Rules at the lights :)

bindi · 15-04-2005, 07:04 AM

Let's set the scene. You are in the left lane and in the right lane, the ricey doofa guy pulls up next to you. You look at him and think "could I take him? is it safe? are there any cops around? should I just ignore him?"

The lights go green and you decide, yeah what the hell. Put your foot down, change through the gears.

Ok now STOP right here... what are the rules? In my mind, the first one in front who reaches the speed limit is the winner, the one who continues on over it is a loser (specially if he can only get past you once you've hit the speed limit and eased off).

I have a trick where I look look around at the scenery while waiting for the light change, and YAWN, seeming very disinterested, like I don't even notice him. He looks at my poor old rolla with contempt... and he wonders if he should even bother trying cos I'm not really a challenge hehehehe. And then I flog his butt but ONLY UP TO THE SPEED LIMIT. I make it look like it was easy, that I didn't even notice he was trying, and that I wasn't even aware of what was happening

I'm not saying I do it much at all, just wanted to know what other people thought the "rules" are.

15-04-2005, 07:15 AM

my general rule is dont do it, d*ckheads at lights are stupid enough at lights without provoking them...

(I must say I have done it before though

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tgmor · 15-04-2005, 07:21 AM

You use similar stratagies as I do in the same situation. Try this scenario:
On the green light launch your car as fast as possible, when the dick head next to you (who would mormally take about 2 minutes to cross the intersection allowing about 2 cars to get through the green) takes off at break neck speed in attempt to stuff you up, slam on your brakes as you aproach the speed limit & duck in behind him. Now continue to accellerate as he was, usually they are not ready for this, keep pushing & you will get them to break the speed limit, something they would never do. You have now put the dick into an awkward situation & their simple brain not having dealt with this situation before faulters & doesnt know what to do. If your lucky you may have educated one more dick head driver. :dr_Evil:

AdzT3-146 · 15-04-2005, 07:29 AM

I've done it a couple of times, when my car was stock and it was funny beating a couple of ricers to the speed limit. but i don't do it anymore, just not worth it.

bindi · 15-04-2005, 07:39 AM

My other question- is it illegal to drive off from the lights at a decent speed and up to the speed limit?

Can a cop actually prove you were "racing" rather than driving? And if you don't go any faster than the speed limit, what are you doing wrong?

I've had it alot of times where I've just been taking off as usual and the car next to me seems to consider it a "race", then when I get to the speed limit and sit, they stream past me like it's proving their manhood or something.

But I really don't see what is wrong with driving up to the speed limit.

And tgmor, I am never "pushed" to do over the speed limit if I don't want to... if they wanna be d*ckhead tailgaters then when I touch my brakes and they screech to avoid an accident, then that is their issue.

Also I never like to "push" people cos that would mean I would be a d*ckhead tailgater. I like my space on the roads... perhaps that's why I hate driving in Sydney so much (you leave enough space, someone sees it as an invitation to put their car in your space!).

bindi · 15-04-2005, 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by useless

Bindi.I believe you have to sum up the situation.What if some guy pulls out of the side street (as they do) and you cant avoid him.? What if there is a pot hole a bit further up and bounce sideways? A 0-speed limit appears to be ok i legalities but wheelspin is not.

Well if someone pulls out and you are doing 60kph and you hit, then that's it, not much you can do to avoid it. Same with a pothole. It doesn't matter whether or not you are already doing 60kph or whether you have just taken off from the lights and have not quite reached 60kph.

Most of the time in NSW, around the areas where there are traffic lights it tends to be a 60kph zone (I have noticed).

merlin · 15-04-2005, 08:11 AM

As per your first post - yes the rule is to stop once you hit the speed limit and I only did it on multiple lane highways and the like with lights (generally 80km/h limit).

I hate the loser flyby at double the limit when you've already caned them and hit the brakes. It used to happen all the time in the XR6 before I sold it. Every man and his dog wanted a go due to the lack of the turbo badge on the back........didnt have any trouble flogging them though, except for SS commodores of course (though they did have a slight 1.7L advantage!, cant blame a man for trying though).

Now with the bike its even worse - everyone wants to go you, I just ignore them now and take off normally*

*Normally on my new baby = 0-100 in under 3 seconds.....

bindi · 15-04-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by merlin

Now with the bike its even worse - everyone wants to go you, I just ignore them now and take off normally*

*Normally on my new baby = 0-100 in under 3 seconds.....

