QPS's latest toy...

nstg8a · 18-04-2011, 05:46 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZRl3qLeb4

what a mammoth waste of money.

id rather see more patrol cars on the road or something, not this thing which will probably never be used in anger.

jpd80 · 18-04-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nstg8a

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZRl3qLeb4

what a mammoth waste of money.

id rather see more patrol cars on the road or something, not this thing which will probably never be used in anger.

They learned nothing from the Hummer debacle....

Streets · 18-04-2011, 07:52 PM

Sook harder, ingrates

SEZ213 · 18-04-2011, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Streets

Sook harder, ingrates

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell this is going to be used for in Queensland...!

At 400k it'd want to be something awfully special!

I have a sneaking suspicion their ROI is going to fall through the floor with this one...

nstg8a · 18-04-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sezzy

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell this is going to be used for in Queensland...!

thats the bit im struggling with... last time i looked qld wasnt baghdad, or tripoli, or even LA.
with a police force that screams under funded, and a state govt that was selling everything up to try and balance the budget i just dont see how something like this could be a high priority.

**GasoLane** · 19-04-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Sezzy

I'm still trying to figure out what the hell this is going to be used for in Queensland...!

In case Pauline tries to get back over the border ?.

XRGhia · 18-04-2011, 08:00 PM

This government really is just wasting our money aren't they...

Australia is like McDonalds, We have a red-headed clown running the country and everyone else is just in it for the money...

SEZ213 · 18-04-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xrghiawagon

This government really is just wasting our money aren't they...

Australia is like McDonalds, We have a red-headed clown running the country and everyone else is just in it for the money...

I don't think this thread will last long either TBH!

Ford_The_Win · 18-04-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xrghiawagon

Australia is like McDonalds, We have a red-headed clown running the country and everyone else is just in it for the money...

Brilliant

TheInterceptor · 18-04-2011, 08:07 PM

Guys...they're getting ready for 2012 thats all....

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SEZ213 · 18-04-2011, 08:09 PM

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Guys...they're getting ready for 2012 thats all....

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The end of the world?? This thing is going to be useless if that actually happens...

Tin foil hat! K-go!

TheInterceptor · 18-04-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Sezzy

The end of the world?? This thing is going to be useless if that actually happens...

Tin foil hat! K-go!

Well if you base it on the 2012 movie yes, but if you base it on Mad Max, its a different story

SEZ213 · 18-04-2011, 09:16 PM

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Well if you base it on the 2012 movie yes, but if you base it on Mad Max, its a different story

Touche!

Jim Goose · 18-04-2011, 08:10 PM

Funny how the QPS has been screaming for dedicated Police helicopters... and they get this instead????

GS608 · 18-04-2011, 09:24 PM

I'd rather see them put laptops in the cars..only a very small number of patrol cars have a laptop.

geckoGT · 18-04-2011, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 5.0

I'd rather see them put laptops in the cars..only a very small number of patrol cars have a laptop.

An awful lot have a laptop system but their use use is pretty limited in their role and many officers are not a fan.

GS608 · 19-04-2011, 08:10 AM

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An awful lot have a laptop system but their use use is pretty limited in their role and many officers are not a fan.

I read only about 201 out of the whole state have MINDA fitted?

geckoGT · 19-04-2011, 04:22 PM

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I read only about 201 out of the whole state have MINDA fitted?

Well a lot of them in my area must have them because just about every sedan that backs us up has one.

FTE72 · 19-04-2011, 04:37 PM

I know the engineer who is (trying) to certify this particular vehicle, Flappist is on the money again.
IMO it is fit for purpose.

geckoGT · 18-04-2011, 11:30 PM

It is only a waste of money if you are not the officer that has to approach a siege situation without a covered approach or move in to deploy EOD devices as shown on the video. If you are those officers this vehicle could be quite useful. I am sure any gunshot victim rescued by such a vehicle would also agree. Watch the news a bit, people do get shot and seiges do happen, it is the world in which we live. I am sure a couple more GD cops or 50 laptops will not fulfil the same role.

csv8 · 19-04-2011, 12:52 AM

When did Brizzy become Belfast??????????

irlewy86 · 19-04-2011, 09:31 AM

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When did Brizzy become Belfast??????????

