Ecoboost V6 Accounts for 36% of all F150 Sales

[jpd80]

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When gas prices hit $4 per gallon in the past, pickup sales suffered as a result. We have to wait until April sales are released to know how much truck sales have been hurt by the latest spike at the pump, but it's clear that the Ford F-150 is getting a big boost from its turbocharged V6.

Automotive News reports that 36 percent of all F-150s are equipped with the optional EcoBoost V6, which costs between $750 and $1,750 depending on the model. What's more, the EcoBoost model is reportedly accounting for 40 percent of all F-150 orders, and there is currently a scant 13-day supply of the boosted trucks.

Traditionally, full-size truck buyers have been more inclined to opt for larger V8 engines, but the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 appears to have changed some minds. The mill's V8-like 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque means that capability won't be compromised, while fuel economy rises by up to 20 percent. The Environmental Protection Agency gave the boosted F-150 a 16 mile per gallon city rating and a 22 mpg rating in highway driving.

At the same time, Ford claims a maximum tow rating of 11,300 pounds with an EcoBoost-equipped F-150, depending on the model configuration. For comparison's sake, F-150s that come with the 411-hp, 6.2-liter V8 can also tow 11,300 pounds, but fuel economy tops out at only 18 mpg in highway driving.

With the EcoBoost F-150 off to a rousing start, the next big question is whether the boosted V6 has staying power in the event gas prices drop back down to more normal levels. We'll have to wait and see, but with power and capability that matches other trucks in the F-150 lineup and a significant fuel economy savings, we can't see why not.

Wow, looks like Ford USA is on a winner with the Ecoboost V6 F150,
higher fuel prices will sort the men from the boys.....

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by jpd80

Wow, looks like Ford USA is on a winner with the Ecoboost V6 F150, higher fuel prices will sort the men from the boys.....

Given the penchant for modifying over in the US. Wonder how many have bought them as cheap to mod?

Whatever reason, they are really selling well and helping to cement the F Truck sales lead

[Iggypoppin']

I knew this was going to be a good thing. Go ecoboost!!!

[mik]

ecoboost ftw !

[Joe5619]

So, Ford US have done a great job in convincing people V6 Ecoboost is as good as the V8... Lets people Ford Aust can do a great job in convincing people I4 Ec boost is as good as V/I6!!

[Falcon_Crazy]

Originally Posted by Joe5619

So, Ford US have done a great job in convincing people V6 Ecoboost is as good as the V8... Lets people Ford Aust can do a great job in convincing people I4 Ec boost is as good as V/I6!!

true - couldnt agree more

[Road_Warrior]

So there is actually more to Ecoboost than just a turbocharged direct injection engine isn't there??

[Airmon]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

So there is actually more to Ecoboost than just a turbocharged direct injection engine isn't there??

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

It's lean burn combustion. Igniting a mix containing more air then fuel of conventional percentages. Basically the twin scroll turbo spools up to provide that precise amount throughout the entire rev range.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It's lean burn combustion. Igniting a mix containing more air then fuel of conventional percentages. Basically the twin scroll turbo spools up to provide that precise amount throughout the entire rev range.

Thats the same prinicple as a diesel engine yes? More air than fuel?

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Big Damo

Thats the same prinicple as a diesel engine yes? More air than fuel?

Dunno.... is it?

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Airmon

Think its how they run such low boost, and the CGI block. Other then that not sure what else is so special. Still sounds like a good motor. And 34% thats bloody huge!! I wonder what Fords initial expecations were, 10%? 15% at best?

It's high compression, high boost 12-16 psi and lean burn on boost all controlled by a very
sophisticated software than varies cam timing and uses exhaust gas recirculation to control detonation..

Ford have two V6 plants in the USA, Cleveland No 1 is set up for the RWDs and Cleveland No. 2 for the FWD/AWDs.

While Ford seem openly pleased about the sales level of V6 engines, i think there's a lot of relief behind closed doors.
Putting a V6 in your best selling truck when V8s are selling like gang busters sure is a big call but it looks like Ford
have pulled off an amazing change in buyer demographic with the new engines and caught the ultimate upswing...
right when fuel prices are climbing, so too are F Truck sales. Well done Ford.

[FPV GTHO]

Ive read somewhere the 3.5 Ecoboost is designed to perform like a 6.5L NA engine.

[Road_Warrior]

That's what the 4.4L "Lion" V8 TD is for.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

That's what the 4.4L "Lion" V8 TD is for.

How about an EcoBoost Coyote?

[chevypower]

Unfortunately there are no confirmed plans for the 4.4 TDV8 in a Ford vehicle. It would make sense, but it is only in the Range Rover right now, and although made in North America, does not comply with US emissions standards. I assume it doesn't require diesel exhaust fluid in the 2011 Range Rover. Stick it in the F-150, Super Duty, and Expedition, and it will sell like hotcakes. It would make these vehicles global contenders too.

[Rodge]

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

Bear in mind the scales of economy the Americans have, they can spend huge on development because
they sell approx 18,000 Ecoboost V6 engines a month where as FoA are lucky to sell 4,000 I6Ts a year.

[Buntz]

Originally Posted by Rodge

Wow 420 lb ft of torque x 1.34 = 563nm compared to the regular inline six turbo here of 533nm.

