

Magna · 06-03-2009, 08:31 PM

the bright side is 2K isn't too bad my insurance is $1080 and $600 excess. i reckon just pay it and be glad it wasn't a new merc. and get some real insurance.

Pinch · 06-03-2009, 08:43 PM

I still can't understand why 3rd party property is not mandatory. No 3rd party property, no drive in my book. Stuff like this can ruin people. A half decent new Aussie car is north of 50K, Euro multiples of that. Its pure luck one of those didn't get written off, so the glass is half full there.

This wouldn't be the first thread on this type of topic, and sadly it wont be the last. If you can't afford 3rd party property insurance, you can't afford to drive.

tazza255 · 06-03-2009, 09:43 PM

this post is now going to be ignored as im over it already and its paid up