Club rego scams

[Boza]

Is it just me or are people putting anything they can on to club rego oh and sorry just realised was talking about Victoria in general not sure bout other states.

Well this morning was behind a clapped out rusty ad hell hilux thought how the hell did that pass then saw a late 80s early 90s 7 series beamer all dirty and blowing smoke but what sealed it for me was seen a couple of range rover disco"s that looked like they were ready for the crusher all the panels dented rust holes the size of tennis ball broken rear glass on one of them and so on.

What I wanna know is how are these vehicles getting any sort of rego let alone club rego. Don't you need an rwc and inspection at vicroads to a vehicle registered these cars look like the type vicroads want off the road not on them am I missing something here or is there a massive scam involving club rego here in Victoria

[Murph-51]

its completely legal.....................








until you get caught

[2011G6E]

Originally Posted by Murph-51

its completely legal.....................








until you get caught

I know a guy who's been driving his restored old truck on club rego for maybe twenty years. No problems. It's a proper classic truck and is immaculate.

I think the reason they don't "crack down on it" is that 99% of club rego vehicles are probably better maintained and looked after than most newer cars.

Our WB ute, when finished, will be put on club rego.

Still, I'm a firm believer that if you have several cars/motorbikes, you should pay one "registration" and have one set of plates that you swap from vehicle to vehicle, with a small fee for each extra car/bike. You can only drive one at a time anyway, and having one rego plate would negate the criticism that "you'll just put your mates cars on it and all drive around on the one rego".

[BadMax]

Disco with rust holes? I'd like to see that! IIRC they are all aluminium.

BTW, club reg on a bush basher makes perfect sense to me. It's not limited to pristine examples of what you may perceive as enthusiast cars.

[SVTVNM]

Should see down my neck of the woods, it's beyond a joke what gets around here on club-reg. I've even seen a clapped out old early Isuzu truck on club reg, I understand that not everything on club reg has to be concours condition but since the rules have been changed it is clear people and some clubs are making a joke of the system. The majority of genuine club guys with vehicle would have well maintained and RWC vehicle but how many out there now that are abusing the system are doing it to get out of it with cheap rego and RWC.. RANT over!

[michael_ozzie]

Originally Posted by SVTVNM

Should see down my neck of the woods, it's beyond a joke what gets around here on club-reg. I've even seen a clapped out old early Isuzu truck on club reg, I understand that not everything on club reg has to be concours condition but since the rules have been changed it is clear people and some clubs are making a joke of the system. The majority of genuine club guys with vehicle would have well maintained and RWC vehicle but how many out there now that are abusing the system are doing it to get out of it with cheap rego and RWC.. RANT over!

Just so you know, there are clubs that involve more than simply owning and driving a car. A club such as the one I am part of, utilises Club Registration to allow vehicles of age to be modified for racing, so stripped out interior, roll cage, etc.

I completely agree about cracking down on the logbook, sooner the better.

[SVTVNM]

Originally Posted by michael_ozzie

Just so you know, there are clubs that involve more than simply owning and driving a car. A club such as the one I am part of, utilises Club Registration to allow vehicles of age to be modified for racing, so stripped out interior, roll cage, etc.

I completely agree about cracking down on the logbook, sooner the better.

Michael that's cool seen plenty of cars that look like rally vehicles etc.. on club reg that's understandable my personal issue is people with cars/vehicles that are clearly ****** boxes abusing the new system to get out of it with cheap rego..

[Silver Ghia]

To obtain a club permit, the owner must supply to Vicroads a current certificate of roadworthiness or a letter from a scrutineer authorised by the club, stating that the vehicle is safe for use on the road.

To me the second option is a bit dubious, in fact the club I belong to only signs the application form when a copy of the rwc is supplied, which they keep in their records.

[adamRSLC]

Across the road at work their is a EA , 3 VL's and an XE all on club rego . All but one are daily drivers , it's a great system but being abused heavily in Victoria atm .

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by adamRSLC

Across the road at work their is a EA , 3 VL's and an XE all on club rego . All but one are daily drivers , it's a great system but being abused heavily in Victoria atm .

There is an old ute on club plates which I see parked in the main shopping strip just about every day, I believe it belongs to a shop keeper. The permit only allows 45 or 90 days use per year (depending on which was nominated), so I'd love to see his logbook.

Its about time they clamp down on these offenders as its making the system look bad.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

There is an old ute on club plates which I see parked in the main shopping strip just about every day, I believe it belongs to a shop keeper. The permit only allows 45 or 90 days use per year (depending on which was nominated), so I'd love to see his logbook.