I think it will be for more the Gympie type area, those biker affiliated farming co-op's don't appreciate unexpected guests.

In other news I think QPS will get a new helicopter once the results of the flood inquiry come home to roost.

XB GS 351 Coupe · 19-04-2011, 11:03 AM

Can't see a problem with having at least on or two of these in each state, bit late to place an order when you need it, with people saying wow I wish we had an armored vehicle in the next siege situation.

I bet they will be glad they have it next time its used and when it safes some lifes.

geckoGT · 19-04-2011, 05:55 PM

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When did Brizzy become Belfast??????????

If only you knew, less than 1% of the acts of violence I attend end up with even a small mention on the news. Our happy little city is not so happy, under the surface it has a dark side.

We live in a world where even everyday run of the mill paramedics are trained in the management of widespread chemical weapon attack and carry chemical, biological and radiological capable masks in their everyday safety equipment (there is one in my work bag).

Dave3911 · 19-04-2011, 11:12 AM

I think you'll find at least part of the funding for this has come from the federal government as each state's domestic police force forms part of the overall national CT response capability.

TheSneakiness · 19-04-2011, 11:34 AM

Why??

Pure stupidity at its greatest.

flappist · 19-04-2011, 12:41 PM

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Why??

Pure stupidity at its greatest.

Same reason they have V8 and turbo 6 pursuit cars but are not allowed to actually use them in anger.

All about bluff and posing.

QPOL would never enter into a situation where the bad guys are armed with anything more than a knife or a sidearm.

It would be rather embarressing to have their toy destroyed and their rambo squad "neutralised" by one person with a M72 and a couple of claymores.

We have SAS for that sort of thing and they appear to be rather good at it....

XB GS 351 Coupe · 19-04-2011, 12:47 PM

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Same reason they have V8 and turbo 6 pursuit cars but are not allowed to actually use them in anger.

where have you heard this rubbish, police regularly engage in persuits and stop vehicle all day long every day using these highway patrol cars.

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QPOL would never enter into a situation where the bad guys are armed with anything more than a knife or a sidearm.

Another rubbish comment, did you read that in conspiracy theory digist

flappist · 19-04-2011, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by XB GS 351 Coupe

where have you heard this rubbish, police regularly engage in persuits and stop vehicle all day long every day using these highway patrol cars.

Another rubbish comment, did you read that in conspiracy theory digist

From QPOL Highway Patrol and SERT members.

Where do you get your info?

geckoGT · 19-04-2011, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

We have SAS for that sort of thing and they appear to be rather good at it....

Nice in theory but considering they have to respond from WA the response time is pretty long.

All states are building an improved anti terrorism capability as a result of federal funding.

Like it or not this is a necessity in the world in which we live and any part of australia is not immune, what happened in Bali could happen here.

That is why QAS (queensland ambulance) receives federal funding for the Special Operations Response Team (SORT) which consists of specially trained, highly skilled paramedics and specialist equipment to deal with terrorist response, mass casualty, urban search and rescue etc. This team works very closely with SERT and I am sure that if they had to get a wounded cop out of a very bad situation, this vehicle would be a great asset and more use than 8 more GD coppers.

As for the M72 and claymores, claymores would not worry this vehicle unless they were buried and directed upward, although I would not like to be inside it as your ears would be bleeding. Claymore fragmentation does not have much in the way of armour penetration. The M72 would be a serious issue, luckily this sort of ordinance is not common. If it was present, nothing short of a M1 Abrams from the australian army would be safe (Bushmaster and LAV25 would still be rather vulnerable if hit in the right place). If it gets to that stage, we are in serious trouble.