Hoon Laws

[blazingwilly]

PROPOSED NEW HOON LAWS
don't lend your car to anyone, i know i wont anymore.
i used to lend it to family, and close friends, but the risk is to great now,
if they take of to fast, or do anything wrong, and the cops decides he or she is a hoon, i will loose my car for 30 days its up to the officers discretion .
cars are safer now ,better handling, better brakes, air bags etc etc etc
and yet they bring most speed limits down.i can give you at least a dozen examples ,but here is just 1, coming out of the tunnel towards S/E suburbs
80klm zone must be for at least 3 k or more ,BLOODY TWITS. yarra valley most of it 80 klm. coming back from adelaide 110 ok fine ,hit the vitorian border it 100 http://www.fordforums.com.au/newthre...newthread&f=2#
VICTORIA IS FAST BECOMING A DICTATOR STATE
must leave this post iam getting depressed

[chrisfpv]

[NAFairlane]

i find this subject simple tho, just dont get caught lol

[XCwillo]

WHat he said
Dont get caught
I often do about 320k's along back streets on my way to work
Only when i fill up with fulbber tho
Normal 98 petrol and i get about 300k's in some 60 zones
Never get caught so its never a problem.

[flappist]

You guys are missing the point.....

YOU DO NOT GET CAUGHT

Someone else does and YOU lose your car for a crime you did not commit...

Great idea though, all of the rental houses that have crimes committed in them should confiscated particularly those owned by anyone in the politacal or public service arena.

AND MOST IMPORTANTLY

Any political electorate that has a crime committed in it should be confiscated from the sitting member and the political party they belong to.....

[mrbaxr6t]

Originally Posted by flappist

Any political electorate that has a crime committed in it should be confiscated from the sitting member and the political party they belong to.....

and I thought we swapped pollies fast now with that they would maybe have what 10 seconds in office in each electorate, all good tho GEN-Y attention span is only 8 seconds

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by flappist

You guys are missing the point.....

YOU DO NOT GET CAUGHT

Someone else does and YOU lose your car for a crime you did not commit...

And?
This ALREADY happens anyway with Hoon laws.

If you have knucklehead mates and you lend you car to them - your just as much at fault as the person driving it.
They dont give guns out to morons anymore, why give your car to one.

[svo supporter]

This law has been round for a while now. There have been threads on this forum relating to cars being impounded by drivers hooning in cars that don't belong to them, not to mention plenty of media coverage about it.

So really this is another thread running along the same lines.

[LTDHO]

I thought this had been law since hoon laws came in.

[NAFairlane]

this reminds me of a thread that was around a while back where a bloke was storing his unregistered car in a mates garage and when the bank reposessed the blokes house they took the other blokes car too, i think it took the bloke a matter of months to even locate his car nevermind get it back

[Kryton]

Originally Posted by NAFairlane

this reminds me of a thread that was around a while back where a bloke was storing his unregistered car in a mates garage and when the bank reposessed the blokes house they took the other blokes car too, i think it took the bloke a matter of months to even locate his car nevermind get it back

It was never ascertained if the the bank or anyone else took the car.
The car has not been found and it was only 2 months ago.

[Mickxr8]

I Would really like to comment on this subject but common courtesy, T+C`s and the swear filter would not go down well hehe.

[tex]

Originally Posted by NAFairlane

This subject simple, dont get caught.

Slight edit, I am with you brother.

[Ben73]

Originally Posted by blazingwilly

yarra valley most of it 80 klm. coming back from adelaide 110 ok fine ,hit the vitorian border it 100 [
VICTORIA IS FAST BECOMING A DICTATOR STATE
must leave this post iam getting depressed

10 Kmh drop is stupid but it isn't too bad. I drive a road everyday that has been dropped from 100 to 60.... well the 60 zone has been extended by 500metres for no apparent reason, and the 100 zone was dropped to 90.


I agree how its ******** modern cars are 100% safer then a 30 year old car, yet all limits are dropping.


Done feel depressed about Vic laws.... other states are slowly following.

[dylancox]

Originally Posted by XCwillo

WHat he said
Dont get caught
I often do about 320k's along back streets on my way to work
Only when i fill up with fulbber tho
Normal 98 petrol and i get about 300k's in some 60 zones
Never get caught so its never a problem.

Sorry, i've missed the point. The thread is about hoon laws, the original post was 'dont get caught'.. and you are talking fuel efficiency figures, 'fulbber?', petrol grades and speed zones?

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by mrbaxr6t

and I thought we swapped pollies fast now with that they would maybe have what 10 seconds in office in each electorate

And did we think the new lot was going to save us Victorians, they only want to save you when there sitting in opposition, now they need the cash just like the last lot that were kicked out of office, just keeps rolling on.

[Mickxr8]

Originally Posted by SpoolMan

And did we think the new lot was going to save us Victorians, they only want to save you when there sitting in opposition, now they need the cash just like the last lot that were kicked out of office, just keeps rolling on.