Its about time they clamp down on these offenders as its making the system look bad.

So the restriction imposed is one based on days driven in Vic? I guess age come into it as well.

Seems like a better system than in NSW. Much stricter here I think, can only drive x km from home for maintenance and to and from mechanics / inspectors, the rest of the outings must be on registered club events.

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

So the restriction imposed is one based on days driven in Vic? I guess age come into it as well.

Seems like a better system than in NSW. Much stricter here I think, can only drive x km from home for maintenance and to and from mechanics / inspectors, the rest of the outings must be on registered club events.

For historic plates, the car needs to be over 25 years old. Seems your system in NSW was similar to how it used to be in Vic. I had a car on the old Vic system some years ago, I found it too restrictive so I then registered it fully.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Yellow_Festiva

So the restriction imposed is one based on days driven in Vic? I guess age come into it as well.

Seems like a better system than in NSW. Much stricter here I think, can only drive x km from home for maintenance and to and from mechanics / inspectors, the rest of the outings must be on registered club events.

The Victorian system used to be similar, but now you can drive the car anywhere at anytime (with or without the Club) but for a maximum of 90 days per year

The log book issue is policed up my way, we were about to head off on a club run and a Policecar pulled up and 'reminded' everyone to have their log books filled in, penalty for not $550+ plus fine for driving an unregistered vehicle

[DJR-351]

Won't be a problem soon as all the car enthusiasts are apparently dying out so there will be no reason for clubs and club rego.......

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

The Victorian system used to be similar, but now you can drive the car anywhere at anytime (with or without the Club) but for a maximum of 90 days per year

The log book issue is policed up my way, we were about to head off on a club run and a Policecar pulled up and 'reminded' everyone to have their log books filled in, penalty for not $550+ plus fine for driving an unregistered vehicle

Seems like a more reasonable system. Would love to have an EB / EL GT in the garage one day for the odd weekend run but paying full rego on a bunch of cars makes it hard.

[Bearman]

Originally Posted by Silver Ghia

There is an old ute on club plates which I see parked in the main shopping strip just about every day, I believe it belongs to a shop keeper. The permit only allows 45 or 90 days use per year (depending on which was nominated), so I'd love to see his logbook.

Its about time they clamp down on these offenders as its making the system look bad.

They will, and this guy will get his comeuppence!!

The Police do actively check logbooks, quite a few people in the club I'm in have been pulled over and had their logbooks checked.

At the recent Hardtop Anniversary in Echuca the police were very active between Heathcote and Elmore pulling over club plated cars on the way up.

I am confident that people doing the wrong thing will be caught.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by adamRSLC

Across the road at work their is a EA , 3 VL's and an XE all on club rego . All but one are daily drivers , it's a great system but being abused heavily in Victoria atm .

the car has to be over 25 years old to be on club rego and you can use them on Club Rego for a maximum of 90 days in a year. I think the EA fits in there, XE's are now 30 years old at least

[Itsme]

If clubs or members are scamming then it is only matter of time they will get caught out by the authorities.

As for cars in RWC condition I'm sure the police know how to do Road worthy checks

[Boza]

As for cars in RWC condition I'm sure the police know how to do Road worthy checks

Your joking about police doing rwc checks they don't know squat i had a cop make me open the bonnet on a egas bf wagon point to the gas convertor and say that my turbo was mounted illegally then he pointed to the exhaust manifold and asked what the silver stuff was hiding mind you this was a hwy patrol sergeant it took me half an hour on my phone showing him turbo engine bays vs na engine bays so please tell me that cops know whats going with rec checks

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Boza

As for cars in RWC condition I'm sure the police know how to do Road worthy checks

Your joking about police doing rwc checks they don't know squat i had a cop make me open the bonnet on a egas bf wagon point to the gas convertor and say that my turbo was mounted illegally then he pointed to the exhaust manifold and asked what the silver stuff was hiding mind you this was a hwy patrol sergeant it took me half an hour on my phone showing him turbo engine bays vs na engine bays so please tell me that cops know whats going with rec checks

Well you do get some Noddy's at times (lol) but in general they will canary you with inspection incomplete so then you will have to get a RWC.

[BadMax]

Yep, enough complaints and Vicroads will pull the system. I'm so glad every single one of you have perfectly maintained vehicles which are all 100% legally and 100% engineered for modifications...

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Boza

Is it just me or are people putting anything they can on to club rego oh and sorry just realised was talking about Victoria in general not sure bout other states.

