Mustang Mach E for Austraila

[Fordman]

As someone across Fords global models it feels like the Mach-E has been around for ages.

Meanwhile Europe have an Explorer EV hot off the press.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Not to mention they bring another product to market with no indication of pricing.

Why release info so far out when you know people will want to sign up, yet cant give them a price.

I just received an email from my dealer and you have to ORDER directly through Ford if you want one.

"Please note our dealership will be unable to place you in a queue for a vehicle, and you'll need to register via Ford's reservation system on Ford.com.au."

It’s to protect against currency fluctuations.

Originally Posted by DJM83

That thing has a head like a dog chewing a wasp.
Ford tarting out the Mustang name is how ive seen it. Dont care how capable it is.
Challenger Demon thread is way betterer.

It could be worse, it could be a fish mouthed hunch back smoothed off turd like a Tossler. Why don’t they all just make EV’s look like real cars, and not trying so hard to look different that they just end up looking pig dog ugly?

At least the mach e looks more like a traditional car. It looks pretty reasonable in the metal, but it’s nowhere near as good looking as a regular mustang.

It does have an interesting spaceship sound when you reverse it though. It’s kinda funny.

[lra]

Originally Posted by kypez

Why slow it down?!

In all practicality and seriousness ....
how quick do you need to get to the next set of lights in the city,
what is the highest speed you can drive at (legally without getting a ticket) on regional roads,
and I will race you at any time between Syd > Bris, or Syd > Melb, with you in your electric whatever and me in my 13 year old Territory.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by lra

In all practicality and seriousness ....

how quick do you need to get to the next set of lights in the city,

what is the highest speed you can drive at (legally without getting a ticket) on regional roads,

and I will race you at any time between Syd > Bris, or Syd > Melb, with you in your electric whatever and me in my 13 year old Territory.

Well, you were the one who wanted a V8 or Barra.

To be fair, if I was driving a 13 year old Territory, I'd want the trip to be over as soon as possible too. (only joking, hope you have a sense of humour).

It's fun driving fast cars. And last year, when a P plater ran a red light and my 39 weeks pregnant wife and I were in the car, having the power on tap allowed me to floor it to avoid getting T boned. That power saved maybe mine and my wife/unborn child that night.

I've made this post public so you can see it. The Miami nor my Barra nor Coyote would've responded fast enough.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...ibextid=Nif5oz

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by kypez

Well, you were the one who wanted a V8 or Barra.

To be fair, if I was driving a 13 year old Territory, I'd want the trip to be over as soon as possible too. (only joking, hope you have a sense of humour).

It's fun driving fast cars. And last year, when a P plater ran a red light and my 39 weeks pregnant wife and I were in the car, having the power on tap allowed me to floor it to avoid getting T boned. That power saved maybe mine and my wife/unborn child that night.

I've made this post public so you can see it. The Miami nor my Barra nor Coyote would've responded fast enough.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...ibextid=Nif5oz

I've always said if you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by GasoLane

I've always said if you drive fast enough you're past the accident before it happens

Same but apparently mine was too fast according to Victoria Police

[MITCHAY]

I'll be ****ed why they slap a Mustang badge on this. If it were a proper Mustang I'd get it but wow.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'll be ****ed why they slap a Mustang badge on this. If it were a proper Mustang I'd get it but wow.

Don't worry, they even have two different vehicles with the same name, sold in the same market (Ford Explorer and the Ford Explorer).

Also given this thing is an EV this should be merged with the thread in the alternative power section.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'll be ****ed why they slap a Mustang badge on this. If it were a proper Mustang I'd get it but wow.

Emissions standards in the US. Average fleet emissions. It allows for the V8 to exist longer. The same reason GM wants to do a Corvette EV SUV.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I'll be ****ed why they slap a Mustang badge on this. If it were a proper Mustang I'd get it but wow.

They had to because so much money was spent saving this once off course e-Max,
Ford is doing it again with VW based BEV Explorer and companion Capri crossover.

The big issue with Mach E is that they just can’t build enough at the Mexican plant
to cover America and Europe while the plant production in China is just a joke.
Chinese buyers have voted with their wallets and bought Tesla Y……..

[DFB FGXR6]

Not questioning the need for this car, and do believe that it's a fantastic car overall, I just wish they left the Mustang name off it.

I know why they did it, but the Mustang has always had a very specific identity, a big, long bonnet coupe or convertible. Putting the name on something completely different does the real one a disservice.

Think of it this way, Porche styled a 911 influenced four-door sedan, but they didn't dare name it one! In the process, they didn't dilute the 911 heritage.

Right from the beginning, I always thought "Galaxy" or Galaxy Mach E would have been more appropriate.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Not questioning the need for this car, and do believe that it's a fantastic car overall, I just wish they left the Mustang name off it.