*Bindi starts salivating*... you have a BIKE?

Oh God I am SO there

Got a spare helmet? :nutsycuck

merlin · 15-04-2005, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by bindi

*Bindi starts salivating*... you have a BIKE?

Oh God I am SO there

Got a spare helmet? :nutsycuck

Of course I have a spare helmet - always more fun if you share the excitement around I reckon. :hihi:

The funny thing about “racing” imports up to the speed limit is that the ones with stupidly large turbo’s (it’s a fully sik T88 mate) don’t actually spool up till crazy speeds, so their absolute slugs off the line.

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Citric GT · 15-04-2005, 08:11 AM

If you're not going over the speed limit, you are safe no matter what. As soon as you do anything over the speed limit, you are a danger on the road.

(RTA chip inserted in my head last week)

merlin · 15-04-2005, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

If you're not going over the speed limit, you are safe no matter what. As soon as you do anything over the speed limit, you are a danger on the road.

(RTA chip inserted in my head last week)

yes, i agree (in robotic monotone voice......)

On my commute home I often go a back way (50km/h limit) through suburbia. All the mums/grandpa's ect sit on 40 or thereabouts with me frustrated behind. They dont indicate, constantly cross double white lines ect ect.....but hey their going under the speed limit so their the best drivers in the world......

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bindi · 15-04-2005, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

(RTA chip inserted in my head last week)

bwahahahahahaha

Yeah well that's what I was wondering... if you do "race" or take off fast at the lights but stick at the speed limit, is it actually illegal???

And I think the ****er who flies past you is definitely the loser of the "race".

No, I am not on my P plates either.

Citric GT · 15-04-2005, 09:01 AM

It all depends on my mood and the circumstances at the time. Lately I've just been showing those front drive ricers what happens at a standstill when the brake and throttle are used at the same time...

argonEL · 16-04-2005, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Citric XR6

It all depends on my mood and the circumstances at the time. Lately I've just been showing those front drive ricers what happens at a standstill when the brake and throttle are used at the same time...

That is brilliant....

I had a "EVO 8" without a diff connecting the rear wheels (anyone say rice) rock up at the lights the other day and the dood behind the wheel gave me some looks.

3 seconds of standstill and a little cloud of smoke floated over his car :P

FordFan86 · 15-04-2005, 09:31 AM

I don't really race, my car's not fast enough lol. tho if i do, it's up to the speed limit and that's it, onto the brakes wether i lose or win

The MaDDeSTMaN · 15-04-2005, 01:41 PM

If I was to do it, it's up the speed limit only. I would also do the "not interested" look until the light goes green. I think if you can show them a clean set of tail lights (and in my case, the 2.0 badge on the rear :hihi: ) then it's my win, game over.

I'm no angel, I've done it a few times, it's suprising how well a 1976 manual 2L Escort does against some newer and supposedly faster cars...

But as has been said, it's not worth it most of the time, particularly with the cost of petrol being what it is... However, in the situation of two lanes merging into one a few hundred meters past the intersection... :hihi: But there is always a limit, and taking stupid risks such as forcing someone to take evasive action is just not cool.

Barry_v · 15-04-2005, 02:48 PM

remember kids, 60kmph@5000rpm is faster than 60kmph@1200rpm.

XDSLIDER · 15-04-2005, 03:14 PM

STREET RACING IS NOT DRAG RACING

Who cares if you race to 60kph or 160kph, normal suburban streets are not race tracks.

15-04-2005, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by XDSLIDER

STREET RACING IS NOT DRAG RACING

Who cares if you race to 60kph or 160kph, normal suburban streets are not race tracks.

Correct you have to have a strip for a drag race and you never seem to hit the speed limit

Whats with that

New speed limit for drag strips , to be inforced from next month 150kmh

MissUnderstood · 15-04-2005, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XDSLIDER

STREET RACING IS NOT DRAG RACING

Who cares if you race to 60kph or 160kph, normal suburban streets are not race tracks.

I totally agree.

After reading this thread I wondered why they had a go at the guys chatting in a thread about there burnouts.
Burnouts on quite back street roads. They coped a hammering over that, yet this thread is by far worse imo. Talking about the "rules “ of racing at lights is just plain stupid. yep get through the lights as quick as you can and pray no other dick trots a red light.

Yaw · 16-04-2005, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MissUnderstood

I totally agree.

