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Old 03-11-2011, 03:20 PM   #1
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Default October 2011 sales

Sorry guys, i put up the wrong info, my bad!

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Old 03-11-2011, 05:08 PM   #2
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Don't we normally have information on day 3??
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:01 PM   #3
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Well I can throw up the US figures as a starter.

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/01/o...candy-edition/

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Chrysler Group 27.04% 114,512
Nissan NA 18.02% 82,346
BMW Group 17.51% 27,288
Ford Mo Co 6.25% 167,803
General Motors 1.71% 186,895
American Honda -0.48% 98,333
Toyota Mo Co -7.86% 134,046
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:35 PM   #4
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Will Falcon reach 2,000 sales now EcoLPI has been on sale for a full month?
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:53 PM   #5
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Will Falcon reach 2,000 sales now EcoLPI has been on sale for a full month?
Nope... I dont think so.. Too many holding off for FG2.
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Old 03-11-2011, 07:59 PM   #6
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Will Falcon reach 2,000 sales now EcoLPI has been on sale for a full month?
might be a bit early i think, but i`m betting taxis/fleet will go nuts for the gas henri down the track once word gets out.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:35 PM   #7
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Will Falcon reach 2,000 sales now EcoLPI has been on sale for a full month?
Ive yet to see an ad for the lpg falcon.
Do Ford think that everyone will automatically know about it
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:02 PM   #8
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Ive yet to see an ad for the lpg falcon.
Do Ford think that everyone will automatically know about it
I agree, people who arent really into cars have no idea, even people who are car enthusiats, but not neccessarily ford ones dont know. That only leaves people who are into cars and ford. Needs to get out there more.
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Old 03-11-2011, 10:25 PM   #9
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A week of shutdown at the end of September might have impacted deliveries in October, so we'll wait and see.
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Ranger sales will be interesting. So far hearing good sales numbers.
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Old 04-11-2011, 12:16 PM   #11
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Ford falls to fifth place gets overtaken by Mazda and Hyundai

http://mobile.reuters.com/shortArtic...7M220P20111104

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Toyota's sales continued to recover after supplies of its cars took a particularly hard knock from the earthquake and tsunami. The company held 20.2 percent of the Australian market in October. The Holden unit of GM took 12.0 percent of the market in October, while Hyundai jumped to third spot with 8.8 percent. Mazda followed with 8.2 percent, pipping Ford with 8.1 percent.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:12 PM   #12
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Update:

Falcon 1591 (9th place)

Territory 1230 (top selling SUV)

Fiesta 1034

Focus 789

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Old 04-11-2011, 02:07 PM   #13
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Falcon 1591 (9th place)

This really suprises me as LPG was supposed to be 30% of Falcon sales and its been on sale for 2 months now. Surely with all the pent-up demand from months and months of not having LPG it would be firing along. I assume supplier issues are at hand.
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:15 PM   #14
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This really suprises me as LPG was supposed to be 30% of Falcon sales and its been on sale for 2 months now. Surely with all the pent-up demand from months and months of not having LPG it would be firing along. I assume supplier issues are at hand.
LPG has not been on sale for 2 months... Dealers have only been getting proper stock for the last 5 weeks, and of that the stock that is coming through is pretty ordinary, e.g. XT's that no one wants. There has also been a hold up at the factory end with parts for the LPI cars...

Ford have only been building XR6 petrols and a handful of gas XT's and commercial utes. Once they start rolling out big numbers of XR6, G6 & G6E LPI we will see some changes.

Plus everyones holding off for FGII, either to save on FGI or to get the later car.

The one that worries me now is the Territory, theres plenty of stock out there now and they seem to have dropped back down... They were doing between 900 - 1100 with SYII, 1200 with SZ is pretty poor if you ask me.
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Old 04-11-2011, 01:17 PM   #15
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http://www.caradvice.com.au/144413/o...lips-to-fifth/
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Old 04-11-2011, 02:00 PM   #16
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VW Golf and Camry did very well.


