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Old 05-12-2007, 03:51 PM   #1
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Default EB Torque Converter or AU?

Im putting an EB auto trans into my au, we can't get the bell housing off either off them because u need a special tool....

Should we just keep the EB transmisson bell housing or try and actually swap them over?

Will it actually matter?

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Old 05-12-2007, 03:56 PM   #2
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why not put a 4.1 crossflow in as well to completly downgrade the car? the EB tranny although a BTR is different and a backward step if you need to replace the tranny get an AU one
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:14 PM   #3
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............Help please.......
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Old 05-12-2007, 04:17 PM   #4
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............Help please.......
Have fun, the shifter location is different between the EB & AU IIRC and also the ECU will most likely have issues running it.
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Are the torque converters and bell housings the same? If so, then you should be right just to bolt it up. If not, then you will need to change them over.

.........me wonders why you would attempt this if you don't know what you are doing!!!!
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Have fun, the shifter location is different between the EB & AU IIRC and also the ECU will most likely have issues running it.
He should be able to use the AU shifter with the EB tranny - just swap everything over, and possibly custom fit (ie modify/cut/etc) the actuator bar.
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Old 05-12-2007, 11:00 PM   #7
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Are the torque converters and bell housings the same? If so, then you should be right just to bolt it up. If not, then you will need to change them over.

.........me wonders why you would attempt this if you don't know what you are doing!!!!
To learn, we have a knowledge of how to put it in just need to know a few things...Cheers
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The ECU wont run it... It should bolt up no worries but in the manuals the input shaft on the E-series is longer this might be the case with the auto as well im not sure i've never heard of anyone doing it??? the E-series box changes gears so slow and is a of a gearbox but hey if ya want to do it you probably could i dont see why but you will have ECU problems as the AU's ECU, IIRC is a one piece unit engine and gearbox were as the E-series has one for the box and one for the Engine i could be wrong...Have fun
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He should be able to use the AU shifter with the EB tranny - just swap everything over, and possibly custom fit (ie modify/cut/etc) the actuator bar.
but why would you do it it is a pig of a tranny
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but why would you do it it is a pig of a tranny
Because he got one off ebay for about $50 or $100 - so even if it only works 75% as good as an AU one, it's less than 5% of the cost of a rebuilt AU tranny, and will do the job.
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Old 07-12-2007, 12:42 AM   #11
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Hey mate i had an eb trans n stall in my au. The bel housing bolts are just a socket. Straight from ya standard set. U just have 4 instead of 8 bolts holding it there. Mine went fine. But it wouldnt engine brake in 1 2 or 3 and it would intermitently stay in drive. And wouldnt reverse. I think they were other issues NOT RELATED to it being in an au. As the gbox shop never mentioned anything when i asked about the issues i had.
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:45 AM   #12
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Hey mate i had an eb trans n stall in my au. The bel housing bolts are just a socket. Straight from ya standard set. U just have 4 instead of 8 bolts holding it there. Mine went fine. But it wouldnt engine brake in 1 2 or 3 and it would intermitently stay in drive. And wouldnt reverse. I think they were other issues NOT RELATED to it being in an au. As the gbox shop never mentioned anything when i asked about the issues i had.
Thanks mate for that!

We've already installed the auto using the eb bell housing lol....
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So everything is ok? Least she bolted up with the eb bellhousing!
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Old 08-12-2007, 12:30 PM   #14
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So everything is ok? Least she bolted up with the eb bellhousing!
Well now the car wont start so i cant even test the auto out....I brigded 2 wires from the stater motor rely and it cranks over but no spark...
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Well now the car wont start so i cant even test the auto out....I brigded 2 wires from the stater motor rely and it cranks over but no spark...
That's the immobiliser kicking in. It is very difficult to "hot wire" an AU to get it to go. You have to use the key etc otherwise the inbuilt security features will not allow it to start.
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Old 10-12-2007, 03:50 AM   #16
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Yay auto is working very well! Shifts great, a little loose but will proberly need a auto service! But for $50 im not complaning! The car goes even harder then before in 1st and 2nd and even 3rd! Im loving it!!!

Got the whole job done including the price of the auto for all under $200!

Thanks everyone for your help too!
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Old 10-12-2007, 10:40 AM   #17
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AWESOME to hear mate!!!

i bet you were feeling very unsure with all the negative comments above before i came along eh hehehe

hope she holds together for a while for ya till u get it serviced

is yours real tight in the shifter department??
my EB box was hard to move the gear selector

but on the AU box its real smooth and soft sorta thing
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What was the issue with starting it?
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he started a different thread..
turned out to be an engine bay fuse marked ENGINE
replaced fuse and worked fine
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turned out to be an engine bay fuse marked ENGINE
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That'd do it!
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Hay guys I have just got a ED ford falcon today it is not going into gears right it just keeps slipping its alright when its cold but after 2 mins it just starts slipping and its smooth nothing hard no bang's just sleeps could it be the torque converter or id the gearbox just ****** any help would be nice tyvm
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I'd say your fluid is low. Service it (filter and fluid change) and it should be good.
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alright I will give that a try thanks
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yep that seem to have done it the filter was that blocked it could not get any oil in it but now it seems to make a bit of a knock when its changing gears could it be because of all the old oil in it >??????
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