Chinese car for uinder 10 grand

charles_wif_xf · 11-07-2006, 10:12 PM

Hey guys, does anyone have any info on some Chinese car they are planning on importing into Australia with a sub 10K sticker price? There was a bit on the news but I didn't catch it.

buickman · 11-07-2006, 10:17 PM

They look a bit like the current Toyota Corolla but cheap & nasty. They have not met ADR standeds as yet could be 3 years away before the POS hit our shores to buggar up the used car prices. I won't buy one no matter how cheap they are

krt10 · 11-07-2006, 10:57 PM

there so cheap because they use crappy parts and their workers get paid like 10cents an hour or somthing.

SpoolMan · 13-07-2006, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by krt10

there so cheap because they use crappy parts and their workers get paid like 10cents an hour or somthing.

and a bowl of rice.

Keepleft · 15-07-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by buickman

They look a bit like the current Toyota Corolla but cheap & nasty. They have not met ADR standeds as yet could be 3 years away before the POS hit our shores to buggar up the used car prices. I won't buy one no matter how cheap they are

They will not be sold unless they meet ADR.

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Spoolman wrote: "and a bowl of rice".

Yes, yes yes - its all in that bowel of rice.

new2ford · 17-07-2006, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Keepleft

They will not be sold unless they meet ADR.

The question that's beggared by this, as we've learnt with the Daewoo Barina, is that compliance with ADR doesn't necessarily mean it's safe. Nothing should come into this country that hasn't achieved at least 3 stars in an NCAP - so why does it?

And then there's primary safety - the ability to avoid getting into a situation in the first place. Nobody's addressed this except for some wishy washy lists of cars with ESC. Some vehicles are inherently unsafe - both primary and secondary - and they're not even from China but 'respectable' countries like Japan and the US. The Chinese are clever - they'll come good pretty quickly. We won't be laughing at their cars in 10 years.

EF GHIA · 13-07-2006, 01:03 AM

I only herd about these cheep cars off the grape vine. But lets face it, unless your in the market for a car 2lt or under squasch box is it really going to affect the mid to family size car market

OzJavelin · 13-07-2006, 07:28 AM

When they do show up at least we'll have a consistent wooden-spooner for the NCAP (?) crash testing results ..

ltd · 13-07-2006, 07:44 AM

Didn't they already make a copy of the land cruiser called the Landwind?
It did so poorly in the crash test that you were more likely to be injured in an accident inside it than being hit by a car on the street. I believe they used normal glass, not laminate, and the whole exterior/interior folded quicker than the french army.

Of course though, some renegade dead****s will buy it and push our insurance premiums up when they are severely injured in an accident.

aquahead2001 · 13-07-2006, 07:59 AM

Tha Landwind is/was based on the Isuzu Frontera not the Land Cruiser. It failed the European NCAP tests convincinly. (At least the company has something to crow about!)

mash85 · 13-07-2006, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ltd

Didn't they already make a copy of the land cruiser called the Landwind?
It did so poorly in the crash test that you were more likely to be injured in an accident inside it than being hit by a car on the street. I believe they used normal glass, not laminate, and the whole exterior/interior folded quicker than the french army.

Of course though, some renegade dead****s will buy it and push our insurance premiums up when they are severely injured in an accident.

wholey **** they used normal glass and not laminate? i didnt think they were even allowed to to do that anymore. thats disgraceful. i really hope they arent allowed on the market like that

mash85 · 13-07-2006, 08:37 AM

even crappy, there will be a ****load of people that buy these. under 10K is pretty amazing for a new car. ull get people buying them that couldnt normally afford a new car, others for use as a second car. just like the old excel etc, but with fuel prices out of control, it'll only help this car more.

MITCHAY · 13-07-2006, 09:03 AM

Even the most stupid person has got to realize that a new car under 10k isn't worth their life. Sure I paid 4k for my second hand car, but I think it was something like 27k when new.

The Yeti · 13-07-2006, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by mash85

even crappy, there will be a ****load of people that buy these. under 10K is pretty amazing for a new car. ull get people buying them that couldnt normally afford a new car, others for use as a second car. just like the old excel etc, but with fuel prices out of control, it'll only help this car more.

