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Old 15-06-2012, 12:27 PM   #1
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Default EcoBoost G6E beats Merc E-Class and Audi A6 4cyls

Guys,

Caught the current edition of Motor last night with G6E vs A6 vs E-Class 4cyls and G6E was pretty surprised to see G6E come out on top!

Now, I take what Motor and Wheels say with a grain of salt, but this is a pretty good win regardless...

Well done to the FoA boys!

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Old 15-06-2012, 12:33 PM   #2
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Yes... Now lets hope Ford use it to their advantage, instead of ignoring the good publicity.
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Old 15-06-2012, 12:38 PM   #3
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That is great, as dash said they need to get the word out to people who dont read forums or car mags.

Did they test the others all in auto? Can you get manuals for them too?
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:14 PM   #4
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They were all autos.. the Audi / Merc were both 7 speeds. Both slower then the Falcon, and also pulled up slower then the Falcon...

There needs to be alot more said about the Ecoboost Falcon, in particular the G6E... If you ask me its a world class car let down by a few shortcomings.
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:20 PM   #5
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Agreed. This is absolutely worth bragging about until the cows come home. No journalist has had more than a minor quibble here or there with regards to this thing and now that it's knocked off a couple of highly sought after aspirational marques, it's time to get the word out
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They were all autos.. the Audi / Merc were both 7 speeds. Both slower then the Falcon, and also pulled up slower then the Falcon...

There needs to be alot more said about the Ecoboost Falcon, in particular the G6E... If you ask me its a world class car let down by a few shortcomings.
The shortcomings are Ford failing to capatilise on this and advertise the facts!
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Old 21-06-2012, 08:46 PM   #7
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They were all autos.. the Audi / Merc were both 7 speeds. Both slower then the Falcon, and also pulled up slower then the Falcon...

There needs to be alot more said about the Ecoboost Falcon, in particular the G6E... If you ask me its a world class car let down by a few shortcomings.
That there needs to be an ad. But those Germans don't like being picked on. Maybe FoA are scared of any retaliation?

They have nothing to lose. "Out performed an Audi and a Merc." - This will make people do a double take and say "What the f...?"
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:28 PM   #8
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The article was a great one. The Fuel economy was close even though the official economy of the German's was a lot lower and the G6E quite a bit quicker. The only shortcoming with the G6E was the quality of the interior and the number of technological toys.
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The article was a great one. The Fuel economy was close even though the official economy of the German's was a lot lower and the G6E quite a bit quicker. The only shortcoming with the G6E was the quality of the interior and the number of technological toys.
And to be honest I dont know what they expected.

It has satnav, touch screen, reverse camera, bluetooth, bluetooth streaming, 6 way power drivers seat with memory.... What more do they want? A set of xenon headlights and perhaps a sunroof would probably fix most of their issues, but for the money you really cannot beat it.

I would like to see it up against Honda Accord Euro Luxury and Mazda 6... Cars which it is more closely priced.
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And to be honest I dont know what they expected.

It has satnav, touch screen, reverse camera, bluetooth, bluetooth streaming, 6 way power drivers seat with memory.... What more do they want? A set of xenon headlights and perhaps a sunroof would probably fix most of their issues, but for the money you really cannot beat it.

I would like to see it up against Honda Accord Euro Luxury and Mazda 6... Cars which it is more closely priced.
I agree with your call to see it compared against more closely priced cars.

BUT there are a whole host of fancy gimmicks that could be added to the G6E. Granted, they add cost, and granted, not everybody needs them, but being a top of the range luxury model, it should have them. It's lacking things like adaptive cruise, blind spot monitor, front parking sensors, keyless entry (I don't mean the push button remote kind, but the walk up to the door and it automatically opens kind) and keyless start, panoramic sunroof, 4-zone climate control, self parking etc. I can think of cars that are cheaper or about the same price as the G6E that has the above features bar the 4-zone climate control.
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Old 15-06-2012, 01:32 PM   #11
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You are right that they need to say more about Ecoboost. I see plenty of Ford ads these days but none mention the Ecoboost Falcon, which is a real shame.
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Can't wait to read the article to get insight into the lows and highs of each model and what their criteria was.
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Old 15-06-2012, 02:01 PM   #13
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No doubt the G6E won massively on price!
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No doubt the G6E won massively on price!
I reckon if you won lotto you would complain that you had to go to the bank to pick the money up......

