original phase 5!

drcook · 30-10-2006, 04:56 PM

http://www.fordmusclecars.com.au/vie...asp?itemID=144

wow! an original PHASE 5 !, be quick. this sale isnt going to last long. i wonder if i offer him 750K i can get it?.....LOL.

flappist · 30-10-2006, 05:16 PM

On the other hand there are some who make fools of themselves when due to their ignorance of Ford history are unaware that there were many boutique tuning houses in the '80s and the Phase 5 was made by one of them called Phase Autos, I think.

Maybe a bit of research before posting will prevent that in the future.....

JG66ME · 30-10-2006, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

On the other hand there are some who make fools of themselves when due to their ignorance of Ford history are unaware that there were many boutique tuning houses in the '80s and the Phase 5 was made by one of them called Phase Autos, I think.

Maybe a bit of research before posting will prevent that in the future.....

Correct. That car in the add though dosnt look like a Phase 5 to me though. It wasnt a Ford product, but I remeber a white one in the foyer of Hoytes Cinema, George St Sydney for the promotion of the James Bond film Moonraker. Had a alloy grill and a wild body kit.

Steve

MO · 30-10-2006, 10:02 PM

If its a phase model and not made by Ford its worth.......jack s.

GXL078 · 07-11-2006, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MO

If its a phase model and not made by Ford its worth.......jack s.

C'mon, it has to be worth more than a standard XD, which is worth slightly more than nothing. I think that colour is shithouse green. There is NO WAY they were injected.

WILDTRAKPX2 · 30-10-2006, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JG66ME

Correct. That car in the add though dosnt look like a Phase 5 to me though. It wasnt a Ford product, but I remeber a white one in the foyer of Hoytes Cinema, George St Sydney for the promotion of the James Bond film Moonraker. Had a alloy grill and a wild body kit.

Steve

Found this info:

http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts.../xdfalcon.html

Moonraker is mentioned, but they are calling the phase5 a GTHO!!:

JG66ME · 31-10-2006, 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Shockwave XR8

Found this info:

http://www.geocities.com/falconfacts.../xdfalcon.html

Moonraker is mentioned, but they are calling the phase5 a GTHO!!:

Appears I am confusing the P5 with the Moonraker. I remember both now. As the other guy said, 80s was wowserville. If you wanted a performance Ford you had to dive an older car. I did like the XD ESP 5.8 but as muscle car it had had its nuts chopped off.

Steve

fastleno · 05-11-2006, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by flappist

On the other hand there are some who make fools of themselves when due to their ignorance of Ford history are unaware that there were many boutique tuning houses in the '80s and the Phase 5 was made by one of them called Phase Autos, I think.

Maybe a bit of research before posting will prevent that in the future.....

i think you are right they also relesed a phase 7 ea falcon, i know a guy that has one at first i thought it was a mock up but it does have phase 7 on the id plates

Auslandau · 05-11-2006, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by fastleno

i think you are right they also relesed a phase 7 ea falcon, i know a guy that has one at first i thought it was a mock up but it does have phase 7 on the id plates

Havnt heard of this one but dont think the phase 7 could be on the ID plates as these cars, phase 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 were never sanctioned by Ford so ID cannot be tampered with.

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fastleno · 07-11-2006, 12:51 AM

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i think you are right they also relesed a phase 7 ea falcon, i know a guy that has one at first i thought it was a mock up but it does have phase 7 on the id plates

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Originally Posted by auslandau

Havnt heard of this one but dont think the phase 7 could be on the ID plates as these cars, phase 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 or 10 were never sanctioned by Ford so ID cannot be tampered with.

this is what i was infomed, phase autos in vic made them but the original company closed down, they fitted a custom bodykit, low suspension alloy 16 inch ally rims, recaro front seats, momo interior bits and pieces, motor wise there stock apart from full exhaust from motor to the rear, and airbox mods. and had the mpfi.they were all manual 5 speed.
but anyway 4 some reason they couldnt get them passed as prototypes due to a lack of funding so phase sold them as ea's but they have build plates to say they were a phase 7. i will see if i can get a few pics of it and the body plates.

sfr rob · 30-10-2006, 05:22 PM

OWNED!
HAHAHAHA
I didnt know that was a fact... interesting stuff.

WILDTRAKPX2 · 30-10-2006, 05:36 PM

If it's genuine, it is in fairly good nick by the looks of it. Bugger all were made and they covered XD and XE models. 225kw.

PS. Flappist is correct in that Phase Autos built them. Nothing to do with what we all know as Phase 1,2,3 and 4, but a prototype in the similar vein as DJR etc I suppose.

WILDTRAKPX2 · 30-10-2006, 05:43 PM

double post...

BZINGA · 30-10-2006, 07:51 PM

Mate of mine had a phase 5 with all the genuine papers and stuff, very tuff car. I think they were made and sold to the public because of Group C racing back then, they had to sell them to the public to be raced? Can someone confirm that as true or did i hear wrong.

