New Hoons Law

trick_xd · 08-04-2005, 05:20 PM

Well its stuffed now
I might as well move out of victoria
the " Bracks " Gov now have a new law that if you get court doing a " burnout " or " Hooning " then first time your car is taken off you for 48hrs next time your car could be taken and sold ..

so picture this
old granmar in her EL and me in my EL Both sitting at the lights ..
lights turn green. .
I take off first and faster then her.. there is a cop on the side road watching..
So what happens then.. ??
He can pull me over for " Hooning " and take my car ?

Where i live it was a trial and the cops were happy with it as it got a few ppl and there cars off the road but it could not be inforced . well now it can .. It has been a longggg time since the cops have even looked at my cars (even with my black windows ) But this new law could be bad for a fair few of us if the police use this new law in the wrong meaning .

What do you Guys/Girls Think ??

08-04-2005, 05:23 PM

It should be limited to organized street racing and long burnouts in built up areas (not your wheels chirping from the white line at the lights).

dogbreath_48 · 08-04-2005, 05:46 PM

yeah i sure hope the cops are reasonable about it; limit it to stuff that's actually dangerous.
But then from half ths stories you here...we're screwed.

-Stu

Trevor 57 · 13-04-2005, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by lizardmech

It should be limited to organized street racing and long burnouts in built up areas (not your wheels chirping from the white line at the lights).

I agree entirely (now, does that surprise you?)

needfordspeed · 08-04-2005, 05:49 PM

Are you sure? Where did you get the info from?

MAD · 08-04-2005, 05:58 PM

They do this already in canberra, for burnouts at least, 1st time is a fine, 2nd is your car is impounded, you're fined and you have to pay to get it out of impound, 3rd time your car is taken and sold and another fine of course. At least thats my understanding of it.

08-04-2005, 06:03 PM

It'd have to be a real **** of a cop that'd book you for simply taking off faster than another driver (assuming there's no other "theatrics" involved).

However, if you make a habit of being an absolute ******** on public roads then you deserve to lose your car.

dansedgli · 08-04-2005, 06:03 PM

Thats ****en shit, who wants to buy a sleeper turbo EB? I know I cant drive it around anymore, it chirps 2nd every time.

08-04-2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Thats ****en shit, who wants to buy a sleeper turbo EB? I know I cant drive it around anymore, it chirps 2nd every time.

That's not the govt's problem...

dansedgli · 08-04-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by LSD

That's not the govt's problem...

Nope its the police who are lkely to abuse this power. Thank god Im not a P plater anymore.

It chirps if I dont drive hard, its just the way it is. The trans overheats if the shift kit is off after only 10 minutes normal driving. I have never copped a speeding ticket or anything similar so Im not a hoon.

08-04-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Nope its the police who are lkely to abuse this power. Thank god Im not a P plater anymore.

It chirps if I dont drive hard, its just the way it is. The trans overheats if the shift kit is off after only 10 minutes normal driving. I have never copped a speeding ticket or anything similar so Im not a hoon.

The fact still remains that you don't need 4500000kw for sensible street driving meaning it's still your problem, not theirs.

dansedgli · 08-04-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by LSD

The fact still remains that you don't need 4500000kw for sensible street driving meaning it's still your problem, not theirs.

So people who enjoy legal racing now have to be able to afford a dedicated drag car. Thats just silly. I have to drive my car everyday.

I agree they govt doesnt care and it is us that have to deal with the consequences. I didnt think street racing was a big of a problem in this state to warrant even more drastic ways of revenue raising.

Chances are this will never effect me personally but It annoys me that at a policeman's discretion our car can be consfiscated for an indefinate amount of time.
I can see one police officer in particular around the knox area that would abuse this power to high heaven.

**Polyal** · 08-04-2005, 06:12 PM

Did you see the footage on the news?

As far as I know it will be for REPEAT offenders. And its pretty serious stuff a tosser in his silvia, thinking his some drift expert and hitting some people. Fair enough they shouldn't be there in the first place, but if your going to do burnouts then atleast know how to do it properly :/

Some people do not deserve to have a licence, I dont agree with the laws but something nees to be done.

A new complex on some shitty land somewhere would be a start, but that will never happen.

dogbreath_48 · 08-04-2005, 06:43 PM

Sounds like their out to get you with these anti-hooning laws 'HOON69'.

I imagine most officers will be reaonsonable and limit confiscation to people who frequent dangerous on-street burnout events - 7.30 report style - datto 1800's pulling heli's surrounded by hundreds of spectators.

-Stu

HOON69 · 08-04-2005, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by dogbreath_48

Sounds like their out to get you with these anti-hooning laws 'HOON69'.

