January 2017 new car sales figures

unkey · 08-02-2017, 07:49 AM

I wonder if anyone has details ?
Russ maybe....

Rob 351 · 08-02-2017, 08:02 AM

1. mazda 3
2. Corolla
3. Hilux
4. Ranger
5. I30
6. Commodore
7. CX5
8. XTrail
9.Tucson
10. CX3

**Sorted** · 08-02-2017, 09:57 AM

The more I see FGX's the more I like them.

Ford 5912 up 7.4 per cent

Large — 2208:
Commodore (1960),
Toyota Aurion (95),
Ford Falcon (73)

Medium — 1997:
Toyota Camry (580),
Ford Mondeo (251),
Mazda 6 (250)

Entry Sports — 1349:
Ford Mustang (583),
Hyundai Veloster (162),
BMW 2 Series (148)

4×2 Utes — 2602:
Toyota HiLux (738),
Ford Ranger (401)
Mazda BT-50 (385)

4×4 Utes — 9636:
Ford Ranger (2221),
Toyota HiLux (1964)
Holden Colorado (1333)

**Giant Cranium** · 08-02-2017, 10:07 AM

Ford need to do a low ride auto ranger. Hilux is the only one that offers low autos. If they do they would overtake hilux comfortably

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Giant Cranium

Ford need to do a low ride auto ranger. Hilux is the only one that offers low autos. If they do they would overtake hilux comfortably

Ford aren't interested in low riders. The dollars are in the big ones.

All of Fords single cab utes are overpriced for a reason.

tranquilized · 10-02-2017, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Ford aren't interested in low riders. The dollars are in the big ones.

All of Fords single cab utes are overpriced for a reason.

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquilized

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

Depends how you look at it I guess. The Ranger is class leading and probably has the most R&D of them all.

They still all should be 10k cheaper if you ask me based on what you get.

**Fordman1** · 10-02-2017, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tranquilized

This has to be a golden era for all the players in the dual/single cab ute segment. The profit margins on these things must be astronomical!

The development that goes into them couldn't be a fraction of what goes into a normal passenger car. Old school tried and tested ladder frame, whack a masculine body on top, pull some tech of the corporate shelves - done! Driving dynamics and handling? Doesn't matter! The overall spec level is down as well, drum brakes one the back, spartan interiors. They're all built in Thailand, shipped over here with zero taxes, and they still cost close to $60k. The new V6 Amarok is pushing $80k!

Plus we're talking about the highest selling segment = mega mega huge crazy profits all round!

The driving dynamics and tuning of the suspension is really very good ( all points considering ) in the best rated of these 'utes'.

I've driven a new Ranger and it isn't a bad daily drive ! It's no Territory, but for many, it'll do just fine.

These body on frame vehicles have come a long way in 10 years.

Nikked · 08-02-2017, 10:07 AM

I'm actually glad the Mondeo is matching the Mazda 6...considering the Mazda markets it more then Ford markets the Mondeo...room for improvement there however.

Vesper Martini · 08-02-2017, 10:08 AM

Say what you like, Commodore still does really well, big changes coming me thinks

Blue_XR · 08-02-2017, 10:25 AM

I wonder if the Mondeo will pick up sales now that the Falcon has gone.

csv8 · 09-02-2017, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Blue_XR

I wonder if the Mondeo will pick up sales now that the Falcon has gone.

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Blue_XR · 09-02-2017, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

I thought the towing market moved to SUV's and Dual Cabs now?

Especially with families that have two cars, one can be the run around and the other the 'duties' vehicle.

suttoo · 09-02-2017, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Well we just sold a new Mondeo to a customer that has always bought Falcons. Doesn't tow. So maybe they will

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2017, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

You keep bringing this up, but who in their right mind went out to buy a Falcon to tow over 2 tonne anyway when they are so many more capable vehicles these days.

Mondeo with its 1600 capacity is plenty for the average 6x4 trailer they will likely ever tow

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

Yeh and that's the only reason why people bought Falcons....

Hows your Daewoo going?

csv8 · 10-02-2017, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Yeh and that's the only reason why people bought Falcons....

Hows your Daewoo going?

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

Vesper Martini · 10-02-2017, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

So you yourself have bought an SUV for towing, why have a crack at the Mondeo?