You have to look to the specially tuned FPV F6 to match the ecoboost's torque so this new ecoboost engine looks like a super peice of kit especially with its superior fuel economy.

It is indeed a powerful engine. More like 570nm's. This is in Truck tune mind you. For the RWD/4WD application.

In the Taurus it's only putting out 474nm's.

It would be interesting to see the figures of the 4.0L I6 with EcoBoost tech.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Buntz93ED

It is indeed a powerful engine. More like 570nm's. This is in Truck tune mind you. For the RWD/4WD application.

In the Taurus it's only putting out 474nm's.

It would be interesting to see the figures of the 4.0L I6 with EcoBoost tech.

I did a quick extrapolation of F Truck Ecoboost 3.5 to 4.0litres:
650nm from 1700 to 4000 and 300 Kw @5000, now that would pull like a tractor in a Super Duty F250...

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by jpd80

I did a quick extrapolation of F Truck Ecoboost 3.5 to 4.0litres:
650nm from 1700 to 4000 and 300 Kw @5000, now that would pull like a tractor in a Super Duty F250...

Add a bit extra for the torque inherent in an I6 and you've got a ball tearer.

I wonder how that experimental Barra I6 diesel went...

[Elks]

The real question is why can't we get one here??

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Add a bit extra for the torque inherent in an I6 and you've got a ball tearer.

I wonder how that experimental Barra I6 diesel went...

A while ago, I remember reading a question about the possibility of a 3.7 EB, and the response was that the turbo tuning had so much potential, that the extra few cubes wouldn't make much difference. I just wonder how much potential that engine has.

[phillyc]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Add a bit extra for the torque inherent in an I6 and you've got a ball tearer.

I wonder how that experimental Barra I6 diesel went...

Yeah, i reckon the BARRA i6 diesel would've punched out 200kW@4500rpm /700Nm@1750pm. Easy!

NB The Ford 4.4L TDV8 outputs are 235kW/700Nm.

[trippytaka]

I was really glad to see that news come through...

[vztrt]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/05/03/v...ales-in-april/

V6 offerings make up 50% of retail Ford F-150 sales in April

by Chris Shunk (RSS feed) on May 3rd 2011 at 5:29PM

Ford sold 45,435 F-150s in April, up 11 percent versus the top-selling truck's April 2010 totals. That's a solid month for truck sales with soaring fuel prices, but the finer sales details show that truck buyers are very mindful of prices at the pump.

Ford announced in its monthly sales totals release that V6-equipped F-150s accounted for 50 percent of retail sales, up considerably from the 40 percent mix in March. The 3.7-liter V6 offers truck buyers 305 horsepower and 23 miles per gallon on the highway, so it's not surprising that some owners are opting for the smaller mill.

But the more popular V6 offering is the 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6, which boasts 365 horsepower and 420 pound-feet of torque. Ford says 75 percent of those V6 sales are of the EcoBoost variety, which makes sense, given the fact that the boosted mill accounted for 36 percent of all F-150 sales in April. The EcoBoost F-150 gets up to 22 mpg on the highway, which is still as good as or better than the other pickup trucks on the market.

[vztrt]

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/06/02/f...ing-v8-models/

Report: Ford F-150 V6s outselling V8 models

by Zach Bowman (RSS feed) on Jun 2nd 2011 at 9:31AM

Ford hit a milestone with its F-150 pickup last month. According to PickupTrucks.com, the Blue Oval sold more trucks with V6 engines than V8 mills. Forty-one percent of F-150 sales left the lot with the company's 3.5-liter Ecoboost six-pot under the hood. That number is up four percentage points compared to last month.

Additionally, the base, naturally-aspirated 3.7-liter V6 engine took home a 14 percent slice of the total mix, bringing the grand V6 total to 55 percent of all F-150 sales. The news comes as little surprise to anyone who's spent time in the full-size truck.

The twin-turbocharged, direct-injected 3.5-liter EcoBoost V6 engine provides more power and better fuel economy than the 5.0-liter V8 alternative. While it carries a $750 premium over the larger displacement engine, buyers are keenly aware of just how much a few extra mpgs can save at the pump. As PickupTrucks.com points out, fuel prices are currently a dollar higher right now than they were at the same point last year.

[Ducati888]

So let me get this straight - the dumbarse Yanks thing "going green" is buying a zillion tonne car with a slightly smaller engine to get a whopping 22MPG (WOW!) and that's great and that's going to same them fuel money & save the planet.

Ace. They sure are rocket scientists. That's why NASA is there I suppose.

[chevypower]

Originally Posted by Ducati888

So let me get this straight - the dumbarse Yanks thing "going green" is buying a zillion tonne car with a slightly smaller engine to get a whopping 22MPG (WOW!) and that's great and that's going to same them fuel money & save the planet.

Ace. They sure are rocket scientists. That's why NASA is there I suppose.

Maybe you should also blame the "dumbarse yanks" for your V8 options too.

[kpcart]

that percentage is staggering! american pickup truck drivers are stereotypical v8 lovers... and so many are buying the higher priced eco boost option! Ford Australia needs to get that motor over here as soon as possible. they should put the v6 in the falcon not the 4 cylinder.