New Ford V8 Diesel

HSE2 · 08-04-2006, 02:30 PM

The launch of a new premium V8 diesel engine at Ford's Dagenham Diesel Centre has further strengthened the site's role as the company's global centre for diesel engineering and manufacturing.

Dagenham Diesel Centre specialists have exclusively engineered and produced this new top of the range engine for Ford Motor Company. It is a state-of-the-art twin-turbo 3.6-litre V8 power unit and the first came off the line today. Vehicle applications for the new engine will be announced later this year together with further technical details.

More than £12.2 million has been invested in the development and manufacture of the V8, bringing the total spent at Dagenham to £644.2 million since it became Ford's diesel centre of excellence.

Phil Lake, Ford's chief diesel engineer, said: "This new V8 engine underlines Ford Motor Company's commitment to engineering and manufacturing in the UK. It is a credit to Dagenham where employees have embraced their role as diesel specialists – engineering and producing advanced quality engines."

The V8 will be built on the same production line which has turned out 110,000 examples of Dagenham Diesel Centre's highly acclaimed 2.7-litre V6 engines for Jaguar, Land Rover and PSA Peugeot Citroën. Both V6 and V8 engine blocks are loaded onto cradles prior to assembly, which enable operators and the line itself to switch between the different units seamlessly.

Dagenham Diesel Centre is one of the most advanced manufacturing sites in the country. It features an ultra modern assembly hall where air is filtered to minimise dust particles that could interfere with the quality of the high tech diesel engines. A clean production environment is required for the high pressure common rail fuel and turbo charging systems featured on the latest advanced diesel engines.

The new V8 boasts a power output of over 270PS and develops up to 640Nm of torque. Dagenham Diesel Centre is gearing up to production volumes of up to 25,000 units a year. The cylinder heads for the V8 will be machined in Dagenham's adjacent original engine plant, where V6 machining already takes place. Both engines are made from lightweight compacted graphite iron, offering strength, durability and quietness.

Ford's Dagenham Diesel Centre was opened by the Prime Minister in 2003 and a total of 2,350 engineers and production operators are employed at Dagenham where 700,000 engines will be produced this year. Further new business for Dagenham assembling 1.4 and 1.6 diesel engines will take the site beyond a million units annual output from early next year.

Dagenham is the source for half of Ford Motor Company's diesel engine requirements globally. Around one in four engines in Ford Motor Company vehicles worldwide were built in Britain – assembled either at Dagenham or Bridgend engine plant, in Wales.

Source: Ford

csv8 · 08-04-2006, 02:43 PM

For the Territory ?

HSE2 · 08-04-2006, 02:49 PM

Maybe in the future.

I know for a fact that engine is going into the MY07 Rangie and the MY 07 Range Rover Sport. Discovery has to wait but it is going into that as well.

The discovery is a bit dearer then the Territory but if Ford Aus wants a diesel I guess this new engine will be on the consideration list.

csv8 · 08-04-2006, 03:27 PM

If a diesel goes into Territory it will be the V6 from Landrover.

HSE2 · 08-04-2006, 03:31 PM

Why do you say that?

Dr Smith · 08-04-2006, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HSE2

Why do you say that?

Because if you listen closely to a certain proto Terry it has Disco3 tDi power with A6 mated to it...... but I didn't tell you that.

09-04-2006, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Because if you listen closely to a certain proto Terry it has Disco3 tDi power with A6 mated to it...... but I didn't tell you that.

I think you are very close to the mark.

csv8 · 08-04-2006, 03:35 PM

Because it has been rumoured for awhile that is what diesel would go into Territory.,if a diesel EVER goes into Terri.
Ford has said " that a V8 doesn't fit into Terri's engine bay. But CAPA proved them wrong!! But you never know !!!

Matty4 · 08-04-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Because it has been rumoured for awhile that is what diesel would go into Territory.,if a diesel EVER goes into Terri.
Ford has said " that a V8 doesn't fit into Terri's engine bay. But CAPA proved them wrong!! But you never know !!!

The reason a V8 doesn't fit into a Territory is because of the AWD running gear. The CAPA Terri is RWD only, hence why a V8 will fit.

Dr Smith · 08-04-2006, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty4

The reason a V8 doesn't fit into a Territory is because of the AWD running gear. The CAPA Terri is RWD only, hence why a V8 will fit.

True, from day one the V8 was never programmed into the Terry's development and would need drive going through the base of the Barra220/Boss260 to make it work...which would cost too much and so never carried out.

McobraR · 08-04-2006, 07:36 PM

A V8 diesel will drink more than the V6 version, and with the price of fuel nowadays, a V8 doesn't really sound very tempting to consumers. The 2.7 V6 unit is already a very good engine, somethin like 140kw and 440nm isn't it? thats more than enough.
As for the V8 not fitting in the engine bay, its just the triton/boss engines that can't fit. who says this new 3.6 diesel cant?
On a side note, maybe the successor to the territory will have a slightly bigger engine bay to accomodate a V8 since it'l most likely gain weight, THEN we might see a triton/boss or 3.6TT diesel V8s under it

, but of course, thats just wishful thinking

chevypower · 08-04-2006, 09:44 PM

the 2.7TDV6 is designed to increase to 3.0 at a future date, also comes in twin turbo. So a 4L Twin Turbo TDV8 is also on the drawing board. This would suit caravan pullers more, i think. Would also be more economical than the 4L petrol

Bossxr8 · 09-04-2006, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by csv8

Because it has been rumoured for awhile that is what diesel would go into Territory.,if a diesel EVER goes into Terri.
Ford has said " that a V8 doesn't fit into Terri's engine bay. But CAPA proved them wrong!! But you never know !!!

CAPA didn't prove anyone wrong, they used a full XR8 front end setup under the Territory body. Its not possible retaining the full Territory suspension setup as the front mounted steering rack gets in the way of the V8's block.

The new V8 diesel is just the current Jag/Disco V6 with 2 extra cylinders, and 200kw and 580nm. Would make a great addition to the Territory.

HSE2 · 08-04-2006, 04:14 PM

Ah yes I woudln't expect this new engine in a Ford Aus product before the all new versions come along in 2007- 08.

**ebxr8240** · 09-04-2006, 08:35 AM

A bigger diesel doesn't necessary mean more fuel consumption.
Depends on driver in most cases...

outback_ute · 09-04-2006, 10:30 AM

I knew it had to come sooner or later. Interesting times ahead to be sure.

The Stylist · 09-04-2006, 11:23 AM

2007 Mondeo from what I've heard - though I have my doubts, if it does happen it will be a radical departure from the current engine line-up.

XplosiveR6 · 09-04-2006, 12:19 PM

now this is what i dont understand, all there jurno's are stating how much trouble ford are in and that they are in so much dept, they just wont admit it bla bla bla. but yet they can fund hundreds of millions of dollars into these projects and fund millions into keeping jaguar afloat. sometime i think these jurnos think they know more about a company then the own company does.