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I reckon if you won lotto you would complain that you had to go to the bank to pick the money up......
youve totally misinterpreted my comment. My statement means that the EcoBoost would kill the other 2 on price, i.e the 2 euros would be very expensive for what you get.
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I reckon if you won lotto you would complain that you had to go to the bank to pick the money up......
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We can talk about all the gizmos that the G6E may lack, but the most galling thing is how many passengers in my 2010 G6 50th Anniversary comment on how tinny the car sounds, especially going over loose stones or mud. It's a great car to drive, but perceptions like "tinniness" can be a sales killer for other persons, particularly prestige buyers. To be honest my old XY Falcon 500 sounded better over the rougher stuff. Would it be possible to add some form of a wheel arch or floorpan sound deadener, like plastic or synthetic rubber to the FG?
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Would it be possible to add some form of a wheel arch or floorpan sound deadener, like plastic or synthetic rubber to the FG?
FG MKII had a lot of sound deadening added, so maybe a lot of this "tinnyness" is gone now. I didn't notice any when I test drove an Ecoboost XT, but maybe I was enjoying the drive too much
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We can talk about all the gizmos that the G6E may lack, but the most galling thing is how many passengers in my 2010 G6 50th Anniversary comment on how tinny the car sounds, especially going over loose stones or mud. It's a great car to drive, but perceptions like "tinniness" can be a sales killer for other persons, particularly prestige buyers. To be honest my old XY Falcon 500 sounded better over the rougher stuff. Would it be possible to add some form of a wheel arch or floorpan sound deadener, like plastic or synthetic rubber to the FG?
Wow my XR50 is quiet as! The only thing I hear is tyre roar on some surfaces but nothing tinny. If you want tinny, check out a MY99 WRX. Now that was a tin can on wheels. Albeit a fast tin can.

Ford need to advertise this Ecoboost and fast!
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Did any one else notice the difference in qtr mile time from WHEELS and MOTOR for th ecoboost? One got 14.8 the other 15.2..WTF?
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Did any one else notice the difference in qtr mile time from WHEELS and MOTOR for th ecoboost? One got 14.8 the other 15.2..WTF?
Wheels test the cars with 2 people, full fuel on an ordinary road to simulate normal drivin gonditions.
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Wheels test the cars with 2 people, full fuel on an ordinary road to simulate normal drivin gonditions.
Ah thankx, But I still thought that 14.8 was aboslutley crazy for a car the size of a falcon, with a 4 banger realing off those numbers. They might drop the six in favour of this thing if it really does perform that well. Just need to give it more torque for towing!
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7G Tronic boxes in Merc are very average bits of kit, 6 speed ZF is far more efficient, much smoother and out of this world more intuative / adaptive.
Honest opinion from someone who has both. So many enthusiasts on here take the brilliance of the german designed ZF for granted. Its a world class bit of kit yet you never hear Ford trumpeting the news, go figure ?
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Now they just need Ford EcoBoost ... Euro beater in their ads.
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Need some clever ad's.. kind of like the "your-move" and "check mate" bill board ads of the euro/german brands.

This needs to be shouted from the roof tops!!!
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great results for EB.. But what's the point when Ford refuse to tell another they even built the EB in the first place??
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WOW came up behind an ECOBOOST Falcon yesterday an thought great they have sold one!!got beside it and BIG letters on the side ECOBOOST, a Fraud company Car!! ah well.
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I wonder, a G6ET with an Ecoboost option..... heck, even the V6 diesel too
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I wonder, a G6ET with an Ecoboost option..... heck, even the V6 diesel too
Huh? You can get a G6E EB4 cant you?

I know we are all sick of Ford changing names, but G6 doesnt really work with the EB4 does it..but you cant call it a G4 (well you should but the bogans wont like it)...hmm

TDi would be a massive winner...massive.
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Huh? You can get a G6E EB4 cant you?
Yes but does a G6E have the same level of trim and options as the G6ET?
Was wanting to see top of the line G series with choice of engines...

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I know we are all sick of Ford changing names, but G6 doesnt really work with the EB4 does it..but you cant call it a G4 (well you should but the bogans wont like it)...hmm
For Ecoboost and V6 Diesel, how about Zetec and Titanium.

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It could add some high end sales..not a bad thing IMO.
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