Manual sporty SUV options

[naddis01]

I can't believe I am asking this question but what sporty manual SUVs are there?

We have bought a new house that has a steep driveway that instantly flattens into the carport. The change in slope is aggressive enough that my wifes I20N bottoms out on the change in gradient. Hence the question.

Criteria....
Manual transmission
More ground clearance than an I20N
New or near new
Nothing too big

Something along the lines of a Puma ST or Kona N would be ideal but a don't think are available here.

[FTE217]

CX3 https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...1820366/?Cr=55
Vitara
Jimny https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...0716225/?Cr=35
Puma ST is available https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...gType=showcase

[naddis01]

I'm thinking more along the lines of jacked up hot hatch rather than run of the mill.

The Puma ST Line is available but not the full fat ST.

[Dr Smith]

Thinking outside the box...what about adjustable/pump up ride height...ala East LA style....

[Big_Daz]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I can't believe I am asking this question but what sporty manual SUVs are there?

We have bought a new house that has a steep driveway that instantly flattens into the carport. The change in slope is aggressive enough that my wifes I20N bottoms out on the change in gradient. Hence the question.

Criteria....
Manual transmission
More ground clearance than an I20N
New or near new
Nothing too big

Something along the lines of a Puma ST or Kona N would be ideal but a don't think are available here.

Kona N is available here… just over $50k da for base mid $50ks for premium. Has the i30n drivetrain (200+ kw, etc). I’ve driven a few and they are awesome and worth a look. No manual though (DCT only) so may be off your list.

https://www.hyundai.com/au/en/cars/sports-cars/kona-n


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[FTE217]

not much around as a HOT SUV hatch depending budget as you know.
IMO the ST Puma is nice but a lame small motor but suits the general shopping burb trolley.
My wife the target and one day maybe her upgrade.
What other Jap/Korean is there that is sporty as ?
Kona N
Tiguan R
Macan

https://www.drive.com.au/caradvice/f...w-hot-hatches/

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by naddis01

I can't believe I am asking this question but what sporty manual SUVs are there?

We have bought a new house that has a steep driveway that instantly flattens into the carport. The change in slope is aggressive enough that my wifes I20N bottoms out on the change in gradient. Hence the question.

Criteria....
Manual transmission
More ground clearance than an I20N
New or near new
Nothing too big

Something along the lines of a Puma ST or Kona N would be ideal but a don't think are available here.

Park it on the street 👍

[Bossxr8]

The Cupra Formentor is the hot ticket, basically Golf R running gear in a higher body, but I don't know if it comes in manual. I'm assuming probably just DCT?

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by Big_Daz

Kona N is available here… just over $50k da for base mid $50ks for premium. Has the i30n drivetrain (200+ kw, etc). I’ve driven a few and they are awesome and worth a look. No manual though (DCT only) so may be off your list.

https://www.hyundai.com/au/en/cars/sports-cars/kona-n


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Yeah the Kona N is available but I was talking a manual version.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

A recent article which may help you. Not much to choose from given your criteria....Kia Sportage might be the closest, but I'm not sure I'd call that 'sporty'?

https://www.whichcar.com.au/advice/e...an-buy-in-2023

[naddis01]

Thanks for the link. It appears there is nothing to suit our criteria. I might have to come up with some ideas on modifying the driveway instead.

[westoftown]

could you raise the i20?

Friend of mine lived in an area where there was a lot of poorly surfaced roads with potholes among other things, put some higher suspension on his wifes Mazda 2. Was mild enough to have solved the problem and not so wild that it became unstable or a liability, she loved the car too much to sell it.

Worth considering?

[kevino]

Yes there is two

Mazda Cx 3 2 litre manual
Kia Sportage 2 litre manual

The Cx 3 is the better performer torque comes on at 2800 rpm.

The Puma in Aus is auto only - I own one - the seven speed dual clutch auto does not like steep drives I walk up them.

There is also the Mitsubishi ASX but its design is ten years old.

There is the odd Cx 3 available there’s one new for 28 k da in Lismore Nsw.

[kevino]

Yes there is a Vitara 1.6 manual but the engine is a slug

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Thanks for the link. It appears there is nothing to suit our criteria. I might have to come up with some ideas on modifying the driveway instead.

either this or a 2CV.

[hayseed]

[XR Martin]

You could also try slightly bigger tyres as well as a 10mm spacer in the spring seat.

[XR Martin]

Originally Posted by kevino

Yes there is two

Mazda Cx 3 2 litre manual
Kia Sportage 2 litre manual

The Cx 3 is the better performer torque comes on at 2800 rpm.

The Puma in Aus is auto only - I own one - the seven speed dual clutch auto does not like steep drives I walk up them.

There is also the Mitsubishi ASX but its design is ten years old.

There is the odd Cx 3 available there’s one new for 28 k da in Lismore Nsw.

Sportage is massive compared to a CX3.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by hayseed

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Yes, that's what it needs however the driveway is already concrete. I'm not real keen on ripping the whole thing up to re do it.

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Yes, that's what it needs however the driveway is already concrete. I'm not real keen on ripping the whole thing up to re do it.

Why Rip the lot up..??

Just get a concrete saw & cut & replace/flatten the pinch Point..!!

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

The Cupra Formentor is the hot ticket, basically Golf R running gear in a higher body, but I don't know if it comes in manual. I'm assuming probably just DCT?

Yer I forgot about the Cupra.
They are a good looking nice size SUV.

Why have to be a manual ?
My wife learnt in one but would never bother anymore.
Limits choices today.


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[naddis01]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Why Rip the lot up..??

Just get a concrete saw & cut & replace/flatten the pinch Point..!!

The flat part is literally the house slab. I'm not keen on cutting that. So to come back far enough down the driveway to correct the angles would require basically ripping up the entire driveway.

Not to mention the price of concrete out here is ridiculously expensive.

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by FTE217

Yer I forgot about the Cupra.
They are a good looking nice size SUV.

Why have to be a manual ?
My wife learnt in one but would never bother anymore.
Limits choices today.


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A few reasons...
We prefer manuals
My kids are reaching driving age and I want them to learn in a manual
We prefer manuals

[kevino]

Dct s and hills not a good combo

Manuals and hills a good combo

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Yes, that's what it needs however the driveway is already concrete. I'm not real keen on ripping the whole thing up to re do it.

Parking it on the street is free, you don't need to modify the driveway and you get to keep the car too

[hayseed]

Originally Posted by naddis01

Not to mention the price of concrete out here is ridiculously expensive.

Be cheaper than buying another Car..!!

[naddis01]

Originally Posted by hayseed

Be cheaper than buying another Car..!!

Have you seen the used market lately. I would be able to sell the I20N for more than I paid for it.

[kevino]

Not keen on the CX3?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kevino

Not keen on the CX3?

You guys all know what an i20N is right?

All the suggestions in this thread for SUVs have been lame *** shopping trolleys

[kevino]

Trouble is
It’s
About
The only
Option

Max rpm each gear and just pretend it’s something else