Oh dear!

[ronwest]

Apparently the pic has been doing the rounds but I had it brought to my attention only today.

Not far from where I live... the cop is in position between a set of traffic lights and a decent curve in the road. Not sure there has ever been an accident there but it is on a downhill slope so every chance of getting a few desperados doing 5kph over the limit.

How embarrassing.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/cop-reprim...011239799.html

[Citroënbender]

About impressive as the Sydney parkies (Willoughby Council) who wore khaki to blend in with the streetscape.

[Trevor 57]

I know exactly how to beat those underhanded ploys by Police, wanna know how?






























































don't ****ing speed - simple really

[cheap]

Oh yeah great forthcoming response ‘don’t speed’ and now let me retort, is the aim to either intimidate people or raise revenue or both? Because it certainly isn’t managing road behaviors/safety - if that section of road was so dangerous wouldn’t they place a fixed camera or similar?

Next time you’re doing something perceived as being naughty in your bedroom and the cops park outside taking photos of you - you’ll be fine with that too?

[Citroënbender]

I’m sure our man is just stirring.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by cheap

Because it certainly isn’t managing road behaviors/safety

yes it is, I rarely get overtaken by people 'really' speeding these days, particularly on the Hume Freeway, the only people who slip past are NSW registered cars who think they can get away with 10% over in Victoria

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

yes it is, I rarely get overtaken by people 'really' speeding these days, particularly on the Hume Freeway, the only people who slip past are NSW registered cars who think they can get away with 10% over in Victoria

I find its usually the ACT registered cars doing more than that.

[Falcon SXR8]

Way worse things happening around that they should be concentrating on than some poor bloke doing 3 ks over because his car picked up speed on a downhill and he was watching the road instead of his speedo.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Falcon SXR8

Way worse things happening around that they should be concentrating on than some poor bloke doing 3 ks over because his car picked up speed on a downhill and he was watching the road instead of his speedo.

there are very few cars with speedo's EXACTLY correct, most are 5% lower than actual speed, so with that in mind those people who get caught 3k's over are generally 8k's over (minimum) by their speedo (in a 100k zone), so don't plead the old 'oh whoa is me" stuff

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

there are very few cars with speedo's EXACTLY correct, most are 5% lower than actual speed, so with that in mind those people who get caught 3k's over are generally 8k's over (minimum) by their speedo (in a 100k zone), so don't plead the old 'oh whoa is me" stuff

Correct and in Queensland, police with hand held radars usually target people clearly well over the speed limit, as in 8,9,10 kph not just 3 or 4 kph like NSW.

Also, Police make a point of catching people while standing in plain site, so this is not usual for them so probably got told to stop it.

[simon varley]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

there are very few cars with speedo's EXACTLY correct, most are 5% lower than actual speed, so with that in mind those people who get caught 3k's over are generally 8k's over (minimum) by their speedo (in a 100k zone), so don't plead the old 'oh whoa is me" stuff

just because someone is 8 over, or 10 over, or 20 over doesn't automatically make them dangerous. Breaking the law yes, but not necessarily dangerous especially on a divided highway

so it's not about road safety. it's about revenue raising.

[lra]

He should have been reported to police as a suspicious person hiding with a weapon in a public place.
The sight of the Tactical Response Group arresting a traffic cop as a potential terrorist would have been gold.

As for "don't ****ing speed - simple really" , not everyone is a good fairy 100% of the time. It is very easy to innocently exceed the limit, especially if it is a 'roadworks 40kmh' zone, no workers, no equipment, no signs of actual roadwork, and you are left wondering where the end of this supposedly high activity area is.

[Peter B - CV8]

In my experience it is a pretty easy task to catch most speeding motorists - without resorting to that level of sneakiness.

[Itsme]

Just another troglodyte zealous cop revenue raising.

[ford71V8]

Dangerous place to sit and hide if you ask me.
With all the out of control cars hooning past you'd think he'd be a bit more cautious than that. He might be a cop but he's still an idiot, probably thinking the pole will save him if things go bad.

[Trevor 57]

I get the revenue raising thing - but how about everyone stop speeding and just send a cheque off to the Government yearly for about $2000, save the drama then

I can't believe people are just so happy to fill the Governments pockets



and for the record my last fine was December 28 1999 in Wodonga, and I travel a lot, I have been to many places all over Australia, both privately and with work

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I get the revenue raising thing - but how about everyone stop speeding and just send a cheque off to the Government yearly for about $2000, save the drama then

I can't believe people are just so happy to fill the Governments pockets

and for the record my last fine was December 28 1999 in Wodonga, and I travel a lot, I have been to many places all over Australia, both privately and with work

Quite agree with your comments but then again have you ever heard of the term entrapment.
I would have thought seeing police presence on our roads serves better for road safety than a sneaky cop engaging in fine revenue.