I imagine most officers will be reaonsonable and limit confiscation to people who frequent dangerous on-street burnout events - 7.30 report style - datto 1800's pulling heli's surrounded by hundreds of spectators.

-Stu

lol nah didnt help having a username plate with hoon69 laying on my front dash mat either didnt they have a field day with that one LOL

since that incident i havent been booked or fined for a similar offence so its all good

e and the top hoon squad in qld hate the car scene up here so its 2nd nature to be pulled over if your in the vacinity of a large group of cars,that night i was at surfers paradise 3minutes from bwcp where 600+cars gather so the cops were out in force anyways..
funny thing was i was video taping this cop car booking ppl and in the end it was the same car booking ,me...

e

**Polyal** · 08-04-2005, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by trick_xd

so picture this
old granmar in her EL and me in my EL Both sitting at the lights ..
lights turn green. .
I take off first and faster then her.. there is a cop on the side road watching..
So what happens then.. ??
He can pull me over for " Hooning " and take my car ?

What do you Guys/Girls Think ??

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Thats ****en shit, who wants to buy a sleeper turbo EB? I know I cant drive it around anymore, it chirps 2nd every time.

comments like that are not going to help this topic...there are some complete dicks out there who take their licence for granted.

dansedgli · 08-04-2005, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

comments like that are not going to help this topic...there are some complete dicks out there who take their licence for granted.

Are you implying im one of them?

**Polyal** · 08-04-2005, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

Are you implying im one of them?

Ok here we go, no I never said that you were one of them. I know for a fact that you go to calder/heathcote or other legal places.

There is a time and a place for everything, and on the street, doing burnouts infront of big crowds is just stupid; they deserve everything they get and more.

One thing that I was amazed about is that the bloke that hit the people confessed, that would have been tough.

Has anybody even heard the report on the news, its not the bible but you must have picked up that it is for REPEAT offenders. Yes there are some cops that will abuse it, but there is truth in every lie; someone who gets "picked" on usually brings it to themselves.

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

So it's ok to do burnouts around people as long as you do it properly?

That was half tounge and cheek, relax.

I have no problem with a copper(s) who have picked up some "hoon" on consectutive occasions and they take his car and licence; some people have to learn the hard way. This is an attempt to make sure a pole doesn't tell them when to stop :/

I enjoy "spinning them up" as much as the next person, but there is a time and a place and its not near a crowd or on a main street/industrial centre.

Psycho Chicken · 08-04-2005, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

comments like that are not going to help this topic...there are some complete dicks out there who take their licence for granted.

It's a known fact certain coppers have been known to abuse their powers, so why would this be any different? It is a perfectly valid point.

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Fair enough they shouldn't be there in the first place, but if your going to do burnouts then atleast know how to do it properly :/

So it's ok to do burnouts around people as long as you do it properly?

TCK-098 · 08-04-2005, 11:32 PM

You guys get off lightly up here in NSW first time youre car gets impounded for three months+towing fee+storage+fine and three points and 1500+ gone

Why do i know this ive been done for the "burnout" up here

Yaw · 09-04-2005, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by bundybear

You guys get off lightly up here in NSW first time youre car gets impounded for three months+towing fee+storage+fine and three points and 1500+ gone

Why do i know this ive been done for the "burnout" up here

Gezzus
I imagine this would **** the parents off with kids that "Borrowed" thier cars

HOON69 · 08-04-2005, 06:41 PM

i think the rules for hooning are all back to front..

accelerating up to the speed limit
or racing to the speed limit you face car confiscation thats BS
breaking traction and creating smoke is 2 different things but just chirping your tyres you face 48 hours without a ride,its BS really..

accelerating to the speed limit is more of a "undue care n attention offence" more then a hooning type of offence

same with racing "to" the speed limit (imho anyways)

and for just chirping your tyres without creating smoke is just BS i got done cause my car skipped over a few bumps whilst heading into 2nd gear and they treated like it was a murder or something 2 cars and the top hoon squad guy rocks up with his pushbike (scooter aka motorcycle) and wanted my ride right or wrong.commonsense prevailed i kept it but was escorted outta town for 30klms by the moto cop and told to stay out..

some laws are just F'D really..

08-04-2005, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by dansedgli

even more drastic ways of revenue raising.

I'm so sick of hearing this garbage I could scream. It's not revenue raising when you have at least some choice in the matter. Don't want speeding fines? DON'T ****ING SPEED. Don't want your car confiscated? DON'T ACT LIKE A COCKMUNCHER ON PUBLIC ROADS. It's as simple as that.

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Originally Posted by HOON69

i think the rules for hooning are all back to front..

accelerating up to the speed limit
or racing to the speed limit you face car confiscation thats BS
breaking traction and creating smoke is 2 different things but just chirping your tyres you face 48 hours without a ride,its BS really..