After reading this thread I wondered why they had a go at the guys chatting in a thread about there burnouts.
Burnouts on quite back street roads. They coped a hammering over that, yet this thread is by far worse imo. Talking about the "rules “ of racing at lights is just plain stupid. yep get through the lights as quick as you can and pray no other dick trots a red light.

I gotta say I agree too. Its just way too risky that a little old lady with a walker will come out in front of you from the shops to cross the road or something like that. But guys even if it was the other guy that hit or hurt someone I'm sure you would feel a measure of resposibility too. guys I know its all legal what you are on about but that does not make it right. I am by no means saying I am an angel in this respect either, I have put my foot down
to get in front of someone so I can change lanes...we have all done it I guess but maybe we need to think about it some more.

By the way my example I used for the above was simply pictured in my head of north bound Gympie rd from B.P. Aspley through the aspley shopping centre. Those that know the area will be able to see the picture in thier head that I came up with.

15-04-2005, 03:45 PM

well forget the ricers what about the bikers
two lanes ,at the lights and one of those bikes 250cc or less cuts through the middle and stops next to you ,in a non exeistant lane hmmmmmmm well i boot it off the line and re claim my lane
and thats in the old BA wagon

LuvinmyEB · 15-04-2005, 03:53 PM

Depending on the situation, first to the speed limit or when you see the tail lights of my car (before the speed limit) it's game over. I win, you lose.

Not that I condone or would ever do anything like this. :newangel:

I love doing that I'm sooooooo not even interested in taking you down Mr. Commodore driver... yawn... green light, see ya!!

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15-04-2005, 04:12 PM

The way I see it is, you go until you either hit roughly 100-120 or the base it on the road condition.

I mean, I don't go at any lights, it's gotta be safe to do so (ie. straight flat non wet road). I wouldn't go to the speed limit, cos at 60 pretty much all cars are neck and neck unless a Pursuit taking on a little rolla. On my fireblade, I hit 60 in first gear at 20k rpm, in what feels like sub 2 seconds, and being on a jap race bike, I get challeneged soo much it's silly. If a SS pulls up beside me (ford vs. holden aside) - the bogans ALWAYS want to race. Never had a single SS who didn't rev beside me...pfft, you'd think common sense would tell them they don't stand a chance again a motorbike :P

15-04-2005, 04:39 PM

They didnt even stand a chance against my old CBR600

Bangers Fireblade speed 0-60 would be more like just over 1's . it would be
0-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip-60

Brute33 · 15-04-2005, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Stampy

They didnt even stand a chance against my old CBR600

Bangers Fireblade speed 0-60 would be more like just over 1's . it would be
0-zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzip-60

Bikes are an entirely different category and you can't compare the 2 . As for your 600 , my old FJ1200 would make it look like a vespa.

dogbreath_48 · 15-04-2005, 06:29 PM

I think it's great to go bikes just to see how danm fast they are! Impressive or what! I know short of tubs i've got no decent chance! No matter what i drive...

If i ever race someone, i make it look easy. Sit back and relax, while they're beside you with their tongue poking out, jerking backwards and forwards as if to will their car on....funny stuff...

-Stu

YOOT · 15-04-2005, 06:32 PM

The winner is the the one who is behind when the other car backs off. So if your trick is to come from behind and win at high speeds, you'll more often lose with my rules. However, the other car may back off when he sees you coming, and that can be counted as a forfiet, out classed.

I tend to not invoke a race, just try to defend my title should I be challenged. Which means I don't launch the car hard, so inevitably a hand full of slow cars actually beat me by the time I react.

Nothing better than having E-Series boys iwth cams and diff gears bitching at my ute only doing a 14.7 when there 10 y/o EBs can do the same or better, but when I line em up on the freeway they can't keep up!

Fact - XR6 Turbo 5th gear accelarates faster than E-series in 3rd over 100kmh. Funny as ****!

bindi · 15-04-2005, 06:37 PM

Yeah while we're on the subject... why do bikes sidle up between cars at the lights? It's illegal

I know it's cos you take off faster than a jackrabbit, but still!

My dad (a former bike rider) calls it the Honda Highway.

15-04-2005, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Brute33

Bikes are an entirely different category and you can't compare the 2 . As for your 600 , my old FJ1200 would make it look like a vespa.

well the only race i had with an old fj1200 was through a speed camera at 170kmh and we were side by side

not so fast if you can't get the power down