I thought we wernt allowed to bash pollies on here ?.
(according to forum T+C`s)
Dont get me wrong, I love a good pollie bashing when they deserve it
maybe russ can clear this up a bit ?.
judging on recent posts, a lot of stuff seems to not get pulled up as much.
(Woo hoo for me , coz I sometimes post some dumb ***)
Maybe a refined `sticky` ?

[SpoolMan]

Originally Posted by mickxr8

I thought we wernt allowed to bash pollies on here ?.
?

Not bashing any party or person, just stating its here to stay and we all hate it but have to live with it who ever is running our States.
States have came so accustomed to the large amounts of money from our cars, even if you or I were running the State we now rely on the this money for a good chunk of the budget.

[Linkachu]

Anyone that plans on going to easternats better leave your modified car at home.
In Benalla they are going to cut off the main bridge so there is only one way through town. Any modified car will be put off the road even for the most stupidest of things.

This law hasnt been passed yet either for the 30 days first offence, but its going to be 30 days then crush/sell the car on 2nd offence.

[mrbaxr6t]

Originally Posted by Linkachu

Anyone that plans on going to easternats better leave your modified car at home.
In Benalla they are going to cut off the main bridge so there is only one way through town. Any modified car will be put off the road even for the most stupidest of things.

This law hasnt been passed yet either for the 30 days first offence, but its going to be 30 days then crush/sell the car on 2nd offence.

OKAY so a gathering that people attend because they have modified cars and the fans attend to see said modified cars will be disappointed if what you say is true, the modified cars wont make the event this will likely peeve the ones that go to see them because they won't be there, then there is the knock on effect next year of declining spectatorship and crumbier cars in attendance because they can "get there" but the govt will make a fortune fining car owners attempting to attend the event, the local businesses on the other hand will likely be extremely angry as the spectatorship was crap and they didn't get the additional sales from all these visitors they were expecting

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by mrbaxr6t

OKAY so a gathering that people attend because they have modified cars and the fans attend to see said modified cars will be disappointed if what you say is true, the modified cars wont make the event this will likely peeve the ones that go to see them because they won't be there, then there is the knock on effect next year of declining spectatorship and crumbier cars in attendance because they can "get there" but the govt will make a fortune fining car owners attempting to attend the event, the local businesses on the other hand will likely be extremely angry as the spectatorship was crap and they didn't get the additional sales from all these visitors they were expecting

This is what was told to me first hand from police, it is stupid. But the Victorian Gov seems to think anyone with a modified car is a hoon and should not be on the road.

Last week 90 cars got canaried, all of them modified. Luckily i was in melb

[blazingwilly]

THE Victorian Government will spend this month mapping out a timeline for the introduction of its new tough anti-hoon laws, named a top priority at the state election.

This comes as a spate of reckless driving behaviour on Wyndham roads last week shocked police, including a P-Plater clocked at 90km/h over the limit in a Wyndham Vale residential area.

The man’s car was impounded for 48 hours under anti-hoon laws.

Under the proposed law, he would have lost his car for 30 days.

Paul Price, spokesman for Crime Prevention Minister Andrew McIntosh, said the process of introducing the new laws was under way.

“The minister is in the process of receiving briefings in order to determine the legislative timetable for the introduction of tough new hoon laws,” Mr Price.

“These tough new laws will increase impoundment times, force hoon drivers to take safe driving training, and forfeit and crush the vehicles of the worst repeat offenders.”

The new changes would see an immediate 30-day vehicle impoundment for a first hoon offence and three months for a second offence.

This is tougher than the amendment proposed by the former Brumby Labor Government, which wanted a seven-day impoundment for the first offence.

A third would result in the vehicle being stripped for parts and then crushed.

Wyndham Highway Patrol detected a driver, 18, as he sped along Ballan Rd at 160km/h, 90km/h over the limit, on January 3.

Sen-Constable Matt Wilson, of the Wyndham Highway Patrol, said he was in disbelief when he sighted the speeding P-plater at 10.20pm.

He said the consequences of a crash would have been fatal.

The driver was fined $597 fine, lost eight demerit points and his licence was suspended for 12 months.

The incident capped five hours of reckless behaviour on Wyndham roads that night.

A Tarneit man, 39, was caught driving at 131km/h in a 100kmh zone along Hopkins Rd Truganina. He lost his licence for a month, was fined $328 and had four demerit points deducted.

[Jim Goose]

If your dumb enough to lend your car to mate who is an idiot driver, then one should get new mates.

As for the staus quo about new governments and nothing changing, just remember to vote them out in 3yrs.... you can wait that long surely?

[xisled]

Originally Posted by blazingwilly

THE Victorian Government will spend this month mapping out a timeline for the introduction of its new tough anti-hoon laws, named a top priority at the state election.

This comes as a spate of reckless driving behaviour on Wyndham roads last week shocked police, including a P-Plater clocked at 90km/h over the limit in a Wyndham Vale residential area.