This is exactly what stufffed the used car market last time, people will by them as opposed to bying a 2ndd hand corolla or simular, then in 5 yrs when the warranty expires and the thing is a pos worth nothing they will go back trade in on a new one and it starts all over again.

charles_wif_xf · 13-07-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by The Yeti

This is exactly what stufffed the used car market last time, people will by them as opposed to bying a 2ndd hand corolla or simular, then in 5 yrs when the warranty expires and the thing is a pos worth nothing they will go back trade in on a new one and it starts all over again.

You gotta love the Yanks for setting the precedent.

Interceptor · 13-07-2006, 09:40 AM

http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/

ouch!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...-outside-view/

AnthonyQLD · 13-07-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/

ouch!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...-outside-view/

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RavenLS1 · 13-07-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/

ouch!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...-outside-view/

OMFG!

BPXR6T · 15-07-2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/

ouch!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...-outside-view/

That's at only 64kph. Not much more than we do cruisin round the burbs. I think I'll go back to euro cars.

AUIII XR8 MAN · 17-07-2006, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Interceptor

http://landwind.bootnetworks.com/

ouch!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/
http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...-outside-view/

Those poor crash test dumbes. But that is scary.

13-07-2006, 09:45 AM

And we though the Barina/Kalos was bad enough

charles_wif_xf · 13-07-2006, 10:44 AM

I just wanted to hear some more info. I have ZERO intention of buying such a POS, nor should anyone else with an ounce of common sense.

NEG · 13-07-2006, 10:59 AM

Owch!
That F150 didnt look to good either.

16wantsI6 · 15-07-2006, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by NEG

Owch!
That F150 didnt look to good either.

you get that when you throw 2-3 tonnes at a wall.
now do a head on with the F250 and the VW and we'll see which car would be "safer"

im pretty sure they've already done a test on this actually.

tufLTD · 13-07-2006, 10:51 AM

Considering some people bought Lada's, Daewoo's, Excel's, etc, I'm sure these vehicles will sell over here. There's always a market for cheap crap, just look at the dollar shops all over the place. Unfortunately, we live in a disposable society where cheapness is more important than the quality to a lot of consumers.

marcosambrose · 13-07-2006, 11:25 AM

that volkswagen didnt even have any intrusive damage to the interior of the car...

thats why european cars are what they are!

Falcon Freak · 15-07-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by marcosambrose

that volkswagen didnt even have any intrusive damage to the interior of the car...

thats why european cars are what they are!

Germans still make the best cars. Deutschland uber alles!

FF

new2ford · 15-07-2006, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Freak

Germans still make the best cars. Deutschland uber alles!

FF

Check this out FF: http://www.topgear.com/content/featu...ries/01/3.html

Top Gear says: "German manufacturers, once the epitome of solid reliability, remain on the slide, although last year's most dismal duffer, the moribund Mercedes M-Class, is displaced by no fewer than four fragile French marques."

The best cars are actually mostly Japanese: Lexus, Honda, Subaru. The best European manufacturers are actually Czech, not German (VW's top liners come as Skodas from Mlada Boleslav, and the Toureg and parts of the Porsche Cayenne also come from Czech Republic). Manufacturers are moving to the Czech Republic because they get the quality there they can't get anywhere else in Europe (Toyota-Peugeot Citroen and now Hyundai).

Skoda is now pretty much regarded as second only to Lexus in quality: http://www.carpages.co.uk/skoda/skod...y-04-06-06.asp

You need to catch up with the quiet revolution thats been happening there in the last decade as the Czechs return to their prewar quality (interrupted for 50 years by the Germans and communism). Back to the thread, Skoda is also setting up in China - there is a difference between overseas brands manufactured in China and Chinese local brands. The main thing the foreigners have to watch out for is the Chinese propensity for theft of designs (without the accompanying safety and quality).

You can't get Skodas here unfortunately though you can in NZ. The only local Czech made car is the Touareg.

mash · 15-07-2006, 01:39 PM

Watching a tv show the other day, It was a doco on the chinese that have bought up all the MG tooling along with the name, some 4000 containers of it and are assembling a new factory with it as we speak(type). They now have a global name thats recognised. Funny that 20 years ago Korean cars would have been laughed at and 45 years ago the japs. Things are a changen!

Bossxr8 · 15-07-2006, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mash

Watching a tv show the other day, It was a doco on the chinese that have bought up all the MG tooling along with the name, some 4000 containers of it and are assembling a new factory with it as we speak(type). They now have a global name thats recognised. Funny that 20 years ago Korean cars would have been laughed at and 45 years ago the japs. Things are a changen!

Read in the Herald Sun yesterday that the factory is going to be in the US.