I know why they did it, but the Mustang has always had a very specific identity, a big, long bonnet coupe or convertible. Putting the name on something completely different does the real one a disservice.



Think of it this way, Porche styled a 911 influenced four-door sedan, but they didn't dare name it one! In the process, they didn't dilute the 911 heritage.



Right from the beginning, I always thought "Galaxy" or Galaxy Mach E would have been more appropriate.

Then they'd have to rename the regular Mustang as Galaxy.

The 911 uses a lot less fuel and are going hybrid. If Mustang went hybrid, they probably wouldn't need the Mach E. But that idea is dead.

The Challenger had to go EV because they didn't have a nameplate EV.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

Not questioning the need for this car, and do believe that it's a fantastic car overall, I just wish they left the Mustang name off it.

I know why they did it, but the Mustang has always had a very specific identity, a big, long bonnet coupe or convertible. Putting the name on something completely different does the real one a disservice.

Think of it this way, Porche styled a 911 influenced four-door sedan, but they didn't dare name it one! In the process, they didn't dilute the 911 heritage.

Right from the beginning, I always thought "Galaxy" or Galaxy Mach E would have been more appropriate.

The original project was transferring electrical systems from Focus EV to a new E-Max
the money Ford spent rescuing the thing turned it into more of a Tesla Y competitor.

So yeah, Ford is now selling out its storied nameplates to ensure the new BEVs succeed
using a name like Galaxy would not have worked 1) because it’s Galaxie in USA and
2) Galaxy in Europe is a large 3-row mini van. They needed a family name that was recognisable
and jumping on Mustang was all too easy.

The approval to use Mustang came down to Bill Ford (his name on the company) and continued with Explorer and Capri.

[bungarra]

Originally Posted by Wretched

Erm, that's because the BMW i7 Protection model isn't yet available. Once it is is I am sure an order will be placed for one.
But by all means keep the tin foil hat on for your own protection.

Originally Posted by EBSXR6

I wouldn't waste the electricity or my time.

The i7 will be released in October 2023, pre orders already in for many governments in EU countries and some Asian countries. Australia have no orders in at present and not expected until end of current lease period in 2025.

[myrpo]

Originally Posted by CyberWasp

Was there any input from Ford Australia on this vehicle?
Just curious to know.

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Can't understand why manufacturers persist with this look of an iPad mounted on a magnetic mount is attractive Even Tesla's look is a bit clueless. You would think with car designers imagination, endless amounts of beautiful or classic lines to work with, something more than the current crap could be offered.

This looks like some home baked half assed effort.

[lra]

Originally Posted by myrpo

Can't understand why manufacturers persist with this look of an iPad mounted on a magnetic mount is attractive .

Someone thinks it looks good, and a higher-up someone approved it.
My opinion is that it is ugly and distracting, but it is the 'fashion' and common to a lot of current cars. Unfortunately.

[GasoLane]

Originally Posted by lra

Someone thinks it looks good, and a higher-up someone approved it.
My opinion is that it is ugly and distracting, but it is the 'fashion' and common to a lot of current cars. Unfortunately.

Easy answer. If you plonk a big screen on a post sticking out from the dash it's much cheaper than redesigning the dash for every model....even if it does look like an afterthought.

[myrpo]

Then perhaps they can ponder why their product which is pretty much a mirror to the cheaper competitor doesn't sell.

Guess some of the hassle is whatever someone creates that is new or exciting, China just rip it off. Then if you challenge China over it they get offended.

[kypez]

Who wants to go back to small screens and carrying a SydWay or MelWay or UBD. I want a big screen with maps clearly visible. Bugger those small screen. They are obsolete. Even my GTF has a big screen for the time. My BA screen looks tiny compared to it and useless as you need to move your eyes off the road to see it. Bigger screens are in your line of sight and are safer.

[kevino]

Originally Posted by kypez

Who wants to go back to small screens and carrying a SydWay or MelWay or UBD. I want a big screen with maps clearly visible. Bugger those small screen. They are obsolete. Even my GTF has a big screen for the time. My BA screen looks tiny compared to it and useless as you need to move your eyes off the road to see it. Bigger screens are in your line of sight and are safer.

Can you turn them off at night?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by kevino

Can you turn them off at night?

Ah yes, this was a bug bear for a bit. Depends on the brand, many can be turned off. Others can be dimmed.

[Dr Smith]

Prices are out:
https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-f...ice-and-specs/
The 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E is due in Australian showrooms between October and December 2023, pending any delays.

2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Australian pricing
Mustang Mach-E Select – $79,990
Mustang Mach-E Premium – $92,990
Mustang Mach-E GT – $108,990
Note: All prices above exclude on-road costs.

