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17-01-2018, 03:34 PM | #1 | ||
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Seven-seat Explorer could fill gap in Ford’s line-up as Toyota Kluger rival
Ford logo16 Jan 2018 By TIM NICHOLSON in Detroit FORD executives have confirmed that the Explorer could return to Australian showrooms with the company exploring the viability of producing the next-generation large seven-seat SUV in right-hand drive. While the next-gen version of the big SUV is yet to be seen, it is expected to make its debut this year and go on sale Stateside in 2019. Speaking to Australian journalists at this week’s Detroit motor show, Ford Motor Company executive vice-president of product development and purchasing Hau Thai-Tang said there “absolutely” was an opportunity for the next-generation Explorer to be a global, rather than US-focused model. “We are selling it in other markets, we have it in Russia,” he said. “I think the Australian market would be a good market for it. In other markets it is just a little bit big in terms of width. But I know our team in Europe have been really keen to explore that beyond the Russian market. “There is nothing to announce yet. We are always looking at opportunities.” The executive that oversees the Australian market, Ford Motor Company group vice-president and president of Ford Asia Pacific Peter Fleet, said he was keen to expand the global reach of the Explorer. “I would love to have wider availability of Explorer,” he told Australian journalists at the Detroit show. “It is a power brand globally, Explorer. Even in markets we haven’t sold Explorer, people know what that is. Within our company it is such a strong product and I would love that opportunity.” Asked whether there was a chance the next-gen version would be built in right-hand drive, Mr Fleet said he would support it and highlighted the strategy that led to the Mustang sportscar becoming a global model in its current generation. “I have got nothing to announce today, but we would love to. Is there an opportunity for that vehicle in UK and Ireland? It was the big leap we made with Mustang, to say that there was a big enough opportunity with right-hand drive. Plus the … positive impact on the brand. “And at that time the company made the leap and said ‘ok yes we are going to go global on Mustang’. That is the kind of decision we would need to make with Explorer as well. “And I will be frank, we have not made that decision. Might we make that decision? Well yeah it is possible. If I get my business case lined up, I would love to be able to globalise the Explorer proposition.” If it gets the green light for right-hook production it would bolster Ford Australia’s SUV line-up and give it a seven-seat soft-roader to compete with the Mazda CX-9, Toyota Kluger, Kia Sorento and upcoming Holden Acadia. Ford currently sells the Everest seven-seater in Australia, but it is built on a ladder-frame, pick-up-based chassis unlike the softer models in the segment that are monocoque. Later this year Ford will introduce the Edge-based Endura large SUV to Australia, however it will be a five-seat offering powered exclusively by a diesel powertrain. The truck-based second- and third-generation Explorer was sold in Australia between 1996 and 2007 but it was never a strong seller. The fourth- and current fifth-generation models were not produced in right-hand drive and the Explorer has since moved to a monocoque chassis. https://www.goauto.com.au/future-mod...-16/68921.html |
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17-01-2018, 09:08 PM | #2 | ||
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The new Explorer looks so good. It's gotta be better than the Endura.
Ford has the Small SUVs covered with the Ecosport and Escape. Now cover the mid- large segmant with an Explorer as an onroad focus SUV and Everest for offroad focus SUV Like the Kluger vs the Prado |
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17-01-2018, 10:08 PM | #3 | ||
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A reliable source has shared that two hand built Next Gen RWD Explorers
emerged from the prototype plant in Detroit in the last week or so.... Scant details yet but maybe first showing of CD6. |
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18-01-2018, 12:04 AM | #4 | ||
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RWD Explorer? Are they following in the Territory's footsteps and offering RWD or AWD. The current gen Explorer is more than adequate as a Territory replacement. Much better drive than the thai Everest or the lame Endura
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Well done, you must have some good inside knowledge. Last edited by Fordman1; 18-01-2018 at 07:39 AM. |
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18-01-2018, 10:22 AM | #6 | ||
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18-01-2018, 01:52 PM | #7 | |||
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The Explorer is also much bigger than the Territory, it is in no way a replacement for Territory. It is in the next class size up. |
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18-01-2018, 09:45 AM | #8 | |||
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https://www.cnet.com/forums/discussi...9-ford-explor/
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18-01-2018, 11:57 AM | #9 | |||
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but probably still too early see any comment during this NAIAS season. Also, Ford wouldn't consider a RHD Explorer so late in D4 FWD/AWD Product cycle, any decision would be next generation vehicle. Last edited by jpd80; 18-01-2018 at 12:18 PM. |
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A RWD Explorer will have a very different appearance, for starters the current model has the engine fitted transverse. For RWD or RHD to be possible they would have needed to complete the new D6 platform I'm not sure that's been done yet, or even finalised
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18-01-2018, 09:39 AM | #12 | ||
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I don't know why people don't seem to get that the Edge / Endura is bigger than the Ecosport and Escape.
