Falcon parts post 2016. Please read!!!

[P6LTD351]

I have noticed that in many of the threads, people are asking whether parts will be available for the Falcon post 2016.

Yes they will be, until at least 2026. Ford have confirmed this and it is a legal requirement.

Please spread the news as this will be an important factor in consumer confidence over the next 3 years.

[No.6]

good to know! This has put the FH back into contention amongst other cars im thinking of purchasing in the next year or 2.

[tweeked]

Strange how people think this is an issue. Do they think that the factory kicks over at 3 o'clock at the moment and starts making BA panels for spares???? Any 380's out there that cannot be repaired???

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Strange how people think this is an issue. Do they think that the factory kicks over at 3 o'clock at the moment and starts making BA panels for spares???? Any 380's out there that cannot be repaired???

I see what you're saying, but outside of car enthusiasts, the general public has these concerns.

We can do our best to dispel the concern with facts whenever we hear relatives or friends ask the question.

[DanielXR8]

Well you can be sure some parts will get pretty scare and fairly quickly too, if history is a guide -especially if you have a limited edition model or one that isn't the main seller. Sure main mechanical bits and servicable items usually are ok, but things like trim pieces, badges, stickers, certain alloy wheels, exterior and interior trim etc can start to get rare pretty quick.

I can remember finding myself at wrecking yards three or four years after a car was discontinued because certain parts weren't stocked by Ford anymore. Hopefully Falcon and Territory will fair better.

[Road_Warrior]

Well, when I buy my FU Falcon I'll be buying up a whole heap of trim pieces and those other hard to get things for later.

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Well, when I buy my FU Falcon I'll be buying up a whole heap of trim pieces and those other hard to get things for later.

Thumbs up mate. And long live the FU Falcon!

[tweeked]

Are they really going to call it the FU Falcon?

Talk about irony!!!

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by tweeked

Are they really going to call it the FU Falcon?

Talk about irony!!!

I'd love them to call it that, but lol, just a fun suggestion from some of us.

[Elks]

Well you can't get parts for current Volkswagens and people still buy them.

Seriously I can't see parts being a problem.

[baboon]

Just use 3d printers for parts in the future

[Nikked]

The parts world is odd...cant get a few things like gaurds and grilles for a VE...yet you can buy stuff for 380s...


Even after 2026 we'll befine...

[FNQracing]

Originally Posted by baboon

Just use 3d printers for parts in the future

I suspect you may be only half joking, but its true. The sky's the limit as the technology evolves. My neighbour is already making plastic parts for his appliance repair business in his study.

[baboon]

Originally Posted by FNQracing

I suspect you may be only half joking, but its true. The sky's the limit as the technology evolves. My neighbour is already making plastic parts for his appliance repair business in his study.

Yeah I wasnt sure if the tech went beyond plastic, but with my limited knowledge it hasn't gone to metal yet?

[madmelon]

Originally Posted by baboon

Yeah I wasnt sure if the tech went beyond plastic, but with my limited knowledge it hasn't gone to metal yet?

Metal 3D printing is possible but its a different process.


Back on topic- for those worried about getting parts-they stopped producing the AU in 2002 but you can still get psrts for that...this isn't really much different.

[Madaya]

Originally Posted by baboon

Yeah I wasnt sure if the tech went beyond plastic, but with my limited knowledge it hasn't gone to metal yet?

Trying to rid myself of the grim knowledge that it's all over - gees, I was to young to purchase a Valiant when it was all over for them .
I still get a nice feeling when I see a nice CM Valiant. It's the only time I wish I was a few years older. Thank God, Dad purchased the 4.1 XC Wagon (in bright orange ), I learnt a lot about Ford. I was tuning Dad's car, doing oil changes and stuff, even before I had a licence. My older brothers first car was a $1000 XP, auto with a Super Pursuit motor. Had a few probs with that one but went really well. I ended up with Dads first car, purchased when the family landed in Australia in 1970. The Valiant AP6 Wagon. I remember the chat we had when he said he vested the old car into my hands. It hardly ran, had holes in the floor you could climb through and more rust than steel. But I was over the moon. My first car.
So here I am with my FG Ute, christened (don't laugh, this was spoken in absolute innocence by my girl) 'Mr Happy'. As I've explained in another thread,
it's because in my personal world of grim tidings, that little blue ute with all the fruit (like I say, all I wanted was a plain, ordinary Falcon Ute), puts a smile on this fifty year old face.
One day (soon), you will dump data into a machine and it will produce whatever Falcon you want (entire cars), or an apple you can eat.

