what cam with a 3000 stallie?

[slamd ef wagon]

gday guys just woundering with u guys that run the jmm3000 what cam did you use as i asked crow and they told me non of there cams would work with a stallie as there power starts at 1500rpm(cams which work with the stock ecu that is)

cheers

[Casper]

If I had a non VCT... I'd actually get the DEV4 JMM cam. It seems to work exceptionally well after 3000rpm. Otherwise some of the more lumpy wade cams would probably be decent too as most of them seem to work in the E series autos but had idle issues that the stall may help overcome.

[slamd ef wagon]

cheers mate for that advise

[Aaron_EF8]

All the stalling problems in E-Series 6's [And AU's I pressume] with big cams and stock ECU's is from the MAP sensor trying to achieve the target MAP signal, but the cam can only provide slightly lower vacuum, so the ECU has a fit.

What other mods do you have? Any cam where the powerband starts at 2500-3000 will suit the convertor, but not so much the rest of the stock parts on the car.

How do JMM stop the auto going into limp home mode with the 3000 stall?

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

All the stalling problems in E-Series 6's [And AU's I pressume] with big cams and stock ECU's is from the MAP sensor trying to achieve the target MAP signal, but the cam can only provide slightly lower vacuum, so the ECU has a fit.

Sorry, wasnt aware that that what the issues were. The AU is different and, with basically no Wade cams really avaliable and the crow cams being pretty much hopeless there isnt a lot of choices for the AU anymore. I am not sure what hamo has but its not JMM, apart from that near on all the AU I6 cars I can think of are running JMM cams anyhow.. and none really have major idle issues.

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

How do JMM stop the auto going into limp home mode with the 3000 stall?

No idea but, apart from cooking the trans oil but just sitting and stalling at 3000rpm, it never does it. I have only had it go into limphome once and I did it deliberatly but stalling up to 3000rpm and holding it there.. (actually, could stall to 3200rpm, Sprint_ED was with me at the time). As far as I know they just put the stall in and the ECU seems to deal with it just fine. That said the fastest way to launch it (in mine) is to only stall to 1700-1900rpm then flash it to 3000+rpm as you release the brakes.. any higher stall and you seem to just sit and smoke the tyres.

[slamd ef wagon]

[What other mods do you have? Any cam where the powerband starts at 2500-3000 will suit the convertor, but not so much the rest of the stock parts on the car.


pacy comps,cat,2.5 zorst, hi flow filter, cold air induction, stage 2 shift kit, huge trans cooler

[galapogos01]

OT, but can I ask how much JMM charge for their stalls, fitted?

[LG]

Originally Posted by galapogos01

OT, but can I ask how much JMM charge for their stalls, fitted?

Around the $1k mark, that also includes a Oil Cooler.

Hamo is running a Crow Cam by the way. Although he has also got chiptorque and unichip to control it, as well as the hi stall. So he gets the best use out of the Crow cam.

[galapogos01]

hmm. i already have a cooler..

the price is offputting, but then so is everyone complaining about limp home mode.

damn cars.

[Casper]

Originally Posted by galapogos01

hmm. i already have a cooler..

the price is offputting, but then so is everyone complaining about limp home mode.

damn cars.

I havent had an issue with limphome mode at all.

[galapogos01]

i meant with alternative convertors... i know youre a big JMM fan

[Casper]

Originally Posted by galapogos01

i meant with alternative convertors... i know youre a big JMM fan

Useless has another sort of stall in his au wagon and hasnt had a limp home issue either. Maybe the AU's dont really have that much of an issue afterall.

[Stav]

My stall converter is 3300 stall speed and it is an efficient little bugger.I can stall it from Sydney to Melbourne and not have limp, home until the universal joints snap. I dont know why? On Spiro at autotech engineerings dyno it showed no loss at all.

[galapogos01]

what brand is your stall? any more information?

TCE stalls are a hell of a lot cheaper than JMM.

[5speedeb]

Originally Posted by galapogos01

what brand is your stall? any more information?

TCE stalls are a hell of a lot cheaper than JMM.

do they work as good as the jmm stall?

[galapogos01]

for half the price im almost willing to find out.

would love to know what hamo and useless are using. despite people thinking AUs are super high tech, i dont think they will behave all that differently.

[Walkinshaw]

AaronEF8 has a 2500TCE stall in his car, works a treat and my lord does she get up and boogie. No LHM either.

[Stav]

Who is tce? Guys...seriously it was folly and comedy of errors which led me to this converter.Wait and see what it does. Maybe my car has issues like it owner and doesnt go into limp home mode?

Maybe JMM and dominator get better results?

[slamd ef wagon]

Originally Posted by galapogos01

for half the price im almost willing to find out.

would love to know what hamo and useless are using. despite people thinking AUs are super high tech, i dont think they will behave all that differently.

mate please let me no were u have seen tce converters for $300 then cos ill buy one asap!!!!!

[Aaron_EF8]

What brand convertors do JMM paint and re-badge as their own?

[Casper]

Originally Posted by Aaron_EF8

What brand convertors do JMM paint and re-badge as their own?

JMM brand. Its custom fabricated just for them.

[Walkinshaw]

I think the question's intention was. "Who is the manufacturer of the JMM converters"

[Stav]

My converter i from torque converter indutries in Seven Hills. It is good.I asked for a 2500 stall because of fear mongering on the forum and by mistake it turned out to be 3300 stall speed. I suppose they did not count on my engine torque pushing it that high.But it is all heavy duty.I think I paid 330? It cost me 220 to install at j and j performance transmissions in Yennora.

Now I just hope it works on the 1/4

[Walkinshaw]

Does yours still have lockup, like the Dominator/TCE/JMM converters do?

[mcflux]

I am quite interested in this! /me subscribes to thread

[Qwikcorty]

these convertors from jmm tce, are they available for the au v8's? would be nice taking off with (when finished) 170+kw and some sticky tyres.

[24CIT]

Originally Posted by slamd ef wagon

gday guys just woundering with u guys that run the jmm3000 what cam did you use as i asked crow and they told me non of there cams would work with a stallie as there power starts at 1500rpm(cams which work with the stock ecu that is)

cheers

i'm running a 5000 TCI converter and i had a custom ground cam made by crow cams. though my cam is for a turbo appliction.

[galapogos01]

ok, sounds like im going to ring TCI then.

im guessing $200-$300 is about normal for a fitting price? given its normally $100ish for a service, and that doesnt involve dropping the trans!

TCE ones go for ~$400 iirc.

[slamd ef wagon]

i spoke to 2 of adelaides best trans places mv automatics and alltorque converters and they both said the same u cant gor past 2300 2400rpm other wise the limp home mode becomes a problem

[dansedgli]

Originally Posted by 24CIT

i'm running a 5000 TCI converter and i had a custom ground cam made by crow cams. though my cam is for a turbo appliction.

5000?? Thats a bit high isnt it?

I had a 2500 TCE one in my Turbo AU. It worked fairly well.