Mullaly confirms Falcon and Mustang to share platform from 2016

LeadFoot81 · 13-01-2010, 11:33 AM

Just read in the Herald Sun, Mullaly has confirmed Falcon and Mustang platforms will be shared from 2016 "We've learned so much from the Falcon because its such a dynamite car...the whole thing about rear wheel drive? Were going to have rear wheel drive...(the) next version of the Falcon will be even better, in capital letters"

Hopefully this kicks off a 'glass half full thread' maybe a little more optimism? ;)

Maggot · 13-01-2010, 11:43 AM

Was getting grumpy listening to the news last night.

GM can go broke
Holden can get massive gov loans, then receive more money to NOT build a new car platform over here
SAAB.. broke.. sold off

But if someone in the US mentions the chance of change in falcon.. OMG they are all onto it. One of the news even reported that Ford had hit the 'financial skids' when in fact they are pretty decent shape globally.

I really hope they see the light and take on some of our design over there.

JPFS1 · 13-01-2010, 11:50 AM

This has been on the cards for quite a while, seems it's going ahead which will be fantastic.

I believe there is another car involved also.

FG XR · 05-03-2011, 11:17 AM

mmm mustang

Joe5619 · 13-01-2010, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LeadFoot81

Just read in the Herald Sun, Mullaly has confirmed Falcon and Mustang platforms will be shared from 2016 "We've learned so much from the Falcon because its such a dynamite car...the whole thing about rear wheel drive? Were going to have rear wheel drive...(the) next version of the Falcon will be even better, in capital letters"

Hopefully this kicks off a 'glass half full thread' maybe a little more optimism? ;)

Why couldn't they have just said that yesterday instead of what they said.. They really do have themselfs to blame. Guess how many will now report this news tonight?? (none). They are behind Holden in marketing & now behind Holdne in PR too it would seem..

Any way, good news I guess

High_Octane · 13-01-2010, 11:58 AM

Ahhh.Phew. Can loosen the noose now. Oh sh#t the chair has started to wobble.

**Luke Plaizier** · 13-01-2010, 12:00 PM

Links or scans?

Lukeyson

Paxton · 13-01-2010, 12:04 PM

Thank Christ for that.

RWD Falcon is here to stay. Mustang will never go FWD, and now Falcon won't either. This is also a vote of confidence in Ford Australia, because Falcon will remain locally manufactured.

**Luke Plaizier** · 13-01-2010, 12:04 PM

http://carshowroom.com.au/Review.aspx?id=720

Lukeyson

RG · 13-01-2010, 12:15 PM

Had a very strong feeling that this would be the case, in fact a few mates were giving me a ribbing and I told them all to wait on this news.

No doomsdayism here!

JPFS1 · 13-01-2010, 12:14 PM

There'll be global implications for Terri too...

And considering what was shown at the PG recently, Ford have the right cars in mind.

WOTDAH · 14-01-2010, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

There'll be global implications for Terri too...

And considering what was shown at the PG recently, Ford have the right cars in mind.

Taurus X

Road_Warrior · 14-01-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WOTDAH

Taurus X

That car has been discontinued

irlewy86 · 14-01-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

That car has been discontinued

The market continues to grow

Brazen · 13-01-2010, 12:15 PM

Hey are there any links to the Herald Sun article, I cant find it.

Brazen · 13-01-2010, 12:21 PM

If this is true, what a change in tact in 24 hours:

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576A8002405A6

Kuzak was saying that Taurus and Falcon need to be brought together. And that FWD has some excellent advantages.

CEO Mually was saying in deciding in RWD, costs will have precedence over function and design.

Kamshaaft · 13-01-2010, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

If this is true, what a change in tact in 24 hours:

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mell...2576A8002405A6

Kuzak was saying that Taurus and Falcon need to be brought together. And that FWD has some excellent advantages.

CEO Mually was saying in deciding in RWD, costs will have precedence over function and design.

THIS JUST IN! Falcon and Mustang to share FWD platform from 2011.

God, I hope not! As much as I am hopeful, that is what it reads like to me, to be sadly honest. I'm not going to pay much attention to it though; why?, well how many times now has 'someone' in HQ made a statement on Monday only for it to be retracted on Wednesday and something to come out of complete let field replace it?

What we can determine from the statement either way is that there might be, like has already been said in the last couple of posts, a real good chan of us getting the Mustang here, which will compete with the Camaro that was announced for Australia by GM HQ, as long as they don't retract their statement.

I've actually given thought to importing a modern Mustang before, last time our dollar was up, especially considering how damn cheap American cars are. I didn't go through with it, but that was the previous update also.

If they sold the 2010 Mustangs here for a reasonable price, I'd grab my socks, shoes and checkbook and head down to have a look.