Don't stress about parts. This is the 21st century.

[stevz]

The sky will not fall down if parts become obsolete. I'm sure anyone will be able to find what they need at the wreckers. Second hand parts are good enough in 99% of cases.

[djjase]

You do know that it's not only Ford who makes the spare parts - we have our Korean friends who make lots of spare parts.

They are still making reproduction stuff for cars from the 70's.

If your so worried go and buy a spare parts car and store it for later use. Actually buy a couple and you will be able to make millions by selling them over priced on Flea Bay in 2020

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by djjase

You do know that it's not only Ford who makes the spare parts - we have our Korean friends who make lots of spare parts.

They are still making reproduction stuff for cars from the 70's.

If your so worried go and buy a spare parts car and store it for later use. Actually buy a couple and you will be able to make millions by selling them over priced on Flea Bay in 2020

You're speaking to enthusiasts with what you're saying. Preaching to the converted.

The general public want to be able to go down to the spare parts section and know that genuine parts are available.

I want that word to spread around.

[Darren351]

Ford will say that parts will be available as they need to still sell cars until 2016.
but in reality will it really happen ? not a chance!
there is no legal requirements to supply parts for 10 years. this is a myth. plenty of late model FPV,s getting written off or stored in the corner because panel shops cannot buy parts for them. Plenty of parts on a BF Falcon only 5yrs old that you cannot buy parts for if you smash it.

I cant see ford having a huge buy up to load shelves with spare parts when the plants close. and as the current suppliers go broke or close the doors due to lack of work , Ford will not get the parts made elsewhere they will just make them obsolete.

you will be able to service ya ford but dont rely on parts if something out of the ordinary breaks or it gets damaged.

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by Darren351

Ford will say that parts will be available as they need to still sell cars until 2016.
but in reality will it really happen ? not a chance!
there is no legal requirements to supply parts for 10 years. this is a myth. plenty of late model FPV,s getting written off or stored in the corner because panel shops cannot buy parts for them. Plenty of parts on a BF Falcon only 5yrs old that you cannot buy parts for if you smash it.

I cant see ford having a huge buy up to load shelves with spare parts when the plants close. and as the current suppliers go broke or close the doors due to lack of work , Ford will not get the parts made elsewhere they will just make them obsolete.

you will be able to service ya ford but dont rely on parts if something out of the ordinary breaks or it gets damaged.

It's not a myth. But great, spread that around. That will make people feel confident.

[BennyH]

Originally Posted by Darren351

Ford will say that parts will be available as they need to still sell cars until 2016.
but in reality will it really happen ? not a chance!
there is no legal requirements to supply parts for 10 years. this is a myth. plenty of late model FPV,s getting written off or stored in the corner because panel shops cannot buy parts for them. Plenty of parts on a BF Falcon only 5yrs old that you cannot buy parts for if you smash it.

I cant see ford having a huge buy up to load shelves with spare parts when the plants close. and as the current suppliers go broke or close the doors due to lack of work , Ford will not get the parts made elsewhere they will just make them obsolete.

you will be able to service ya ford but dont rely on parts if something out of the ordinary breaks or it gets damaged.

Despite this, there are always after market options. Look at fibresports for an example.

[XR6T0Y]

Originally Posted by Darren351

Ford will say that parts will be available as they need to still sell cars until 2016.
but in reality will it really happen ? not a chance!
there is no legal requirements to supply parts for 10 years. this is a myth. plenty of late model FPV,s getting written off or stored in the corner because panel shops cannot buy parts for them. Plenty of parts on a BF Falcon only 5yrs old that you cannot buy parts for if you smash it.