Auslandau · 30-10-2006, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TRIK67

Mate of mine had a phase 5 with all the genuine papers and stuff, very tuff car. I think they were made and sold to the public because of Group C racing back then, they had to sell them to the public to be raced? Can someone confirm that as true or did i hear wrong.

Phase 5 had nothing to do with Ford or any relation close too. Not even like a Tickford set up. Phase 5 was a name only, as mentioned earlier, by Phase Autos that put on extra bits and pieces. Bit like Herrod built cars or C2R putting body kits on AU's and calling them, well, C2R's I suppose. Genuine papers and so forth would only be written out by the company that produced it, and not by Ford, and at this stage are pretty much worthless as far as collectability goes. An ESP should be worth 5 times more. As far as I know the wording Phase....whatever has never been registered.

BUT in saying that it doesnt look too bad...for the money if all in good nic......except the colour but some love green.

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XR Martin · 30-10-2006, 05:31 PM

Are XB GTs really worth $60k? (looking at other ads on that site)

**Falcon Coupe** · 30-10-2006, 07:52 PM

I refuse to acknowledge anything after phase 4.

BZINGA · 30-10-2006, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I refuse to acknowledge anything after phase 4.

LOL

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WILDTRAKPX2 · 30-10-2006, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I refuse to acknowledge anything after phase 4.

LOL, I agree. The XD holds special to me because my father always had Holden's and when I was about 12 he bought the new XD in Monza Red. Been a Ford man ever since. I think they got away with the "phase 5" name only due to the fact the company that produced them was Phase Auto. I'm too young to remember, but I bet the purists had a bit to say back then.

R0BD0G · 30-10-2006, 08:11 PM

well geez......nice car....but since it wasn't made in a ford factory like the XW, XY, XA.....it looks like an xd with a heap of crap stuck on it.....homologated options is something i think of when i see that

BlueRaven · 30-10-2006, 08:04 PM

Yeah, nothing too out of the ordinary with this one. Its not claiming to be a Phase 5 GTHO, its just what they were called.

This is the 2nd thread lately where the joke is on the thread starter.

StookEB · 30-10-2006, 08:27 PM

It looks to over the top IMO.

jimmy_c · 30-10-2006, 08:40 PM

Is that hothouse green (GMH) its painted in ?

GOLDIE · 31-10-2006, 07:01 AM

As has been mentioned they were biult by phase auto's but the one for sale does not look right.

Wrong colour for a start,also they came with a slightly worked over 351 with the normal thremoquad carby and air cleaner.

Also they had fins on the front grauds.

Ian

TS50 · 31-10-2006, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLDIE

As has been mentioned they were biult by phase auto's but the one for sale does not look right.

Wrong colour for a start,also they came with a slightly worked over 351 with the normal thremoquad carby and air cleaner.

Also they had fins on the front grauds.

Ian

I agree, it doesnt look like the same body kits the Phase 5 had when they came out, missing the top of guard fins, but even apart from that, just dosnt look 100% right

BENT_8 · 31-10-2006, 02:20 PM

As far as i am concerned, The title "phase" was given, to the consecutive evolutions of the GT Falcon.

How could a tarted up XD be considered as an evolution of the XA.

The only problem here that i can see is misleading a wannabe into buying something that they no idea about.

BlewThunder · 07-11-2006, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GOLDIE

Wrong colour for a start

Better alert the paint shops that people aren't allowed to respray their car a different colour.

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ea_boss_05 · 31-10-2006, 08:00 AM

The road test in Motor August 1981 states that the car only had 160kw, so was pretty much stock with a body kit and suspension upgrade. Packages started at about $2000 up to $9000 so I guess there were engine mods if you wanted them.

400m in 15.7

XRQTR · 31-10-2006, 08:37 AM

It was the 80's and the wowsers were in full force, from what i remember they were trying to do something like the HDT's in that the actual manufacturer couldn't be seen to be building this sort of thing but an aftermarket could.

They were available through a dealer network just as the HDT product, the paperwork was kept seperate to the FOMOCO paperwork to not be an 'official' Ford product but was pretty well sanctioned by Ford. Also yes from what I recall Phase Auto did the homologation work for the race cars, as well as the Moffat EB and I think some EF/EL stuff as well.

So as for price, and I know alot of guys wouldn't want to hear this, but they will become more colectible, although this one is obviously not genuine in that the color has been changed. A wise collector with the room to store it might think seriously about putting one of these in his shed, they are still cheap at the moment but will out do the ESP before long if only because of there low build numbers.

We all know the way it goes, never knew what you had until the right buyer came along that appreciated it, the XA and XB GTs were in the same boat not so long ago, same with the XT. As something becomes rarer the next closest thing becomes the way to move, need i mention how abundant and cheap coupes were in the 80's they had so little value to most that original GT coupes were being modified to some extreme lengths.

smally289 · 31-10-2006, 09:55 AM

God I hate it when people mention Phase5's. Yes, they were made by Phase Auto's. Do they deserve the 'Phase' name for any other reason? NO.

Phase 1, 2, 3 and 4 were all derivatives of Falcon GT's. Was there an XD GT? NO.
End of story.