There's a difference between accelerating to the speed limit and tramping out of the lights like your fooly sick you know, ********.

Psycho Chicken · 08-04-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by LSD

Don't want your car confiscated? DON'T ACT LIKE A COCKMUNCHER ON PUBLIC ROADS. It's as simple as that.

Of course there are no bent coppers in the world. Cops abusing power? Get outta here!

08-04-2005, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

Of course there are no bent coppers in the world. Cops abusing power? Get outta here!

Of course, there aren't car dudes who go out of their way to become cop magnets...

dogbreath_48 · 08-04-2005, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by LSD

I'm so sick of hearing this garbage I could scream. It's not revenue raising when you have at least some choice in the matter. Don't want speeding fines? DON'T ****ING SPEED. Don't want your car confiscated? DON'T ACT LIKE A COCKMUNCHER ON PUBLIC ROADS. It's as simple as that.

There's a difference between accelerating to the speed limit and tramping out of the lights like your fooly sick you know, ********.

I think people are more worried that cops will overact. Can you honestly say you've never driven at all spiritedly (spelling. i know) on the road? Wether dangerous or not, i'm sure you'd feel pretty ripped if you got your car confiscated for it, and fined, and fined again...

didn't know pulling off the line quickly made you a fully sick dude, or a ********, either...settle down i'd say...

-Stu

08-04-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dogbreath_48

I think people are more worried that cops will overact. Can you honestly say you've never driven at all spiritedly (spelling. i know) on the road? Wether dangerous or not, i'm sure you'd feel pretty ripped if you got your car confiscated for it, and fined, and fined again...

No I can't but if I got picked up then it'd be my own stupid fault and I'd only have myself to blame. I wouldn't go running around saying cops are revenue raising ****s when it was I that was at fault. If it kept happening then that would depend on whether I had actually learned from the first time. If I had, and was being unfairly targeted, then that would be a whole different story to if I'd simply kept flouting the law (and if I had, then I'd deserve to have my car confiscated). However, the easiest way to avoid being targeted, unfairly or otherwise, is simply not to make yourself a target.

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didn't know pulling off the line quickly made you a fully sick dude, or a ********, either...settle down i'd say...

I was referring more to those people who put pedal to metal as soon as the lights change only to have to put the brakes on just as quickly at the next set of lights.

neil101 · 09-04-2005, 06:21 PM

[QUOTE=LSD]I'm so sick of hearing this garbage I could scream. It's not revenue raising when you have at least some choice in the matter. Don't want speeding fines? DON'T ****ING SPEED. Don't want your car confiscated? DON'T ACT LIKE A COCKMUNCHER ON PUBLIC ROADS. It's as simple as that.

And booking people for doing 5kms over the speed limit going down a ****ing hill isn't revenue raising!!! bullshit! if your speeding you deserve to get court, I don't have my lic at the moment cause of that and that my fault. But fining people for doing 3-8kms over the speed limit is just crap.

Neil

thunderoo · 09-04-2005, 06:48 PM

And booking people for doing 5kms over the speed limit going down a ****ing hill isn't revenue raising!!! bullshit! if your speeding you deserve to get court, I don't have my lic at the moment cause of that and that my fault. But fining people for doing 3-8kms over the speed limit is just crap.

Neil[/QUOTE]

Totaly agree m8

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Kryton · 08-04-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by trick_xd

if you get court doing a " burnout " or " Hooning " then first time your car is taken off you for 48hrs next time your car could be taken and sold ..

actually the second time you lose your car for 3 months.

Quote:

Originally Posted by trick_xd

so picture this
old granmar in her EL and me in my EL Both sitting at the lights ..
lights turn green. .
I take off first and faster then her.. there is a cop on the side road watching..
So what happens then.. ??
He can pull me over for " Hooning " and take my car ?

this isnt the sort of 'hooning' they would be targeting. hooning is to be considered doing burnouts, driving dangerously and the sort.

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Originally Posted by trick_xd

Where i live it was a trial and the cops were happy with it as it got a few ppl and there cars off the road but it could not be inforced . well now it can.

and i live there too. you know exactly what type of driving they are trying to discourage. all in all i think it would sort out most of the ******** population in this town. really what reason could anyone have for doing doughnuts in the main street, doing burnouts up Cannon Hill, getting sideways around the roundabouts and undertaking cars while speeding in the main street? .

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Originally Posted by trick_xd

But this new law could be bad for a fair few of us if the police use this new law in the wrong meaning.

no if you dont drive like these tools, youll be fine. speeding is one thing, being a hoon is a whole new book.

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Originally Posted by trick_xd

(even with my black windows )

noticed a guy in a white pano or a green ZL trying to see through your window when you drive past? thats me!