I cant see ford having a huge buy up to load shelves with spare parts when the plants close. and as the current suppliers go broke or close the doors due to lack of work , Ford will not get the parts made elsewhere they will just make them obsolete.

you will be able to service ya ford but dont rely on parts if something out of the ordinary breaks or it gets damaged.

Yeah spread the doom and gloom. Way to go hero

[ratter]

Ford still manufacture AU bonnets as example, if there is a market for product somebody will make it, if it's not ford, somebody will possibly step up and purchase the dyes/moulds from ford and reproduce the required part.

[Dazz94]

I still plan on buying a new falcon when I can, it was my plan since I first got my p's to upgrade from my BA xr6 to a new one, and this changes nothing, there are always after market parts available, and if you keep the car in generally good condition anyway than you shouldn't need too many spare parts anyway.

[Spurious]

Are ford going to move manufacturing offshore? or can aussies expect the market to be flooded with euro or american built fords without the import tax. I here ford are struggling 'cause they don't export the falcons. I say "why not'? Holden have made their cars popular overseas exporting to places like saudi arabia. Toyota do the same thing (4X4's). If its big and has lots of power the saudi's will buy it. In my opinion I would like to see a lot of Mustangs flood the aussie market. Maybe i'll get one when they age and get a bit cheaper. I also think that falcons and other models would possibly be worth more into the future if they wind up with some type of 'rare' quality about them. Look at micheal jackson memorabilia, big business now the two toned bloke is dead! I mean I bought an 85 XF s-pack in 1999 for $650, sold it in 2010 for $2000 and could have gotten more if I'd been prepared to wait for the right buyer! I now own an AU2 built 4/2000 with a factory fitted tickford suspension. I won't be selling it in a hurry if falcons are going out of production. By 2030 they will hold their own value and insurance companies will have to give a real nice agreed value to clients. By 2008 I had shannons insure my XF for almost 6K, I just mentioned the "custom fitted' interior and sound system and they were all for it. They also agreed to lock in the 'agreed value' for life so the coverage wouldn't decrease over time. Food for thought.

[ratter]

Ford are an american based company, they export large american fords already, do not believe they would want aussie fords eating in to their export sales and risk thier own people loosing jobs.

Most people will look after their own before helping others

[ryeman]

ZACLY ....OneFord was the death knell for Oz.

[tranquilized]

Forgetting for a moment about spreading positive or negative messages about parts availability, what is the actual truth? Is there a 10 year requirement by law or not?

I sold Ford parts for a few years, and always found it strange what was and wasn't available. Interior trim parts for example would become obsolete very quickly, as in a year or so after the model finished. On the other hand there were still a few brand new genuine parts current for XY Falcons in 1999. This 10 year requirement obviously doesn't apply to all parts, so if it does actually exist how is it determined which parts need to be kept current for that period?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by tranquilized

Forgetting for a moment about spreading positive or negative messages about parts availability, what is the actual truth? Is there a 10 year requirement by law or not?

I sold Ford parts for a few years, and always found it strange what was and wasn't available. Interior trim parts for example would become obsolete very quickly, as in a year or so after the model finished. On the other hand there were still a few brand new genuine parts current for XY Falcons in 1999. This 10 year requirement obviously doesn't apply to all parts, so if it does actually exist how is it determined which parts need to be kept current for that period?

The law says they must make all efforts to ensure there is at least a 10 year supply, but if they underestimate and run out in a short time then that's all they need to do, they can't be prosecuted for it. The onus is on them to have enough parts for 10 years, and if that doesn't happen then Ford don't have to do a thing about it. So they have heaps of parts that run out within a few years because they seem to be hopeless at predicting how many parts they will need. But then again they probably overpredict a lot of stuff too and it sits around the warehouse for 20 years. But I also think Ford probably like to underestimate so they don't have millions of dollars of parts sitting around costing them money. I don't think it will be any different for the FG and its update model. They will just estimate they need a certain amount of parts to last 10 years, make them and if they run out within a year then stiff ****.

Common parts shared between all models are easy, especially stuff like panels and service items, its the unique parts only used by certain models, especially FPV's, that are the hardest to obtain over time. Stuff like unique badging, interior trims etc.