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

Don't you read any online reviews?? Its a Daewoo underneath, built in South Korea. Well known in the industry for all its faults.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Captiva

BENT_8 · 10-02-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

I don't have a Daewoo!!! its a GM/Holden MY 16 Captiva LTZ Diesel. Its done 12,800kms in 9 months (first service) 1,100kms towing a 1.8tonne caravan in summer heat..engine temp 93-103deg. Hasn't missed a beat...
Around town its getting 9.3l/100kms...towing its 11.9l/100kms. Empties the tank in 400kms towing,, reversing camera is great for hitching up!! Thanks for asking....

But that's just a Daewoo with Holden badges really, like a Holden with Chev badges, isn't it??

**FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0** · 10-02-2017, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Don't think so : If people are looking at a towing capacity : Mondeo can only tow 1600kgs.. Falcon is 2300kgs...but we can only hope ....

My Falcon does not even have a tow bar. The Tez on the other hand.....

mike_nofx · 10-02-2017, 09:04 AM

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

simon varley · 10-02-2017, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

because every ford car that is sold here gets dollars into Ford of Australia that funds the future development work that 1500 engineers in Geelong and Broadmeadows are doing

Nikked · 10-02-2017, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Oh, for the love of god....

The right choice was proven when people stopped buying Falcons...

NX74205 · 10-02-2017, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Because they did make the right choice. The Mondeo is a better car than the Falcon. Much quieter, much more refined, better built, more comfortable, bigger boot, more fuel efficient, more advanced features ...

And because it's a Ford. It's like footy, once you follow a team, you don't jump ship. I like all Fords, I don't care where they come from as long as it's a Ford. Ecosport aside, the current Ford offerings in each class are at or near best in class.

Here's to continued success for the blue oval

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Mondeo Sport Turbo V6 2017....http://www.caradvice.com.au/407653/2...-detroit-show/

That's a year old article. It's been discussed many times already. At the moment there's no plans to bring it here.

Smoke Pursuit · 10-02-2017, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by NX74205

Because they did make the right choice. The Mondeo is a better car than the Falcon. Much quieter, much more refined, better built, more comfortable, bigger boot, more fuel efficient, more advanced features ...

And because it's a Ford. It's like footy, once you follow a team, you don't jump ship. I like all Fords, I don't care where they come from as long as it's a Ford. Ecosport aside, the current Ford offerings in each class are at or near best in class.

Here's to continued success for the blue oval

That's a year old article. It's been discussed many times already. At the moment there's no plans to bring it here.

Really? Maybe better than a BF Fairmont but an FGx G6E still trumps a Mondeo.

prydey · 10-02-2017, 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Really? Maybe better than a BF Fairmont but an FGx G6E still trumps a Mondeo.

In what way?

bernbo · 10-02-2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

In what way?

The falcon has soul, and my fgx g6et was cheaper faster and more comfortable. The seating position is fine for my 6ft 110kg, I actually have skill in driving where I can park, and view my blindsots by turning my head as well as control the cruise control either by my foot or finger. I'm quite proud of it. Will mondeo spares, fixes, and forums be around for decades? No. The work mondeo I put a few kms on was as souless and lacking in character as a camry. Sure they are great appliances, do their designed function well, but just like a busted toaster you throw it out and get a new one. It doesn't feel part of the family and no kids go to high school graduations in first gen camrys.

UTXR8 · 11-02-2017, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_nofx

Ok, I get that this is a Ford forum but why do we pray for the success of Ford after the end of Australian manufacturing?

I know manufacturing will likely never return here, but why prove to Ford they made the right choice and that something like a Mondeo is a suitable replacement for a Falcon?

Post of the year!!!!...well said mate...as soon as Ford manufacturing ceased here, I made the decision to never buy a new Ford again...dont give a **** what model they offer, I wont buy one...

**russellw** · 11-02-2017, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UTXR8

Post of the year!!!!...well said mate...as soon as Ford manufacturing ceased here, I made the decision to never buy a new Ford again...dont give a **** what model they offer, I wont buy one...

An interesting view. So, you are happy to be prejudiced against Ford for not manufacturing here (along with everyone else) but your only other option is a fully imported vehicle anyway with no input of any kind from Australia.

Cheers
Russ