http://www.carpoint.com.au/news/2011...s-market-27512

The top ten selling cars for the month were:
Toyota Corolla (3593),
Toyota Hilux (3480),
Volkswagen Golf (3337),
Mazda3 (3185),
Holden Commodore (3018),
Holden Cruze (2805),
Hyundai i30 (2798),
Toyota Camry (2725),
Ford Falcon (1591),
Mitsubishi Lancer (1549).
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:23 PM   #17
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The Focus is too expensive. I'm also a bit disappointed by it's interiors size. It's far too small for a car of it's class. It's like an inbetween Fiesta and Mazda 3 size when it should be Mazda 3 size.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:35 PM   #18
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Looking at the Camry number, maybe I4 might just save the Falcon? 2,700 & not that far of being the best selling local model either..
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Looking at the Camry number, maybe I4 might just save the Falcon? 2,700 & not that far of being the best selling local model either..
If you add in Aurion 611, it was the best selling local car.
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Looking at the Camry number, maybe I4 might just save the Falcon? 2,700 & not that far of being the best selling local model either..
Actually, Territory is saving Falcon, the average transaction price of mostly diesel sales
with no discounts to speak of means that Ford is roaring along with an impressive product
mix and when FGII comes out, all the $36,990 specials will vanish as there's not much FG I stock....
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:52 PM   #21
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Hopefully they fix the rear end look of Falcon with FG2, because the tail lights are awful.

They are the major let down on how the car looks overall, which is great until you get a rear on view.
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Old 04-11-2011, 06:21 PM   #22
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October was a low production month. Down days, the 11 day shutdown at end of September/start of October plus only building cars to fill orders kept numbers down.

November is the month to get a gauge on how Ford is travelling, production is back to full, stocks are cleared out with no down days and just the 2 days off for Melbourne cup, so there are no excuses.

Focus and Ranger are suffering because Ford can't get enough stock, especially Focus, Ranger now has the shutdown due to the floods to deal with too. Ford really needed Focus to fire but they knew they weren't going to get much stock out of Europe and Thai built models are still at least 6-9 months away. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, these are the 2 most important imported Fords and they can't get what they need.
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If the $36990 specials disappear what will happen to Falcon sales considering almost half of sales are XR6's?
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If the $36990 specials disappear what will happen to Falcon sales considering almost half of sales are XR6's?
Watch and see....

While more than half of all Falcon sales are XR6, not all of them sell for the low $36,990.
Don't forget that originally, a lot of those early this year were built with regular screen and 17" wheels.
The more desirable ones continued to sell at higher prices.

The test will be what Holden does with their new SV6 and whether they continue the discounting
after the new model arrives.....
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sales threads are funny
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Watch and see....

While more than half of all Falcon sales are XR6, not all of them sell for the low $36,990.
Don't forget that originally, a lot of those early this year were built with regular screen and 17" wheels.
The more desirable ones continued to sell at higher prices.

yeah some arent as low as 36990 , some are much lower than that !
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yeah some arent as low as 36990 , some are much lower than that !
Which units and how many?
Be very careful assuming that Ford has thousands of discounted units to sell, Broadmeadows is now pretty bare...

Read that as only old stock, Ford is now only building to order and quick sailing the last of FG 1 stock.

What is of more importance is FG II, you won't be seeing those prices with FG II, not at release anyway.
Look at territory, the RRPs are holding fast and reaping good sales, the same will happen with FG II.
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Which units and how many?
Be very careful assuming that Ford has thousands of discounted units to sell, Broadmeadows is now pretty bare...

Read that as only old stock, Ford is now only building to order and quick sailing the last of FG 1 stock.

What is of more importance is FG II, you won't be seeing those prices with FG II, not at release anyway.
Look at territory, the RRPs are holding fast and reaping good sales, the same will happen with FG II.
As lowriding said, XR6 LE's are at $34,990 drive away.

I may or may not have one on order with manual, curtains, full-sized spare, tint, carpet mats, scuff plates, bootliner, etc. for less than that price...!
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Watch and see....

While more than half of all Falcon sales are XR6, not all of them sell for the low $36,990.
Don't forget that originally, a lot of those early this year were built with regular screen and 17" wheels.
The more desirable ones continued to sell at higher prices.

The test will be what Holden does with their new SV6 and whether they continue the discounting
after the new model arrives.....
Falcon needed more standard equipment to remain competitive. The world and the competition haven't stood still since the launch of the FG. You can't charge more for what people expect should be there in the first place and still expect market share to increase or even stay the same.

So yes the basic equipment is much better in XR6 - it needed to be. Doesn't mean that customers - mostly fleet will see that as worth more. It may however keep Falcon sales numbers ticking along for another two or three years at current prices and stop resale prices of Falcon slipping any further.

All in all something Ford may not be entirely happy with, but will most probably accept.
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Big month for Camry as its in runout mode prior to the new model im assuming. Rental companies love them.
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