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Old 25-08-2010, 03:13 PM   #1
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what euro cars would be available to me in this price range? i would like it to be 2006 or newer but to be honest i have no idea what sort of options i have. it needs to have style and a little power, im coming out of a BAXR8. i would like it to have around the same power as the xr8. i will more than likely head to the auctions for this one as its allot cheaper in doing so. cheers for the reply's.

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Old 25-08-2010, 03:50 PM   #2
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It if was my money... Take a look at these 2:

2006 Audi A6:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=12A6B1436F20

Or possibly 2008 VW Passat:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...wagon&trecs=27

May not have the punch that a BA XR8 has...
but the Audi would be hard to walk past... they are awesome cars...
both inside/outside/everywhere...
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Old 25-08-2010, 06:31 PM   #3
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It if was my money... Take a look at these 2:

2006 Audi A6:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=12A6B1436F20

Or possibly 2008 VW Passat:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...wagon&trecs=27

May not have the punch that a BA XR8 has...
but the Audi would be hard to walk past... they are awesome cars...
both inside/outside/everywhere...
Plus 1 for the Passat:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...0%204294742715
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It if was my money...

2006 Audi A6:
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=12A6B1436F20
+1 for the Audi...
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Old 25-08-2010, 03:57 PM   #5
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i wonder what sort of prices the A6 fetches at auction, sure is a stunning looking car.
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Old 25-08-2010, 04:13 PM   #6
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From left field - not a sedan but a hatch of the same dimensions. Brand new 2010 plates, both with far less power but a nice chunk of torque and more features than a 3 year old S-Class...

Mondeo XR5 Turbo Manual - http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=11FD6F6E8431

Mondeo Titanium 2.0 TDCi Powershift - http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...d=11FD6F6E8431
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Old 25-08-2010, 04:58 PM   #7
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i've looked at the mondeo but im after a large sedan that is a little sporty as well
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E39 M5, 1999 onwards. A bit older than what you want but they are so ahead of their time they fell as modern as a VE.
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E39 M5, 1999 onwards. A bit older than what you want but they are so ahead of their time they fell as modern as a VE.
Be very careful with 20 year old euros, bits are expensive and rare.

Also make sure whatever you buy can be worked on where you live by more than one workshop.

I bought an RX7 back in 1985 and had to travel 350km to get anyone to work on it.
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I'd go one of these.

http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...s=10&silo=1011
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Good choice this car.
Has all the goodies and does go very well too.
I don t think you will miss the XR8 with this.
Mid 6 second 0-100 and 14.5 quarters.
Had one for 2 years . Great on fuel as well. 400 to 500 kms per tank on my driving.
Just got make sure it has the full service history.
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Old 25-08-2010, 08:43 PM   #12
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Be very careful with 20 year old euros, bits are expensive and rare.
20 year old euro? A E39 is only 10 years old. That would probably be my pick if I wanted something sporty. Another plus is they tend to hold their value well.

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i've looked at the mondeo but im after a large sedan that is a little sporty as well
The friggen things (MB Mondeo) are wide! Titanium is nice.
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You can get E60 BMWs from 29k onwards. The 'M-sport' 530i would be my pick or as above the E39 M5 is a great bit of car.
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G6E turbo

Looks euro

You can afford insurance and repairs and it will spank any euro you can afford for 40k

But if it must really be a euro, do your research, mates VW cost more to change the rotors than a rocket to the moon
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Skoda Octavia RS

Citreon C5

Rover 75 or the MG equivilant,

Otherwise your stand Audi A4, VW Jetta choices.
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Even a mate of mine that is a VW salesman warns me off secondhand VWs as spares can be totally ridiculous. Check out the Touareg for an example, 125k car can now be had for 40k and generally a dealer won't touch them.
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Citreon C5

Rover 75 or the MG equivilant,

Otherwise your stand Audi A4, VW Jetta choices.
I have a 2008 Octavia RS FSI Manual.

I wanted a euro (I just like them....)

I paid half of what your saying your budget is, brand new out the door. So far I have piled 35,000km on it, and servicing so far has cost less than Ford charge for Mondeo or even Falcon scheduled servicing.

Its not really fair to claim that a Euro brand instantly equals expensive.