The man’s car was impounded for 48 hours under anti-hoon laws.

Under the proposed law, he would have lost his car for 30 days.

Paul Price, spokesman for Crime Prevention Minister Andrew McIntosh, said the process of introducing the new laws was under way.

“The minister is in the process of receiving briefings in order to determine the legislative timetable for the introduction of tough new hoon laws,” Mr Price.

“These tough new laws will increase impoundment times, force hoon drivers to take safe driving training, and forfeit and crush the vehicles of the worst repeat offenders.”

The new changes would see an immediate 30-day vehicle impoundment for a first hoon offence and three months for a second offence.

This is tougher than the amendment proposed by the former Brumby Labor Government, which wanted a seven-day impoundment for the first offence.

A third would result in the vehicle being stripped for parts and then crushed.

Wyndham Highway Patrol detected a driver, 18, as he sped along Ballan Rd at 160km/h, 90km/h over the limit, on January 3.

Sen-Constable Matt Wilson, of the Wyndham Highway Patrol, said he was in disbelief when he sighted the speeding P-plater at 10.20pm.

He said the consequences of a crash would have been fatal.

The driver was fined $597 fine, lost eight demerit points and his licence was suspended for 12 months.

The incident capped five hours of reckless behaviour on Wyndham roads that night.

A Tarneit man, 39, was caught driving at 131km/h in a 100kmh zone along Hopkins Rd Truganina. He lost his licence for a month, was fined $328 and had four demerit points deducted.

LOL they make it sound like it was in with houses, but Ballan road is a huge road for the most of it has new estates with no houses or has only farm land around it.

Anywhere there are houses on Ballan road is a 70k zone and where there is only farm land it is a 90k zone.

Love how they say this

This comes as a spate of reckless driving behaviour on Wyndham roads last week shocked police, including a P-Plater clocked at 90km/h over the limit in a Wyndham Vale residential area.

The area he was caught in has no houses around it just farm land.
where he got caught there is nothing but farm land.

These laws are a joke, they do not do anything apart from win votes and make it look like the government is doing something.

[grandpa_spec_F6]

Is it just me, or did I only notice the sharp increase in "hoons" since the anti-hooning laws came in? Prior to that, I'd see a few stupid things, but now I see them everywhere.

P-Platers accelerating up to the speed limit with a non-factory exhaust... hoon!

Grandpa with his arm on the window sill and one hand on the steering wheel....hoon!

Business man in his Merc with a dark tint.... hoon!

They're everywhere I tell you! I've done the responsible thing and sold off all my possible 'hoon' cars and bikes, and like a good smug, green citizen, bought a prius.

[tyler06]

The hoon law here in wa is 1st offence 28days 2nd offence 3mnths and 3rd offence car auctioned or scrapped depending on value. I also agree if you have mates that are gonna do that crap in your car then dont lend it. Lol especially if they dont have a car cause theirs is impounded haha.

[Linkachu]

Originally Posted by grandpa_spec_au

Is it just me, or did I only notice the sharp increase in "hoons" since the anti-hooning laws came in? Prior to that, I'd see a few stupid things, but now I see them everywhere.

P-Platers accelerating up to the speed limit with a non-factory exhaust... hoon!

Grandpa with his arm on the window sill and one hand on the steering wheel....hoon!

Business man in his Merc with a dark tint.... hoon!

They're everywhere I tell you! I've done the responsible thing and sold off all my possible 'hoon' cars and bikes, and like a good smug, green citizen, bought a prius.

Thats exactly what its turned into, bloody ridiculous.

[Streets]

Originally Posted by xisled

These laws are a joke, they do not do anything apart from win votes and make it look like the government is doing something.

The sad part is that it's working.

[388cube_edxr8]

I think it's wrong that a Government body can take possession of your car and do with it as they please.

Driving is not a privilege but a right, I earned my license through study and practice, I will drive my car at my own discretion. However, failing to comply with the rules of the road should result in fines and a negative impact on my license. I was given a license by the Government, on the condition that I comply with their rules, on their roads.

My car, however, was bought by me, as a result of a lot of hard work. It is mine, and solely mine. No part of it is owned by the Government. Temporarily impounding a car is bad enough, but tolerable if it will help get the genuinely dangerous drivers off the road for a bit. But permanent confiscation and destruction of a car is morally wrong, a little communist, an invasion of civil rights and a massive conflict of interest on the part of the Governing body.

It's legalized theft. But only of the Government does it. If anyone else tries it, it's a punishable criminal offense.

[Jim Goose]

Driving is not a privilege but a right, I earned my license through study and practice, I will drive my car at my own discretion. However, failing to comply with the rules of the road should result in fines and a negative impact on my license. I was given a license by the Government, on the condition that I comply with their rules, on their roads.

Er.. sorry but it isnt enshrined in law that you have a "right to drive".... its priviledge
There is no such thing.