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Old 10-09-2011, 06:15 PM   #1
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Default VE 6 cylinder hush up?

Interesting to find out that owners of VE V6's are experiencing lots of timing chain issues that is identified by a logged fault in the computer system, strange how all this has been kept mighty quiet yet people like Herald-Sun motoring writers just get their big thrills out of constantly reporting any fault in a Ford product, ah yes, good old favouritism again!

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Old 10-09-2011, 06:23 PM   #2
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shhh it a holden...

it's the first i've heard of it!!! any proof??
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:39 PM   #3
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shhh it a holden...

it's the first i've heard of it!!! any proof??
wh havent been told because people put chev badges on them and say its a chev problem lol
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:35 PM   #4
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Do tell...
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:41 PM   #5
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Because of the direct injection, and the injectors being exposed to combustion temps, I know of a few VE's v6's that have already had the heads off within first 6 months. I apologise if this is already common knowledge. I don't keep up with the Generals product much.
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:44 PM   #6
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its all a conspiracy against ford
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Old 10-09-2011, 06:45 PM   #7
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Default Re: VE 6 cylinder hush up?

We have two in our family, and a few friends with them.

havent heard of this issue?
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:14 PM   #8
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Havnt heard of any issue as well. Its the biggest selling car in the country Im sure if it was a major issue it would show up, like VWs problem with DSG gearboxes and 1.8litre motors.
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Old 10-09-2011, 08:17 PM   #9
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i know for a fact holdens fix for a noisy gearbox on a newish commodore is some insulation/sound deadener around the shifter hole in the floor
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:12 PM   #10
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like VWs problem with DSG gearboxes and 1.8litre motors.
Yep, I have a mate who has a 3 month old one that has had both replaced already.
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Old 10-09-2011, 09:53 PM   #11
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timing chain issues have been evident since the rattletech motor was released in the vz.
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:25 PM   #12
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timing chain issues have been evident since the rattletech motor was released in the vz.
unrelated, but then..

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i know for a fact holdens fix for a noisy gearbox on a newish commodore is some insulation/sound deadener around the shifter hole in the floor
link??
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:31 PM   #13
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http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11342618

its on the intraweb, it must be true
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:45 PM   #14
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its on the intraweb, it must be true
and i clicked the link..ha ha
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:13 PM   #15
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:06 PM   #16
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timing chain issues have been evident since the rattletech motor was released in the vz.
i was watching fifth gear segment yesterday about rolls royces. aparently Mr Royce didn't want to use chains in his engine because they often break (circa 1911)
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Old 12-09-2011, 12:26 PM   #17
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Prob not a hush up

Just not lil sookies that whinge about everything on their Ford and think EVERYTHING should be covered by a Ford warranty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Waiting for a thread with some one complaining after 12 months that their Ford's Tyres has lost Tyre Pressure!!
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Old 10-09-2011, 10:33 PM   #18
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lol I keep clicking on link and iI`m back where I started .........Bwahahahahah
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Old 10-09-2011, 11:59 PM   #19
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Default Re: VE 6 cylinder hush up?

thats been happening for years timing chain stretch causeing all 4 cam sensors to log codes. it can do damaged to engines as well. good old holden cant get it right. and what about the v8 with the bottom end knock holden have been fitting new carnkshafts and bearings to the ve range.But the ****** boxes keep selling 6 years of the same car what are ppl thinking BRAIN WASHED.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:07 AM   #20
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Default Re: VE 6 cylinder hush up?

Ya know...if it was a real problem it would be kind of hard to keep it hushed up like some big conspiracy when they sell so damn many of them.
Obviously whatever the "computers are logging as a fault" isn't causing catastrophic failures or numerous breakdowns, or someone would have noticed by now and reported it in the media.

"Sound deadener as a fix for noisy gearboxes"? Looking around under our G6E for example, I notice that there's an awful lot of sound deadener in a new Falcon...that 4.0 engine, while being powerful and pleasant to drive and economical, certainly isn't what you could call "smooth and refined" if you actually listen to the thing carefully for a while.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:25 PM   #21
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if it`s a nasty fault give it a bit more time till they start getting some k`s up, people will start having a winge when it cost them money, but time will tell.
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Old 11-09-2011, 02:34 PM   #22
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Quite a common thing with the Alloytech engines. Captiva too. They stretch out after about 2 years. Just one of the many issues with the VE.
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:21 PM   #23
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I told the mother in law who has a VE that has nothing but problems to burn the silly thing, she has been quoted around $28oo to repair the timing chain issue.... maybe she should purchase a XR6, no probs there boys!
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Old 11-09-2011, 06:27 PM   #24
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Ive seen the timing chain issue on VE V6s first hand, had to replace chains on one at my old work, a Ford dealer of all places....apparently a very common problem in early VE's, holden has a TSB on the issue....
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:21 PM   #25
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This sorrow first showed up in the early Alloytecs fitted to the VZ and then early VEs.

It's a shame that Ford's brilliant Duratec 35 and 37 are constantly compared
to the disgraceful GM HFV6, they are worlds apart in terms of reliability......

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It would be a cold day in hell before you ever see a problem like this in the FG Falcon I-6,
stuff like stretched timing chains was cured nearly 20 years ago, hate to be in Holden's shoes.

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Old 12-09-2011, 07:06 AM   #26
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It would be a cold day in hell before you ever see a problem like this in the FG Falcon I-6
Thats probably because Ford has had 50 years worth of development to get the I6 where it is now. And you'd have to have a very short memory to say it has been trouble free over that time. Far from it. Even the FG I6 isn't immune from issues, I have read a number of reports of FG's requiring complete engine replacements on this very forum.
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Old 11-09-2011, 07:27 PM   #27
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Code comes up as code poo18 crankshaft intake camshaft position, long live Ford's brilliant in-line 6!
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Old 24-09-2011, 12:05 PM   #28
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Code comes up as code poo18 crankshaft intake camshaft position!
LOL classic code, Poo is about right
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:08 PM   #29
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one of our cars (Fleet car) a new Holden Cruise Diesel had to go in for engine light coming on they would reset it and give it back to us in the end it took $4,000 dollars worth of Cam repairs to fix it the car had done 5,000Kms
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Old 11-09-2011, 08:19 PM   #30
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Gotta wonder why Ford in so much trouble when their FG is such a great car?, I think the trouble is marketing?
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