Falc'man · 13-01-2010, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamshaaft

THIS JUST IN! Falcon and Mustang to share FWD platform from 2011.

God, I hope not! As much as I am hopeful, that is what it reads like to me, to be sadly honest. I'm not going to pay much attention to it though; why?, well how many times now has 'someone' in HQ made a statement on Monday only for it to be retracted on Wednesday and something to come out of complete let field replace it?

What we can determine from the statement either way is that there might be, like has already been said in the last couple of posts, a real good chan of us getting the Mustang here, which will compete with the Camaro that was announced for Australia by GM HQ, as long as they don't retract their statement.

I've actually given thought to importing a modern Mustang before, last time our dollar was up, especially considering how damn cheap American cars are. I didn't go through with it, but that was the previous update also.

If they sold the 2010 Mustangs here for a reasonable price, I'd grab my socks, shoes and checkbook and head down to have a look.

Please check your sources before quoting.

Kamshaaft · 13-01-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Falc'man

Please check your sources before quoting.

Huh? If you read the rest of the post you see it's 70% satire, 25% conjecture, and 5% fear mongering. Roughly.

Or do you mean something else?

aussie muscle · 13-01-2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kamshaaft

If they sold the 2010 Mustangs here for a reasonable price, I'd grab my socks, shoes and checkbook and head down to have a look.

the price quoted for the new camaro is 140,000 AUD.

: i'd say the mustangs will have a similar price, unfortunately :togo:

RG · 13-01-2010, 12:22 PM

Hang on, if the Mustang and Falcon share the same platform then I reckon the chances of us having a crack at the Mustang being sold here would increase significantly.

Interesting.

Paxton · 13-01-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Hang on, if the Mustang and Falcon share the same platform then I reckon the chances of us having a crack at the Mustang being sold here would increase significantly.

Interesting.

Especially if we built it here.

Does this mean Mustang will grow, or Falcon will shrink?

Edit: We must remember Henry Ford's former estate in Dearborn. It has a role to play here, too.

05MkIIFutura · 13-01-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Does this mean Mustang will grow, or Falcon will shrink?

There is no requirement that common platforms all be identical in dimension....

Falcon may be the LWB while the Mustang sits on a SWB

tezxr8man · 08-03-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Paxton

Especially if we built it here.

Does this mean Mustang will grow, or Falcon will shrink?

Edit: We must remember Henry Ford's former estate in Dearborn. It has a role to play here, too.

Hopefully falcon will shrink, change the perception of being a big gas guzzler and make it perform better, with all the small cars getting bigger they don't need to as well

Bossxr8 · 10-03-2011, 10:57 AM

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Hopefully falcon will shrink, change the perception of being a big gas guzzler and make it perform better, with all the small cars getting bigger they don't need to as well

You can pretty much guarantee it will have a nip and tuck in terms of size. They should be able to take a little bit from here and there to help reduce weight, and if designed smartly enough it should still have the same interior space, but still be a big car, just not as big as it is currently. Switching to a V6 will allow them to reduce bonnet length and bring the firewall forward to create more room.

I don't know how it will work if they use a Taurus platform as the Taurus is bigger than Falcon yet smaller inside. And switching to FWD on a Taurus platform is pointless as a way to increase economy as the Taurus is heavier and would use more fuel, especially in the AWD versions which are even heavier and use even more fuel due to increased driveline friction. Unless its on an all new smaller Taurus platform which can address these issues.

The days of cars continuing to grow in size is over, manufacturers will start to reduce size model by model to reduce weight and emissions.

I think Holden have already hinted they will make the 2014 Commodore a little smaller.

JPFS1 · 13-01-2010, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Hang on, if the Mustang and Falcon share the same platform then I reckon the chances of us having a crack at the Mustang being sold here would increase significantly.

Interesting.

It will be coming... almost certain.

RG · 13-01-2010, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

It will be coming... almost certain.

Well I know what I'll be buying then!

irlewy86 · 13-01-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JPFS1

It will be coming... almost certain.

Great news, I give it three thumbs up.

:

: :1syellow1

So 2016 we'll have
Falcon Sedan
Mustang Coupe/Convertable
Falcon Ute (???)
Territory

Long shot
Wagon
FAIRLANE/LTD (<-- Actual Lincoln Design)

cosmo20btt · 13-01-2010, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RG

Hang on, if the Mustang and Falcon share the same platform then I reckon the chances of us having a crack at the Mustang being sold here would increase significantly.

Interesting.

Or it might mean the return of the Falcon Coupe which is what I would dearly love to see.

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BrisVegas · 13-01-2010, 12:35 PM

hard to believe that in 5 years time we could see Falcon & Mustang taking the fight up to Commodore & Camaro on both sides of the Pacific.