2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select standard features:
198kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 71kWh lithium iron phosphate battery
19-inch alloy wheels
Reflector LED headlights (expected)
Panoramic glass sunroof
15.5-inch Sync 4A infotainment touchscreen
Satellite navigation
10.2-inch digital instrument cluster
Black 'Sensico' synthetic leather-look upholstery
Eight-way power-adjustable front seats
10-speaker B&O sound system
Wireless smartphone charging pad
360-degree camera
E-Latch electronic door handles
Active, Whisper or Untame drive modes
One-pedal driving function
FordPass Connect app functionality

2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium adds (over Select):
216kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 91kWh lithium-ion battery
Projector LED headlights
Red contrast stitching
Black headlining
Multi-colour ambient interior lighting
"Premium-finish" sill plates and pedals


2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT adds (over Premium):
Dual electric motors (358kW/860Nm combined) and 91kWh lithium-ion battery
MagneRide adaptive suspension
'Untamed Plus' performance drive mode
Brembo Flexira high-performance front brakes
20-inch alloy wheels with Pirelli tyres
Ford Performance front sports seats with "soft-touch leather-like" trim
Prestige paint costs $700 extra. The list of colours available is yet to be published.

[Polyal]

It is not a pretty car but good to see Ford in the fight, im not an early adopter so I look forward to the increased competition.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Polyal

It is not a pretty car but good to see Ford in the fight, im not an early adopter so I look forward to the increased competition.

Looks a lot better in person.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Dr Smith

Prices are out:

https://www.drive.com.au/news/2024-f...ice-and-specs/

The 2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E is due in Australian showrooms between October and December 2023, pending any delays.



2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Australian pricing

Mustang Mach-E Select – $79,990

Mustang Mach-E Premium – $92,990

Mustang Mach-E GT – $108,990

Note: All prices above exclude on-road costs.



2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Select standard features:

198kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 71kWh lithium iron phosphate battery

19-inch alloy wheels

Reflector LED headlights (expected)

Panoramic glass sunroof

15.5-inch Sync 4A infotainment touchscreen

Satellite navigation

10.2-inch digital instrument cluster

Black 'Sensico' synthetic leather-look upholstery

Eight-way power-adjustable front seats

10-speaker B&O sound system

Wireless smartphone charging pad

360-degree camera

E-Latch electronic door handles

Active, Whisper or Untame drive modes

One-pedal driving function

FordPass Connect app functionality



2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E Premium adds (over Select):

216kW/430Nm rear electric motor and 91kWh lithium-ion battery

Projector LED headlights

Red contrast stitching

Black headlining

Multi-colour ambient interior lighting

"Premium-finish" sill plates and pedals





2024 Ford Mustang Mach-E GT adds (over Premium):

Dual electric motors (358kW/860Nm combined) and 91kWh lithium-ion battery

MagneRide adaptive suspension

'Untamed Plus' performance drive mode

Brembo Flexira high-performance front brakes

20-inch alloy wheels with Pirelli tyres

Ford Performance front sports seats with "soft-touch leather-like" trim

Prestige paint costs $700 extra. The list of colours available is yet to be published.

Higher than I had hoped. Guess I'll stick with my Teslas for now. Bigger, faster, better charging network and cheaper. They're about $10k more than the equivalent Tesla. And also more than the Hyundai Ioniq as well.

Hope they succeed though. I would've loved to have one.

[Smoke Pursuit]

Originally Posted by kypez

Higher than I had hoped. Guess I'll stick with my Teslas for now. Bigger, faster, better charging network and cheaper. They're about $10k more than the equivalent Tesla. And also more than the Hyundai Ioniq as well.

Hope they succeed though. I would've loved to have one.

Just with a better infotainment system.



Better car then the Model 3 / Y.

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Smoke Pursuit

Just with a better infotainment system.



Better car then the Model 3 / Y.

Better car in what way though? Teslas are bigger, handle better, drive better, accelerate faster and are built very well these days.

Only reason I'd buy one is because it is a Ford. An emotional reason than purely based on logic of features.

[Charliewool]

What’s “one pedal driving function”?
No brake pedal?
Similar to a Linde hydrostatic forklift?

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Charliewool

What’s “one pedal driving function”?
No brake pedal?
Similar to a Linde hydrostatic forklift?

Yes. The car applies regen instead of the mechanical brakes. Recovers energy that would be lost by braking.

It will bring the car to a complete stop as well so you don't have to press the brake unless in an emergency or if you didn't judge the regen correctly.

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Polyal

It is not a pretty car but good to see Ford in the fight, im not an early adopter so I look forward to the increased competition.

They look ok in the metal. Nowhere near as good looking as a real Mustang though.

But at least it doesn't look like a polished dog turd like the Tesla's do.