Its a Kluger sized competitor minus 7 seats!! The current Explorer is a much bigger vehicle, I sat in one on a recent trip to Vietnam. I absolutely loved it & would love to see them here, but you need to look at what its closest competitor for size and features and IMO that's the Range Rover.
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22-01-2018, 01:26 PM | #13 | |||
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What about someone who wants a 7 seater but won't be going off road much? They might not want an Everest. The Everest isn't very big for a 7 seater either. It's tall, but the body size isn't that big. A number of car companies now sell six different SUVs in Australia. If Ford want 'only' four SUVs I would have thought a 7 seat road based one would be one of them. The Explorer is a pretty similar size to a CX9 and Nissan Pathfinder. I live in a new housing estate with lots of young Families. 7 Seat SUVs are everywhere. Pathfinders, CX9's, Kluger's and Prado's are pretty popular. No one has an Everest from what I have seen. But obviously Ford knows best. We will see how the Endura sells. Maybe both the Eundra and Explorer would be nice side by side in the Ford lineup.... oneford. Wishful thinking though. |
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18-01-2018, 03:00 PM | #14 | ||
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I have also read that the Explorer is going RWD, but I have also read that the decision was reversed, so nobody on the outside really knows. Hopefully it is and has all the tech that the Expedition does, just smaller.
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18-01-2018, 06:00 PM | #15 | ||
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If Ford cant see the point in making the Mustang GT500 available to RHD markets, then I wouldn't be holding out on a return of the Explorer to Australia.
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18-01-2018, 06:08 PM | #16 | ||
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Add to that the new Edge ST
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18-01-2018, 06:17 PM | #17 | ||
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Its a joke.
Mustang GT350 and GT500 Edge ST Mondeo/Fusion Sport All performance cars. And apparently Ford are going to focus on performance cars for the Australian market.
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Agreed. One Ford is working a treat as we can see, as long as you’re in the US market of course. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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19-01-2018, 01:28 PM | #20 | |||
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But it is complete garbage that we have been the Mustangs no 1 export market but instead of rewarding us with new models that will increase sales for the company, they say too bad the Bullitt, GT500 etc are for us only and you can all get stuffed. One Ford, but only if it suits North America |
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19-01-2018, 05:49 PM | #23 | ||
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After having a solid reliable terri for 9yrs .I definitely would've considered that explorer as replacement...CX9 was the only suv I liked at the 50k pricepoint.
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People were moaned at the 85K price tag of the Everest Titanium, what do they think the top model Explorer would be worth?
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19-01-2018, 06:52 PM | #25 | ||
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Other than Mustang, 'One Ford' has provided us with little, plus we have lost local vehicles and production. I would still say we are in the negative... Hopefull 'Two Fords', which now seems to be LHD and RHD, will end soon and we see Explorer, F series and new Continental in particular. Assuming Ford abandon non Lincoln large sedans as they seem to be hinting....
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19-01-2018, 08:02 PM | #26 | ||
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Are there any shops that will do Explorer current gen from LHD to RHD if money is no object? How about other obstacles like crash certification, compliance etc etc
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23-01-2018, 07:50 AM | #27 | ||
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I've had a good look around these in the Philippines, haven't sat in one or been driven in one.
But, I'd be very interested in the Explorer, I love the looks and it's a 7-seater. Our current Terri has been a great car and I'll be looking to replace it in around 2 years time, so a RHD Explorer would be very welcome - can just picture it now, sitting next to its little Pony brother!
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One thing my sister with 4 children once said, a seven seater doesn't need to seat seven, it needs to seperate 4....
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