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03-01-2013, 12:15 AM | #1 | |||
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03-01-2013, 08:22 AM | #2 | ||
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I believe it after seeing how even my workplace's car park has changed over the last 12 months..
Honestly you'd think I worked for Mazda. They really did nail it by droping the "23" from the 323 badge, change a few things up, good marketing, bam, a winner.
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03-01-2013, 09:43 AM | #3 | ||
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The whole "zoom zoom zoom" thing seems to have worked.
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04-01-2013, 08:22 PM | #5 | ||
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Not for the year it didn't, it came 5th overall
1st: Mazda 3 2nd: Hilux 3rd: Corolla 4th: Commodore 5th: Cruze It does surprise me a bit how well the Cruze sold, more surprising is how well the Hilux sold! Way overpriced and half a generation behind Ranger, BT50, Amarok and Navara.
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04-01-2013, 09:31 PM | #6 | ||
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Navara is just as far behind as Hilux is. Only good point is the TD V6.
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03-01-2013, 11:15 AM | #7 | ||
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The Mazda 3 is cheap and has a good advertising campaign. Mazda's 'zoom zoom' makes it seem more lively than the Corolla which is bought by the oldies and the lawn bowls brigade.
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03-01-2013, 07:54 PM | #9 | ||
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03-01-2013, 01:00 PM | #10 | ||
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There is talk of them doing a MPS 6 for the new model. I doubt it as the original MPS 6 wasn't the sales success in the US they needed it to be to justify the money they spent in developing it. There is alot of inherent tweeks they did in the torque control in the AWD system allowing AWD drifts and switching the traction control off if you pull the handbrake mid corner with power on. Really cool stuff for those using it as more than just transport.
I'm pretty sure the 2.3 direct injection turbo engine is dead and burried once the current MPS 3 has a model change. Mazda has gone the ECO, quality route with great success in Australia. The only thing that will have them go the performance options on the new 6 if it was a global sales success, beyond their expectations. At the moment they are all hands on deck making sure they stay around as a viable Automotive company in their own right, without needing to taken over (ala Chrysler).
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03-01-2013, 08:04 PM | #11 | |||
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03-01-2013, 08:09 PM | #12 | ||
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Has the engine started smoking or rattling on them yet?
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03-01-2013, 08:33 PM | #13 | ||
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Did, fixed under warranty. The first generation pcv system was poorly designed but now I have the revised head and system all good. The new models don't seem to have the same problem..
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03-01-2013, 08:37 PM | #14 | |||
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03-01-2013, 10:10 PM | #15 | |||
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03-01-2013, 11:03 PM | #16 | ||
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A girl at work recently bought a new Mazda 3. When questioned why, she said 'because it's cute and all my friends have one'.
Typical brain dead sheep that is the Australian consumer. |
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03-01-2013, 11:13 PM | #17 | ||
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we have had one since 2006 and it is a sensational car. by far the best car i have owned, and i have owned quite a few. maybe that is the reason Mazda have sold so many of them.
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03-01-2013, 11:23 PM | #18 | ||
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Oh, so it has nothing to do with the fact that the Mazda 3 has great resale and build quality, plenty of features, is very safe, and gets excellent fuel economy. No, people buy them because they are brain dead sheep!
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03-01-2013, 11:59 PM | #19 | |||
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Yes, people do buy them because they are sheep. Ask the average Mazda 3 owner about their cars and very few of them have any sort of clue about the factors you mention. They simply bought one "because everyone else is buying them". |
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04-01-2013, 11:37 AM | #20 | ||
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Umm going back a few years ago now, wasn't that basically the same argument you would use against Commodore and Falcon?
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04-01-2013, 02:59 AM | #21 | |||
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My gut reaction is that they believe that as its Japanese it will be reliable and good quality, they are happy with the purchase price, they like the looks and features ... And they are more comfortable buying a popular car. I doubt it's any more technical than that .. |
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04-01-2013, 11:38 AM | #22 | |||
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04-01-2013, 11:58 AM | #23 | ||
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popular doesn't equal best. anna kournikova could fill the stands but couldn't play tennis to save her life.
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04-01-2013, 10:34 AM | #24 | ||
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Sorry sport.......and this may come as a bit of a shock to you and those with the same attitude, but you are a sheep to......you just belong to a different flock is all....
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03-01-2013, 11:47 PM | #25 | |||
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03-01-2013, 11:51 PM | #26 | ||
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Some interesting although somewhat pathetic replies to be read, some people would call it being 'one eyed'.
The 3 and 6 for that matter are both good quality cars, assuming all consumers are sheep is just plain old dumb. It will be very interesting how the sales race pans out once Mazda release the all new 3. |
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04-01-2013, 12:08 AM | #27 | ||
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It's also pure economics and the reason I'm buying one for the wife.
F6 Running costs: Tyres - $900+ (4 x fitted and balanced, cheaper brand), or $1200+ for name brand Servicing - $300 (capped price) Fuel - $90 p/w (min spend) Rego - $900 p/y Mazda 3 Tyres - $400 (4 x new) Servicing - $200-ish Fuel - $60p/w (based off friends who own them and do 400km+/pw) Rego - $700-ish p/y These are rough figures for the Mazda 3 based on what a mechanic friend of mine has advised but you see it's no where near the cost of a family sedan (albeit a thirsty one) |
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04-01-2013, 02:43 AM | #28 | ||
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A Mazda 3 article with three lines kicking Falcon in the guts.
...oh... I see how they got there.
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04-01-2013, 07:33 AM | #29 | ||
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The girl probably bought a 3 as said because her friends recommended the car and she liked the look. Same reason why Mick Bogan buys a Falcadore cause his mates all have one or his father had one and did his thinking for him. Sheep come in all sizes.
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04-01-2013, 07:33 AM | #30 | ||
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Dude most of them are women who know nothing about cars (yes I'm generalising, but most dont) they just think it's cute and it's got satnav and blue tooth.
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