Just like with any brand of car, you have to shop around for parts and after sales service, because for ever 10 dealers or suppliers that will bend you over, there is one who is more than happy to come to the table with very reasonable service and prices.

Its very important though, to remember what sort of car it is, and the age and commonality of the technology it is packing.

If I had 45k to play with though........ a 5.0l V8 M5 would be seriously hard to walk past.
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I have a 2008 Octavia RS FSI Manual.

I wanted a euro (I just like them....)

I paid half of what your saying your budget is, brand new out the door
You sir, have the bargain of the decade!
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G6E Turbo or a Mondoe XR5 Turbo, we just bought a Mondeo XR5 T and its the best car ive ever owned as far as build quailty and finish. its great.
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Yeap you would be insane not to buy a G6ET at that price.

If not I quite like the C5, IMO the VW's look pretty plain.
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Yeap you would be insane not to buy a G6ET at that price.

The G6ET is a good option if you only consider the car/upfront price equation, but if I had $45k to spend on a large sporty sedan I'd probably be looking at second hand euros as well, simply because they've already done the bulk of their depreciating. You run the risk of servicing costs vs 3 year warranty on a new Ford, but if you buy well and look after it, you'll come out in front every time.

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I guess you have your reasons for wanting a Euro - but living where you do I would seriously advise against it for a couple of reasons. The first is servicing and parts availability in anywhere except major city areas. They really can be very VERY expensive cars just for normal servicing let alone if something seriously goes wrong. Motors, gearboxes, but mainly the electronics are a huge concern. The other reason is that the trim in a lot of Euros does not handle north Qld heat and humidity very well. Have a look at some in your local area that have lived up there for a while and you'll see what I mean.

And then you say you want something with the kind of power of your XR8. You will be disappointed with anything less than an E39 M5.

Nah mate seriously, stick with your XR8 - or trade up to a T-Series.
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SAAB Aero. I know I will get flamed by people but we love ours.
We have had a Bilstein strut & spring package, Abbott exhaust & chip, air intake & better brake lines fitted.
Its very quick, quiet, very safe, cheap to maintain ( you MUST take it to a specialist or you will get ripped), and parts are much cheaper than any of the other Euro brands.
Have a look at SAAB Central which is a UK based forum & you will learn a lot. They have a huge following in the US and the UK and the parts back up is fantastic. I have bought parts online for 1/2 the price landed of the local SAAB dealer. They have the same oil filter as a Camry!
I would get an 04-06 Aero, spend some $ on a few little bits, service it well and enjoy.
I love Fords but my parents have a new Mondeo top of the range thing and our 8 year old Aero is SO MUCH quieter, more stable, handles better, better auto gear change, more powah, and looks more "refined".
But the Mondeo has better around city economy.

If I had to do some KMs I would jump in the SAAB any day and the best part,... its a little different.

Enjoy the search!

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what euro cars would be available to me in this price range? i would like it to be 2006 or newer but to be honest i have no idea what sort of options i have. it needs to have style and a little power, im coming out of a BAXR8. i would like it to have around the same power as the xr8. i will more than likely head to the auctions for this one as its allot cheaper in doing so. cheers for the reply's.
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maybe a used VW R36, if I recall 0-100 from the 3.6 is roughly the same as the XR8.... and looks great to boot!

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maybe a used VW R36, if I recall 0-100 from the 3.6 is roughly the same as the XR8.... and looks great to boot!

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God they are quick....I was overtaken in my FG XR6 like it was standing still! I know the XR6 isnt that quick but I was impressed by the nimbleness of the VW- it is not a small car either. Beautiful in black too and whilst I understand the concerns of some with servicing, I have hardly been impressed by Ford Australias service costs over the last few years!
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if you were to allow a little (2/3years) older there are some really nice v8 mercs with low k`s
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Bloody hell, and people complain about Ford depreciation. a 2002 7 series at $35k...theres a good reason for that.

Stoney by name and nature, R36 with a 0-100 @ 3.6..um no, but the wagons look very nice. Good on you for saying the XR8 can do it in that time too!

Ok I dont know about age wise, but I dont think you can go past a E36 M3. DONT get SMG and leave $10k in the bank for when something happens, if it happens. Awesome car and you should be about to get a good one for $25k
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Um if you read it properly i was talking about the 3.6L six in the R36, I know they do the dash to 100 in approx 5.6s....

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