Well this morning was behind a clapped out rusty ad hell hilux thought how the hell did that pass then saw a late 80s early 90s 7 series beamer all dirty and blowing smoke but what sealed it for me was seen a couple of range rover disco"s that looked like they were ready for the crusher all the panels dented rust holes the size of tennis ball broken rear glass on one of them and so on.

What I wanna know is how are these vehicles getting any sort of rego let alone club rego. Don't you need an rwc and inspection at vicroads to a vehicle registered these cars look like the type vicroads want off the road not on them am I missing something here or is there a massive scam involving club rego here in Victoria

Vicroads is doing a review of the Club Rego scheme and the main thing they are looking at is the 'road-worthiness' of the cars, including cars under 'H' (historic) rego when they should be under the 'SR" (street rod), due the modifications of some cars on 'H' rego

[XW-BAXR6T]

So how does it work? club rego is how much to register? you still keep old number plates while still having club rego?

Thanks in advance.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by XW-BAXR6T

So how does it work? club rego is how much to register? you still keep old number plates while still having club rego?

Thanks in advance.

You need to be a member of a Vicroads registered club (refer to Vicroads website for the list)

Every club has different requirements for issuing club rego's to their members, you need to ask before you join, for example a former club I was with for club rego required a RWC for the car when you first wanted club rego, then a mechanics letter every year after that stating that the car was OK. My current car club insists that the car be 'registered' before you join the club, then after 12 months and having been on 4 'runs' with the car you can swap over to their club rego

Once you get approved, you pay Vicroads $66 for 45 days of using the car, if you want another 45 days you just go back to Vicroads and pay another $66, not sure about number plates costs, it was a while ago

[Silver Ghia]

Originally Posted by Trevor 57

Once you get approved, you pay Vicroads $66 for 45 days of using the car, if you want another 45 days you just go back to Vicroads and pay another $66, not sure about number plates costs, it was a while ago

I paid $69.30 yesterday to put one of my cars onto club plates (45 day permit). Includes logbook and plates. I had to pay $160 for a full rwc (which I got at the first inspection without any work needed beforehand), but thats a once off expense.

RWC's here in Vic are a lot harder to get these days. Previously one could get one written out by a friend or relative, but now they need to take photos which are kept in file, and be quite thorough. But club scrutineers (if a club has that option) could be influenced....

I kept my old plates as they were personalised (belongs with the car), but I have heard of people keeping their original general issue plates, which you would want to if the car was a collectors item like a very original XA GT.

One additional thing with these club plates, you are allowed to drive within a 100 metre radius of the registered address without having to fill in the logbook.

But if you are competing in a midnight event which extends from one day to another, that counts as two days in the logbook.

[Hulsty]

I got club rego on my 4x4, its great! $70 a year for 45 days, new plates, cannot keep old ones. Insurance is now $95 too. For our club, car has to be road worthy and club scrutineers letter.

[Yellow_Festiva]

Originally Posted by Hulsty

I got club rego on my 4x4, its great! $70 a year for 45 days, new plates, cannot keep old ones. Insurance is now $95 too. For our club, car has to be road worthy and club scrutineers letter.

A fair bit of coin saved over full rego and insurance!

[au2000]

Originally Posted by Hulsty

I got club rego on my 4x4, its great! $70 a year for 45 days, new plates, cannot keep old ones. Insurance is now $95 too. For our club, car has to be road worthy and club scrutineers letter.

Gotta ask, who are you insured with as I'm struggling to find a reasonable insurer for the xd. . Mines on club plates and it's definitely not an immaculate example. . Mind u I found it interesting that you don't need a working speedo in Victoria on a 25 plus yr old car to pass roadworthy.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by au2000

Gotta ask, who are you insured with as I'm struggling to find a reasonable insurer for the xd. . Mines on club plates and it's definitely not an immaculate example. . Mind u I found it interesting that you don't need a working speedo in Victoria on a 25 plus yr old car to pass roadworthy.

We use Shannons, but I have heard Lumley's is OK as well

[The Yeti]

Just put the wife's 38 on club plates in NSW all we needed was the club scrutanier to sign the historic vehicle declaration and identify the vehicle as the one I said it was, a road worthy inspection (my club has nominated that they want this anualy) and the appropriate RMS forms compleated, then down to RMS pay them about $150 (had yo pay extra this year as I out my personalised plates in storage and had to pay for the H plate all went a lot easier than I had anticipated, my biggest problem is the plates look baffle but I'm saving a grand a year so I can learn like them