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Old 20-09-2011, 01:11 PM   #11
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Default Re: Ford Capped Service - Worthless

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LOL dude actually they do ... they have all the equipment required to fully plug into your Ford/Holden ECU and read whatever faults you might have off it of it. Remember these people tune your Ford/Holden ECUs in the first place … they also got Dyno machines … extensive emissions testing equipment and noise testing as well … some will have laser guides alignment setup and workbenches for building small custom parts that may be required for certain work. Now I’m not saying that all this is required for servicing ones car, but please don’t go about saying that Ford service centre have better equipment … they don’t, full stop!

As for synthetic oil, it has nothing to do with your car being turbo or not LOL … synthetic oil is very very highly recommended for engines with variable valve timing setups (e.g. I6) … it makes sure that all the added complicated engine valve terrain can operate efficiently. Actually all new Japanese cars and just about every EU car specifies for synthetic oil, Ford should as well but they are simply trying to keep the profits in the service higher … (cost of synthetic VS non is about $40 in a retail shop !!! for ford it would be a lot less due to bulk buying)

Right, so the tuner they plug in to do a tune is the same one from the ford factory? Now you're getting desperate. After market tuners are limited to what they can adjust on the PCM, only recently have they been able to reprogram the ZF 6 speed. All ancilliary equipment such as climate control fault codes will not register on non ford scan tools. After market tunes and any other PCM modifying devices will see your warranty voided.

Writing LOL at the end of a comment makes you look like a fool.

As for oil, it has everything to do with being turbo or not. The oil is used to lubricate the turbo and as such is subjected to extremely high temperatures from high EGT's of the turbine and casing. The oil to lubricate the bearing gets subjected to these extreme temperatures, mechanical and chemical loads, which are never seen on an NA engine. A non synthetic oil would simply burn and evaporate under such loads upon entering the turbo, and chemically break down sludging up the galleries and causing failure. The synthetic oil over mineral oil is needed primarily to lubricate the turbo, the rest of the engine lubricated by such oil is secondary bonus to the need for a synthetic.

Tell me where on an NA I6 this will happen (and don't say the cam phasers, they're not extreme high temp).
That's why it's not the manufacturers specification, so don't expect it in the service. I don't denounce peoples desire to run fully synthetic in their engines that's fine, but it is NOT necessary according to manufacturer specifications.
Those unable to even research the basic composition of oil but swear they have to run full synthetic on their NA car have KW envy, and spend an awful lot of money trying to make a stock car go faster with supercheap auto craptastic garbage like K&N and other useless trinkets, unaware that K&N filter oil shortens the life of HEGO sensors; all in the vague hope for an extra 2kw.

Like I said to you before, if you want to run synthetic, then ask for it, don't expect it in the service when it's not listed in the manufacturers service book.

Just for you. LOL.
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