Cheers.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Officemanager

Quite agree with your comments but then again have you ever heard of the term entrapment.
I would have thought seeing police presence on our roads serves better for road safety than a sneaky cop engaging in fine revenue.


Cheers.

I think you will find that 'entrapment' doesn't exist in Australian law - it is a phallacy

[Itsme]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I think you will find that 'entrapment' doesn't exist in Australian law - it is a phallacy

Only expressed his actions as entrapment, did not say it was law here.

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I get the revenue raising thing - but how about everyone stop speeding

Most people speed, whether knowingly or not. A significant proportion of people drift over the speed limit on roads where the posted limit is below the 85th percentile.

If the law is punishing normal behaviour, shouldn't the law be changed? I accept that there is a safety argument here, but 1-10kph over is not inherently unsafe (as a NSW HWP was quoted as saying on a car forum, '95% of the speeding drivers I pull over are not doing anything unsafe'), and depending on the road, even 10-20kph may not be.

[Citroënbender]

I have far greater issue with dangerous driving - particularly in the form of tailgating and unsafe overtaking. I’d prefer to see these behaviours policed, both publicly and covertly.

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by Citroënbender

I have far greater issue with dangerous driving - particularly in the form of tailgating and unsafe overtaking. I’d prefer to see these behaviours policed, both publicly and covertly.

I am with you on this, but after spending 13 years as a volunteer emergency service responder to road accidents, I have very little tolerance for speeders. I am not terrible fussed about tailgaters, but I am an ex-truckie

My 'hate' list (in priority):
1. drink drivers
2. dangerous drivers
3. speeding drivers

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I am not terrible fussed about tailgaters

so your position is based on bias rather than logic. good to know.

[FTe342]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I am with you on this, but after spending 13 years as a volunteer emergency service responder to road accidents, I have very little tolerance for speeders. I am not terrible fussed about tailgaters, but I am an ex-truckie

My 'hate' list (in priority):
1. drink drivers
2. dangerous drivers
3. speeding drivers

Well there will be less of your # 1 hate in NSW commencing in a week or so.

All drivers found to be over the 0.05 limit have their license cancelled for 3 mths immediately plus an on the spot fine

How long before the other states follow suit

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by b0son

(as a NSW HWP was quoted as saying on a car forum, '95% of the speeding drivers I pull over are not doing anything unsafe'), and depending on the road, even 10-20kph may not be.

so he turns a blind eye to speeding around schools at school times? So he turns a blind eye to speeders through accident zones, so he turns a blind eye to speeders in CBD's - I think not!!!!

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

so he turns a blind eye to speeding around schools at school times?

why not? if he's going to turn a blind eye to the multitude of other offences committed in school zones (I see far worse than going 10kph over on a daily basis, usually by drivers that are near stationary, eg. drivers on phones, drivers failing to give way, drivers obstructing traffic, etc).

[Trevor 57]

Originally Posted by b0son

why not? if he's going to turn a blind eye to the multitude of other offences committed in school zones (I see far worse than going 10kph over on a daily basis, usually by drivers that are near stationary, eg. drivers on phones, drivers failing to give way, drivers obstructing traffic, etc).

oh so bowling over school kids is OK? Got kids have ya?

[burnz]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I get the revenue raising thing - but how about everyone stop speeding and just send a cheque off to the Government yearly for about $2000, save the drama then

I can't believe people are just so happy to fill the Governments pockets



and for the record my last fine was December 28 1999 in Wodonga, and I travel a lot, I have been to many places all over Australia, both privately and with work

and then what??
they lower the speed limit more, increase fuel taxes, land tax, rego??
at what point do we say F.U.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by Big Trev

I

and for the record my last fine was December 28 1999 in Wodonga, and I travel a lot, I have been to many places all over Australia, both privately and with work

There's perception by some that anyone who isn't happy with how the police force police certain road rules are serial offends who are just bitter about their fines.
Well I have never had a speeding fine in my life and still think the tactics used by certain police has nothing to do with road safety and everything to do with revenue. I also travel a lot for work. Probably do 50,000kms a year.


You also hear the stories of people who are certain they were not speeding but still got a fine. Sure they would be the minority of speeding fines, but the whole don't speed and you won't get caught isn't 100% true either.
There are members on this forum who have told their stories of receiving fines while doing nothing wrong.

I still think here in NSW we have it reasonably good when it comes to traffic enforcement. At least here they try to pretend they care about safe driving rather than writing fines. Signposted warnings of all speed cameras is a good example.

[Citroënbender]

I mostly agree with you, having never received a speeding fine either. My gripes revolve around enforcement behaviour that unnecessarily fosters an “us vs them” mindset, and cherry-picking offences.

Years ago I remember a Vic country cop saying online that he thought there should be a general offence administered discretionarily of “being a d***”. While this could go both ways you could sense his frustration at having to ignore dangerous or highly irresponsible actions because the onus of gathering sufficient proof made it impractical for the time and resources he had...